Developing Intuition With Joy Martina

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Katie: Hello, and welcome to the “Valence Mama Podcast.” I am Katie from and, my new line of personal care products that go beyond safe and non-toxins to benefit the body from the outside. This event is the answer to many follow up questions. I have made my own journey in the last two years of working through trauma and losing weight because I am here with someone who was one of those people, Joey Martina. ۔ Dr. Joey Martina is a psychologist and the founder of the Joffel Kids program. And I found it first and started working with it because it also has a program called Sleep Your Fat Away. And I thought if I had the prescription that I just lost weight or had a certain size, then I would be happy. And that’s what gave me so much mental energy for so long. And through the last two years of working with him and my inner workings, I felt it was just a symbol, but his work was important to me at the beginning of the process. And let’s start with a lot of these layers. And what she does helps people sit deep, keep beliefs in their head, and change really quickly and easily. And we go through some of the ways that they do in this episode, from things like learning to ask the best questions, which they explain in detail, to simple switches, which is a way in which you Can be used immediately. Refresh and refresh your state of mind. And we can even start giving our children the tools from the beginning to live a quiet, happy life and to work through emotions. We can give them tools and hopefully never get stuck in these patterns.

So, as I said, Dr. Joy has been part of my journey through trauma and weight loss over the past two years. I have received so many follow-up questions about this incident that he is able to answer some of these questions in today’s episode. So this is something you can take advantage of, I think you will really enjoy it as much as I enjoy talking happily. Hello, welcome, thanks for coming here.

Happiness: Well, I’m very happy to be here with you.

Katie: I knew I had to keep you here and talk to you because I’ve shared a little bit about my journey over the last two years and asked a lot of follow-up questions that I knew I had. People had to be brought. Who were part of that journey for me, and of course you. I want to go a little further in my journey that people have heard some parts of it. But to begin with, I want to tell you a little bit about my story and what you do for those who are unfamiliar with you.

Happiness: So my name is Happiness, and for a lot of people it means that, you know, it will always be easier for me to be happy and joyful. And, you know, most of the time I’m really am, but it was still a long way to go because I was more depressed, and overwhelmed, and frustrated before I was, and The treadmill felt different. Really discover that the name was in a way a gift to me too. So finding your happiness has been a really exciting journey. And, you know, I’m still spreading it because there’s no limit to happiness. It has been a part of this path, you know, helping other people find happiness, because I think, you know, we know the rules and things we have the right to follow our own happiness. But that doesn’t mean we have to find happiness. And, you know, there’s a difference between happiness and joy.

So it’s been a big part of my life and I’m really happy that I can learn now, you know, take what I’ve learned and the different things I’ve read on different levels and I make things like that so easy. Even babies get it, and babies can get it in less than five minutes. So I’m glad I’m here with you and sharing all the best we have, you know, what do you do when you feel less than happy? And if we look at the planet now, we have a lot going on. Our suicide rate is skyrocketing. Our pressure rate is going through the roof. We have, you know, a lot of uncertainty. There is a lot of fear. So I think that’s really a timely topic.

Katie: I agree. And there are a lot of things that I think we need to get into today. And to be a little weaker for those who may not have heard the whole part of my story, I’ve lost over 80 pounds in the last few years, which I thought I had that thing. Is what i need most And this has been the siege of my life for the last 10 years. And then in doing so I realized that it was actually a sign of what I really needed. And you were part of that journey for me. You have a system designed to help people lose weight. And I thought, this is what I need, and this is what will solve my problems. And it had a lot of influence, but what I felt through my work and through my work was that the real thing was actually dealing with internal trauma and insecurities and things inside me. , And that being overweight was just an outward manifestation.

And I especially remember the first time we talked and you did it to me, I think you called it a switch and then you repeated it to me later. And you forced me to say something, it was something that made me upset, though, etc., I love and respect myself and my voice broke and I said those words. It didn’t even come out of my mouth and I was surprised to go, “Ah. Wow. Why does it feel like that? And why does it feel so bad? And why is it bringing all these emotions to the fore? And it really made me Challenged in a tremendous way and then through it we were able to work through tasks like self-limiting confusion and beliefs, self-judgment and a lot of other things. I’m interested in you learning some of these techniques. How do you do that? I want to go through a couple of these with people, but how do you find them?

Happiness: Well, you know, since I said 18 years old and I was able to own my own money, I spent all the extra cash I had. And it wasn’t much because I was still studying funky courses like this, whether it was hypnosis or homeopathy, or I don’t know, to find water in the ground; I did a lot of different trainings. Didn’t know what I was really looking for? I thought I was looking for happiness. I thought I was looking for ways to help myself, but what I was really doing was training my intuition. As you can see, we cannot be happy if we are not adapted to our intuitive tactics, because when we are not adapted to our insights, we are usually lost, sort of confused, a little depressed, usually But those who work on themselves feel. -Able. We don’t really love ourselves.

So I like how you said that. You know, you thought about all this weight, but once we got on this journey you realized, “Wow, this weight is so much more than just body fat.” This, you know, as you were saying, limits your beliefs about yourself. That’s the decent thing to do, and it should end there. And I think what we’re doing right now is that we’re all reawakening to the fact that yes, we can, we can. And if we are all the same and we all come from the same source, whatever name you want to give, we all have the right and ability to reconnect with it, what is it, our full potential Or whatever name you want to give it. And I like that you’re talking in the podcast that you’re presenting these predictions, we might be able to talk about that and say, “Listen, it’s not that much.” Intuition is not Wu Wu. This is actually your superior intelligence, right? And if you want to adapt to this highest intelligence, you have to follow some simple steps to find this peace in yourself again and be able to hear this subtle voice. And the way we usually run on our little hamster wheels, we’re doing nothing but stop and listen. Wouldn’t you agree?

Katie: Absolutely. Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me, Looks like BT aint for me either. How can we learn to cradle it further? Because I think it’s a bit of a distraction from things in human nature that we can’t easily appreciate or look at in a concrete way. And I think intuition is one of them that is hard to explain or hard to feel. We can certainly mention the times when we felt something and then it lined up, but it seems to me that most people have probably never consciously tried to improve their intuition. Or it may be that it is possible. So where do we start?

Happiness: Or do you even know what it is, right? So if we say it’s interpreted as high intelligence, well, people like Albert Einstein say, then we can say, “OK. So how do we get this intuitive hit? We just How can you know? Because intuition is just knowing without conscious reasoning. It doesn’t come from experience, it only comes from knowing. You know all of a sudden. And then it’s very difficult to explain, “Well, this How does the knower come to me? “So when I was listening to you, I saw that you have felt the word many times, right? So it only gave me insight because of all the training that I did. What is in psychology and whatever it is, is that you are an ethnic person, so you will have a feeling as the most likely way to achieve your intuitive success, but this is not true for everyone. In the auditory type of it will probably be more than a voice in the head in a kind of message, it comes in the form of more listening to know, right? But then we have visual people, for example , For whom insight is saying, “I just saw it.” You know? “I could see it all of a sudden.”

So part of what I do in my intuition training is that these different channels of information that we have can also be explained because intuition is another stream of information. It is a series of information coming from our higher knowledge. So it is coming from a pure source and it is accessible to each of us. So, you know, a 3-year-old can have the same intuitive hit as a 93-year-old. So it doesn’t matter what age you are, what cultural background you come from. This is something we all have.

So the question is, how do I keep it in me? And the first one is very simple, it’s out of chaos. It’s coming out of this constant state of hyperconnection that we have, from social media, I don’t know, radio, our environment, our family, messages from like-minded colleagues. We are so preoccupied with everything that goes on that we forget to tell who we are and what we want. I can’t tell you how much I’ve talked to women in all the coaching, especially when I ask them, “Well, what do you want?” And they’re like, “What? Desire? We can probably talk about goals, but Desire, which feels so intimate, that feels so weak. And who am I that even my desires?” I also know, “And whatever, right? And they want it. So once we get to different stages, like first we get out of the buzz, but then we realize that if we want to get out of the buzz, we don’t have to say anything. We don’t have to ask for appointments. We don’t have to say anything on our phone and we’ll leave. And to say no, again, is something that many of us struggle with. And we didn’t learn that “no, thank you” is a complete sentence.

So the second step, I say, is not by grace because it is possible. And then once we haven’t talked and we’ve learned to set boundaries, we take our place so that we can really adapt to the intuitive trend. Then I think a big part of helping people is forgiving and happily releasing. I think a lot of us are being made to think that quitting is a difficult thing, it’s something that is expensive. And, you know, specifically saying, “I’m working on my own and I had to do all these things,” it usually happens; it hurts a lot, maybe and, you know. Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me, Looks like BT aint for me either. But I don’t think that’s true because once we succeed, once we learn the lessons, why do we have to go through all the stuff of who we are today, it can be a really happy process.

So I share a lot of tools, and resources, and in the resources section of my book, because I wanted it all to really come in handy so that you know the top five tools to help you once and for all. ۔ Has trained So once we are forgiven and we are happily left behind, we reach this juicy part of owning our desires. This is where we step into the full power of self-creation. So think second cycle, think; sexual energy too. Creative energy must come first within us. We need to be able to say, “What do I want in life? What does my heart want? And once we have done that, then the first step is in the call universe. Then you You can really train your brain to be the sender and receiver of the specific frequency you want to tune in. So not necessarily, I don’t know, swallowing, complaining, and hypochondriac, but you may Like to hear official news. Maybe you want to discuss what your life’s mission is or what you want is the legacy of this planet. Lots of fun things to do. And here are five steps each. It’s really easy, I think, because I’ve spread it out in a way that with every step, there’s a device, there’s an insight. And yes, that’s not rocket science. , But it can change your life.

Katie: I want to touch on a lot of points there. میرے خیال میں خواہش اور خواہش کا خیال بھی ایک اہم چیز ہے ، کیوں کہ اکثر کم از کم اندرونی طور پر دیکھا جائے تو مجھے لگتا ہے کہ ان چیزوں کی نشاندہی کرنا آسان ہوسکتا ہے جو ہم پسند نہیں کرتے ہیں ، یا ہم نہیں چاہتے ہیں ، یا وہ ہیں مسائل ، خاص طور پر خواتین کی طرح۔ لیکن جب یہ سوال پوچھا گیا کہ آپ واقعتا کیا چاہتے ہیں؟ تم کیا چاہتے ہو؟ اس نے مجھے لوپ کے ل thre پھینک دیا۔ اور میں نسبتا goal گول پر مبنی ہوں اور میں ابھی بھی ایسا ہی تھا ، “کیا؟ میں نہیں جانتا.” مجھ سے پہلے یہ سوال کسی نے نہیں کیا۔ یا شاید یہ ہے کہ ہم ، خاص طور پر ، ماں کی حیثیت سے ، شاید ہر ایک کی ضروریات کی طرف مائل ہوں کہ اس عینک کو اندر پھیرنا مشکل ہو جائے گا۔ کیا آپ کے پاس سننے والے کسی کے ل any کوئ صلاح ہے جس کو شاید وہی تجربہ ہوسکتا ہے جو میں نے کیا تھا ، یہاں تک کہ واقعتا یہ بھی نہیں جانتا تھا کہ ہم کیا چاہتے ہیں اس کا پتہ لگائیں۔

خوشی: ہاں میں ایک بااختیار سوال پوچھوں گا۔ اور یہ اتنا آسان بھی ہوسکتا ہے کہ ، “میرے لئے یہ جاننا اتنا آسان کیوں ہے کہ میں کیا چاہتا ہوں؟ میرے لئے اپنی خواہشات کو پورا کرنا اور ان کو پورا کرنا اتنا آسان کیوں ہے؟ میرے لئے یہ جاننا اتنا محفوظ کیوں ہے کہ میں کیا چاہتا ہوں؟ “ آپ جانتے ہو ، آپ اس کے ساتھ کھیل سکتے ہیں ، لیکن آپ اس کے بجائے ایک بااختیار سوال پوچھنا چاہتے ہیں ، “ممکنہ طور پر کیا غلطی ہوسکتی ہے؟” ٹھیک ہے؟ تو ہم جو کر رہے ہیں اس کے برعکس ہے۔ ایک بااختیار سوال پوچھ کر ، آپ اپنے دماغ کو جوابات دے رہے ہیں۔ لہذا میں یہ کہتے ہوئے دن بھر بااختیار بنانے کے سوالات کرنا پسند کرتا ہوں کہ ، “میں اس کمرے کا سب سے خوش قسمت شخص کیوں ہوں؟ میرے لئے پرسکون رہنا اتنا آسان کیوں ہے؟ ٹھیک ہے؟ جو بھی ہے ، جب آپ اس طرح اس کا فقدان کرتے ہیں تو ، آپ کا دماغ آپ کے جوابات لے کر آئے گا۔

اور جتنے زیادہ جوابات آپ کو ملیں گے ، اسی قدر امکان کے مطابق ہوجائیں گے۔ اور یہی ہے جس میں ہم رکنا چاہتے ہیں۔ ہم یہ یقینی بنانا چاہتے ہیں کہ ہماری اپنی کمپن زیادہ سے زیادہ بلند ہو ، ہم مثبت ہیں کہ ہم ایک… میں ہمیشہ اچھے موڈ میں نہیں ہوتے ، بلکہ ہم شکر گزار محسوس کرتے ہیں ، کم از کم ، کیونکہ ایک بار ہم اپنی تبدیلی لاتے ہیں اپنی توانائی ، جس طرح سے ہم دنیا سے گزرتے ہیں ، لفظ کے بارے میں ہمارا رویہ ، ہماری عینک تبدیل ہوتی ہے ، ہماری فریکوینسی تبدیل ہوتی ہے۔ اور پھر وہ لوگ بھی جو ہم تبدیلی کو راغب کرتے ہیں۔ لہذا حالات بدل جاتے ہیں ، ہم آہنگی ہونے لگتی ہے۔ تو واقعی ، زندگی میں ہمارا بنیادی کام یہ یقینی بنانا ہے کہ ہم واقعی اپنی دیکھ بھال کررہے ہیں تاکہ ہم دوسروں کی دیکھ بھال کرسکیں۔

کیٹی: مجھے لگتا ہے کہ یہ سادہ سی حد سے تجاوز کرنا ضروری ہے۔ اور میں نے اس بات کا اندازہ نہیں کیا کہ اس وقت تک کتنا گہرا ہوگا جب تک میں نے خود کو اس شفٹ بنانا شروع نہیں کیا۔ میں نے اپنے سفر میں ہی محسوس کیا کہ میں ان سوالوں کی منفی شکل سے اتنے عرصے سے پوچھ رہا ہوں کہ یہ قریب قریب ہی رہ گیا تھا۔ اور مجھے اپنے دماغ اور اپنی نفسیات کی طرح محسوس ہوتا ہے ، وہ ہماری حفاظت کے لئے موجود ہیں۔ اور اسی طرح میں پوچھ رہا تھا ، “ٹھیک ہے ، میں اپنا وزن کیوں نہیں کم کر سکتا ، اور میں اس وقت ایسی ناکامی کیوں کر رہا ہوں؟” اور واقعی میں جواب مل رہا تھا ، “ٹھیک ہے ، مجھے آپ نے جو سوال پوچھا اس کی تمام وجوہات بتاؤں۔” اور جس طرح سے ہم اپنی توجہ مرکوز کرنے کا انتخاب کرتے ہیں اس طرح کی تبدیلی ، یہ میرے لئے سخت بات تھی کہ اس کا جلدی سے کتنا گہرا اثر پڑا۔ اور کیا آپ لوگوں کے ساتھ ملتے ہیں جو اکثر ان سوالات سے واقف ہوجانا اور پھر اس ہوش میں بدلاؤ پیدا کرنا اتنا آسان ہوسکتا ہے؟

خوشی: میں کہوں گا ، آپ جانتے ہو ، کیٹی ، 90٪ آگہی ہے۔ ایک بار جب ہمیں معلوم ہوجائے کہ کیا ہو رہا ہے ، ہم کیا کر رہے ہیں تو ، یہ واقعی اتنا ہی آسان ہے جتنا صرف ایک سانس لینا اور ری فریم کرنا۔ تو ، ہاں ، میں کہوں گا بیداری آپ کو بیشتر راستے پر لے جاتی ہے۔ یہ تو بس کر رہا ہے۔ یہ آخری بات ہے ، لیکن یہ حقیقت میں زیادہ سے زیادہ صرف 10٪ ، 20٪ ہے۔ سب سے پہلے نیت اور بیداری ہے.

کیٹی: ہاں۔ بالکل ٹھیک میرے خیال میں دوسرا میرے پاس تھا ، جو چیز میرے پاس ہمیشہ رہتی تھی وہ تھی ، “اوہ ، کاش ،” جو بھی چیز تھی ، “تب میں خوش ہوں گا۔ اگر صرف میرا وزن کم ہوجائے تو خوشی ہوگی۔ اور یہ احساس کرنے سے باز آ گیا تھا ، “یا میں ابھی خوش رہنا اور خود کو ابھی قبول کرنے کا انتخاب کر سکتا ہوں۔” اور ستم ظریفی یہ تھی کہ جب تبدیلی واقع ہوئی ، باقی سب کچھ جو میں نے سوچا تھا کہ وہ اتنا آسان ہو گیا تھا۔ لیکن یہ ایک مقصد کے مقابلے میں نتیجہ بن گیا۔

خوشی: خوبصورت۔ خوبصورت۔

کیٹی: تو آپ نے بھی معافی کا ذکر کیا۔ اور میرے خیال میں یہ ایک اہم ہے۔ اور خاص طور پر ابھی ، آپ نے بتایا کہ دنیا اتنی غیر یقینی ہے اور تناؤ اتنا زیادہ ہے۔ اور مجھے ایسے حالت میں لوگ ملتے ہیں ، جن سے آپ سب سے زیادہ پیار کرتے ہو یا آن لائن لوگوں سے ناراض اور قلیل مزاج آنا آسان ہے ، یا ماضی سے ایسی چیزیں رکھنا جن کا سر معاف نہیں ہوتا ہے اور پھر سے پریشانی بن جاتا ہے۔ اور مجھے پیار ہے کہ آپ کہتے ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، معافی کیوں مشکل ہے؟ یہ آسان کیوں نہیں ہوسکتا؟ لیکن مجھے لگتا ہے کہ یہ ایسی چیز ہے جس کے ساتھ بہت سارے لوگ جدوجہد کرتے ہیں۔ اور اپنے ہی سفر سے ، میں جانتا ہوں کہ میں یہ کہہ سکتا ہوں کہ میں نے اپنے ماضی میں جنسی صدمے سے دوچار کیا تھا ، یہ ایک مشکل چیز تھی… یا مجھے ایسا لگتا تھا کہ جب تک میں یہ نہ کروں اس کو معاف کرنا مشکل چیز ہے۔ آپ لوگوں کو معافی کی جگہ کی طرف بڑھنے میں کس طرح مدد کرتے ہیں ، خاص طور پر جب ایسی بہت سی قابل چیز ہوتی ہے جسے وہ معاف کرنے کے لئے جدوجہد کرتے ہیں؟

خوشی: بالکل۔ اور یہ ہے. میں ، خود ، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ اسی وجہ سے میں اب معافی کا ماہر ہوں کیوں کہ میں نے خود کئی سال جدوجہد کی۔ اس بات کا احساس میرے لئے کیا ہوا کہ جب میں معاف نہیں کرتا ہوں تو ، میں عام طور پر کسی حد تک غصے اور ناراضگی کی حالت میں رہتا ہوں ، یہاں تک کہ اگر میں نے اسے جتنا بھی دبا دیا ، ٹھیک ہے؟ اور یہ غصہ ایک توانائی ہے ، میرے جسم میں ایک تعدد جو مجھے سب سے زیادہ نقصان پہنچا رہی ہے۔ اتنا سمجھتے ہوئے کہ جس کو میں سب سے زیادہ تکلیف دے رہا ہوں وہ مجھے معاف نہیں کرتے ہوئے ، مجھے فیصلہ کرنے پر مجبور کیا ، “ٹھیک ہے۔ مجھے یہ تبدیل کرنا ہوگا۔ مجھے صرف اس کے بارے میں کچھ کرنا چھوڑنا ہے۔ اس کو اپنے دماغ میں صرف ذہنی گفتگو کے طور پر رکھنے کے بجائے ، جو ہم جانتے ہیں کہ ہمیں خرگوش کے سوراخوں کا ایک جھنڈا اتار سکتا ہے ، مجھے اس کو عملی جامہ پہنانے کی ضرورت ہے۔ لہذا مجھے رسم کی طاقت ، یہ سب کچھ ایک خط میں لکھنے کی رسم ہے جو آپ کبھی نہیں بھیجتے ہیں اور نہ ہی جلا دیتے ہیں ، بہت طاقت ور ہے ، لیکن آپ کو اسے اپنے نظام سے ہٹانے کے لئے مل گیا ہے۔

غم و غصے کے ل a پلے لسٹ بنانے کا رسم ، غم کے ل a پلے لسٹ ، اور واقعی گانے ، جو آپ کو ٹک رہے ہیں اور پھر ہر جذبات کو واقعی جسم میں منتقل کرنے کے ل three تین منٹ لگتے ہیں۔ ذرا تصور کریں کہ آپ یہ 2 سالہ چھوٹا بچہ ہو اور آپ کا کوئی رنج ہے۔ آپ نے اپنے میوزک کو پورے زور سے دھماکے سے دوچار کردیا ، کسی محفوظ کمرے میں چلے گئے ، مثال کے طور پر ایک بہن ، اور اس سے بھی زیادہ طاقتور ، ایک بہن ، کو آپ کے ساتھ شامل ہونے کے ل. ، اور پھر اس توانائی کو اپنے سانس کے ذریعہ اپنے جسم میں منتقل کریں۔ جب تک آپ محفوظ رہیں آپ کچھ بھی کرسکتے ہیں۔ لہذا کچھ کشنوں کو گھونسیں ، زمین پر گھومیں ، لیکن اسے باہر نکالیں ، خاص کر خواتین کی حیثیت سے ، لیکن میں واقعتا really کہوں گا ، مرد بھی۔ یہ جذبات ، وہ جسمانی احساسات ہیں جو ہمارے جسم میں پائے جاتے ہیں۔ لہذا جسمانی عمل کے ساتھ جسمانی احساس کو چھوڑنا بہت آسان ہے۔ اس طرح ایک طرح کا سیشن کرنا ، ایک ریلیز سیشن بہت مددگار ہے۔

تیسری چیز جو میں کروں گی وہ ہے اس شخص کو بھیجنا کہ آپ کو ایک خطِ احسان معاف کرنے کی ضرورت ہے۔ اور میں جانتا ہوں کہ یہ پہلا کام نہیں ہوگا جو آپ کرنا چاہتے ہیں ، لیکن یہ پہلا قدم ہوگا۔ آپ اس کے لئے تیار ہوں گے کیونکہ آپ کو اندازہ ہوگا کہ وہ شخص دراصل ایک استاد تھا جس کی آپ نے کبھی ادائیگی نہیں کی تھی ، لیکن یہ کہ آپ کو ایک خاص سبق سیکھنے کی ذمہ داری سونپی گئی ہے۔ اس نے یقینا for آپ کو مضبوط بنایا ، یا اس نے آپ کو آپ سے کہیں زیادہ طاقت ور بنایا۔ تو اس سبق کو ڈھونڈیں اور دیکھیں کہ واقعتا good اچھا کیا ہوا حالانکہ اس واقعہ کا ماضی کا واقعہ حیرت انگیز تکلیف دہ تھا ، غالبا most۔ اور پھر جب آپ یہ ڈھونڈ سکتے ہیں تو ، کوئی ایسی چیز تلاش کریں جس کی آپ دوسرے شخص کے بارے میں تعریف کرسکیں۔ اس شخص میں کچھ ، ہمیشہ ، ہمیشہ ، کچھ خوبصورت ہوتا ہے ، جس کے لئے آپ ان کے مشکور ہوں۔ اور پھر ہوسکتا ہے کہ وہ انہیں خط لکھیں ، انہیں تحفہ بھیجیں۔ آپ یہ دیکھے بغیر بھی کہ ان کے پاس یہ تحفہ بھیجا جاسکتا ہے کہ یہ کس کے پاس ہے ، لیکن اگر آپ اس پر مہر لگاتے ہیں تو یہ اور بھی طاقتور ہے۔ ان کو شکریہ ظاہر کرنے کے لئے کچھ بھیجیں اور پھر اس کے ساتھ کیا جائے۔

اگلی بار جب آپ اپنے آپ کو اس شخص یا الزام تراشی کے بارے میں خیالات کے منفی چکروں میں جاتے ہوئے دیکھیں گے ، تو آپ جانتے ہو گے ، “اوہ ، سب اس کی وجہ سے ہے ،” اس ذمہ داری کا واپس دعویٰ کریں ، وہ تبدیل کریں۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، آپ کو سوئچ کا آلہ مل جائے گا۔ یہ مثال کے طور پر ، ہمارے یوٹیوب چینل پر کراٹے کاٹ کی طرح ہے۔ یہ مفت ہے. ٹھیک ہے؟ اور پھر اس عادت کو منفی سوچنے اور ماضی میں واپس جانے کے ل something کچھ کرنے کے ل realize اور سمجھو کہ آپ صرف… ان بھاری کینچی کو پکڑنے اور ان تمام لنکس کو کاٹنے اور یہ کہتے ہوئے سوچ سکتے ہو کہ ، “تم جانتے ہو ، میں نے کیا کیا؟ ماضی ماضی کا ہے۔ میں یہاں اور ابھی ہوں اور صرف محبت ہی ہم سے جڑ سکتی ہے۔ یہی منتر ہے جسے میں ہمیشہ استعمال کرتا ہوں۔

تو معافی کا منتر ، شاید ہمارے پاس اس کا اشتراک کرنے کا وقت ہو۔ اگر آپ چاہتے تو آپ اسے لکھ سکتے ہیں۔ کسی محفوظ جگہ پر رہنے کا تصور کریں ، اپنے دل سے جڑیں ، وہاں جانے کے لئے جو بھی کرنا پڑتا ہے وہ کریں۔

اور پھر تصور کریں کہ اس دوسرے شخص کو آنکھوں میں دیکھیں اور پھر کہیں ، “میں اپنی طاقت کا دعویٰ کرتا ہوں۔” اور ایک سانس لیں۔ اور پھر آپ کہتے ہیں ، “میں آپ کو آپ کی طاقت واپس کردوں گا۔ میں اپنی آزادی کا دعوی کرتا ہوں۔ ایک اور سانس لیں۔ اور پھر آپ کہتے ہیں ، “میں آپ کو اپنی آزادی واپس دیتا ہوں۔” اور پھر آپ کہتے ہیں ، “ماضی ماضی میں رہتا ہے۔ میں نے آپ کو میری تمام تکلیف اور تکلیفوں کے سبب سے معاف کر دیا ہے۔ صرف محبت ہی ہم سے جڑ سکتی ہے۔ میں آپ کی خواہش کرتا ہوں ، بالکل ویسے ہی جیسے میں بھی اپنی خواہش رکھتا ہوں۔ ” اور پھر ان ڈوروں کو توڑنے ، انہیں جلانے ، انہیں کاٹنے اور اپنے آپ سے اپنے آپ سے جوڑنے کا تصور کریں۔ اور یہ کور خوبصورت ہے۔ یہ محبت سے بھرا ہوا ہے اور وہ دوسرا شخص پھر آپ کے پاس ان کے ڈیرے نہیں رکھتا ہے۔ لہذا اس طرح کے کرمی رابطوں کو کاٹنا ایک بہت ہی طاقت ور عمل ہوسکتا ہے۔ اور میں ایسا کرنے کی تجویز کرتا ہوں۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، یہاں تک کہ جب تک آپ کو یہ احساس نہیں ہوتا ہے کہ آپ واقعی اپنی خواہش کا اظہار دوسرے سے کرنا چاہتے ہیں ، کیوں کہ تب ہم کام کر چکے ہیں۔ تب ہم واقعی معافی کے ساتھ کر چکے ہیں جب ہم یہ کہہ سکتے ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، “میں آپ کو دیکھتا ہوں اور آپ کی خواہش کرتا ہوں۔”

کیٹی: مجھے یہ پسند ہے۔ اور اس سے مجھے ایک اقتباس کے بارے میں سوچنا پڑتا ہے جو میں نے اپنے دفتر میں ایک یاد دہانی کے بطور پرنٹ کیا ہے۔ اور یہ کہتا ہے ، معافی قیدی کو آزاد کر رہی ہے ، اور قیدی کو احساس کرنا خود ہی تھا۔ یہ ایک ایسا تحفہ ہے جو ہم اپنے آپ کو دیتے ہیں اور امید کرتے ہیں کہ دوسرے شخص کو بھی ، لیکن چاہے وہ اسے قبول کریں یا نہ کریں ، یہ ایک تحفہ ہے جو ہمیں انہیں دینا ہے۔

خوشی: ٹھیک ہے ، ان کا مسئلہ ہے۔ ہاں

کیٹی: بالکل۔ اور یہ حیرت انگیز ہے کہ وہ چیزیں ، اور یہ باتیں میرے ذہن میں بدلنے سے ، دوسرے لوگوں کے ساتھ تعلقات میں اتنی آزادی ملی۔ اور جیسے میں ان خیالات سے اتنا منسلک نہیں تھا جو دوسرے لوگوں نے میرے بارے میں یا دوسرے لوگوں کی رائے کے بارے میں سوچا تھا۔ اور مجھے حقیقت میں ان چیزوں کا ادراک ہوسکتا ہے جیسے یہ مجھے پسند کرنا ان کا کام نہیں ہے ، مجھے پسند کرنا میرا کام ہے ، اور مجھے صرف وہیں سے آغاز کرنے دیں۔ میں یہ بھی پسند کرتا ہوں کہ آپ نے اپنے احساس کو بڑھاوا دیا اور حرکت کی اور چاہے یہ غم و غصہ ہو اور تکیا کو مارنا کیوں کہ میرے خیال میں کبھی کبھی یہ آسان ہے کہ ہم ہمیشہ اپنے جذبات پر قابو پالیں اور ان چیزوں پر مہر لگائیں اور ، آپ جانتے ہو سامنے اور کتاب ، “باڈیز اسکور اسکور” واقعتا me میرے لئے اس مقام کو گھر لے آئی ، جس کی مثال یہ ہے کہ ہم واقعتا actually ، ہمارا جسمانی طور پر ان جذبات کو ظاہر کرسکتا ہے جن سے ہم نمٹنے نہیں کرتے ہیں۔ اور میں نے یقینی طور پر دیکھا ہے کہ اپنی زندگی میں اور ہم اکثر ایسے جیسے سوچتے ہیں ، “ٹھیک ہے۔ اگر مجھے ان تمام اندرونی چیزوں کو ٹھیک کرنے کی ضرورت ہے تو ، میرا جسم خود ٹھیک ہوجائے گا۔ ” لیکن اکثر ، یہ دوسری طرح سے بھی جاسکتا ہے ، اگر آپ تحریک کرتے ہیں اور جسمانی پہلو کو حل کرتے ہیں تو ، یہ آپ کو اندرونی جذباتی پہلو کو بھی حل کرنے میں مدد مل سکتی ہے۔ اور یہ کہ میں سوچتا ہوں کہ اس تھراپی کے حصے کے طور پر نقل و حرکت کو ٹیپ کرنا یا استعمال کرنا جیسے چیزوں کے پیچھے کچھ خیال ہے۔ اور مجھے پیار ہے کہ آپ نے یہ غصہ تھراپی کی طرح ہی پیدا کیا ہے ، یا جیسے ان جذبات کو اپنی جگہ بنانا ہے اور انہیں باہر آنے دینا ہے اور ان کا شکریہ ادا کرنا ہے۔ آپ بھی ، مجھے یقین ہے ، ٹیپنگ کے کچھ ورژن بھی کریں۔ کیا یہ ٹھیک ہے؟

خوشی: بالکل۔ ہاں ہم اسے جذباتی توازن کو ٹیپنگ کہتے ہیں۔ یہ نیورو لسانی ہے۔ ٹھیک ہے ، ہم نیورو لسانی پروگرامنگ کو یکجا کرتے ہیں ، لہذا ٹی ایلنگ کے ساتھ این ایل پی۔ لہذا ہم جسم پر کچھ ایکیوپریشر پوائنٹس ٹیپ کرتے ہیں۔ وہ عام طور پر میریڈیئنز کا اختتامی نقطہ ہوتے ہیں۔ لہذا جسم میں شاہراہیں ہیں۔ اور پھر ہم اپنے آپ کو جادوئی جملے کہتے ہیں۔ ایسی چیزیں ، “میں خود سے پیار کرتا ہوں اور قبول کرتا ہوں ، یہاں تک کہ جب میں خوف محسوس کرتا ہوں۔ اور جب میں بہادر محسوس کرنے کا انتخاب کرتا ہوں تو میں خود سے پیار کرتا ہوں اور اسے قبول کرتا ہوں۔ ” آپ جانتے ہو ، ہم نے جیسے ہی آپ چاہیں یہ منتر ، اثبات ، منتر ، ایک ساتھ رکھے ہیں۔ اور جب آپ جسم میں ان توانائی کے نکات سے ان کو جوڑتے ہیں تو ، آپ اپنے دماغ پر ایک بہت ہی طاقتور چال چلا رہے ہیں۔ ہم نے دماغ کے اثر و رسوخ کے بارے میں اتنی بدیہی یا اس کے بارے میں بات نہیں کی ، ہم کیا کر رہے ہیں ، لیکن ہم نے ایک طرح سے ایسا کیا ، کیونکہ ہم نے کہا ہے کہ ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، بعض اوقات آپ جان بوجھ کر کچھ حاصل کرسکتے ہیں لیکن پھر ہر چیز کے اندر ، آپ کہتے ہیں ، “ارے نہیں ، ہم یہ نہیں کر رہے ہیں۔ یہ خوفناک ہے۔ ٹھیک ہے؟

اور یہی وہی فرق ہے جو ہوش اور لاشعور دماغ کے مابین ہوتا ہے۔ اور جب ہم ٹیپ کر رہے ہیں تو ہم بالکل بے ہوش دماغ میں جا رہے ہیں۔ اور یہ واقعی طاقتور ہے کیونکہ آپ دیکھتے ہیں کہ باشعور ذہن ورنہ وہ کنٹرولنگ حص .ہ ہے جو لاشعور ذہن میں فلٹر کی طرح ہے۔ اور ہم عام طور پر ، بطور انسان ہی سوچتے ہیں کہ ہم اپنا شعور ذہن ہیں ، لیکن ہم اس لئے نہیں ہیں کہ اگر آپ اپنے ہوش کے ساتھ سوچتے ہیں تو ، آپ گری دار میوے میں مبتلا ہوجائیں گے کیوں کہ آپ کا شعور ذہن جو چاہے سوچے گا ، ٹھیک ہے؟ یہ سارا دن گزین خرگوش کے سوراخوں کو نیچے جاتا رہے گا۔ تو آپ کا ایک اعلی حص higherہ ہے جو ہمیشہ اس پر نگاہ رکھتا ہے۔ اور جو کچھ آپ کے ساتھ اب تک اس زندگی میں ہوا ہے ، گذشتہ زندگی کے وقت ، جو بھی آپ مانتے ہیں وہ آپ کے بے ہوش دماغ میں محفوظ ہے۔ لہذا تمام محدود عقائد ، ہر وہ چیز جس کا شاید آپ پر کبھی اثر پڑتا ہے اس نے اس لاشعور دماغ کو شکل دی ہے ، لیکن ہوش مند ذہن ، ہمیشہ اس پر منحصر رہتا ہے اور اس کی حفاظت کرتا ہے ، اس وقت تک بے ہوش دماغ میں پڑنا مشکل ہے جب تک کہ آپ گہری آرام سے آرام نہ کریں۔ سموہن یا ٹیپنگ کے ساتھ ہوش میں دماغ کو مشغول.

لہذا ان نکات کو ٹیپ کرکے اور اثبات یا تقویت کو کہتے ہوئے ، آپ پہلے سے ہی باشعور دماغ کی حد سے تجاوز کر رہے ہیں ، اس کا مطلب یہ ہے کہ تمام معلومات آپ کے بے ہوش دماغوں میں چلی جائیں گی۔ اور اسی طرح ٹیپ کرنے کی طاقت کام کرتی ہے۔ آپ جسم میں انرجی ہائی وے کے ذریعہ توانائی کو ٹیپ کرنے اور اعضاء پر دباؤ ڈال کر نہ صرف جسم کو دباؤ ڈال رہے ہیں ، بلکہ آپ اپنے اثبات کی طاقت کے ساتھ ، اس کے سب سے بڑے حصے میں داخل ہوکر بھی دباؤ ڈال رہے ہیں۔ دماغ. اور ، آپ جانتے ہو ، وہ 80٪ جو آپ کے لاشعوری ذہن میں ہے وہ واقعتا شو دکھا رہا ہے۔ So part of the job I feel that we have as a human is to tidy up in our unconscious mind and to get those two minds aligned again with where we really wanna go, and where we really wanna go is where our heart’s desires lie.

Katie: Such an eloquent explanation. And certainly, one of the areas that this seems to present itself is in things like weight struggles. And that was, like I said, the reason I found you and connected with you in the first place and I thought that was gonna be the big benefit and I realized, like I said, that that was merely a symptom, but I know from sharing my story that this is a story that many women share and that there does seem to be a link of like, at least in my case, that past trauma and the link to weight and being able to use these tools, I know you have a program and a book that I’ll link to called “Sleep Your Fat Away” that is kind of designed to do this, to access that subconscious. From what I’ve read, we assume, like you said, that we’re so much our conscious mind, but truly so much of everything…like our subconscious is actually much larger than our conscious mind. And so, we’re doing all this work in this little part of our conscious mind thinking we can will ourselves to do these things or whatever, but we’re not addressing this gigantic underground garden in the subconscious that is controlling all these things that happen in the conscious.

Joy: Yeah. It’s like making a horse drink water. You can make it drink water if it happens to be thirsty in that moment, but most of the times, again, a struggle.

Katie: For women who…because this is certainly one of the most common follow-up questions I get after sharing my own weight loss and also all the inner work that accompanied it was, you know, people ask, “How do I start? If I also am struggling with my weight, where do I start?”

Joy: Well, I would start by watching the free webinar. You go to and then check out how the system works. I explain it there. And then you can sign up for the virtual boot camp. And it’s really simple because we designed the app. It’s really beautiful. You have it right on your phone. And then it’s as simple as every single day, you take a 20-minute power nap. Now, believe it or not, that is the hardest bit for people to do, is taking that 20-minute break. So guess why in the intuition program, that’s step one. So if you’re willing to do that and hit Play on your phone and listen to me talking to your unconscious mind for 20 minutes a day, all you’ll ever then have to do is tap one point above your lips and below your nose before you eat, take a few breaths, eat slowly and consciously, eat whatever you want, but eat it slowly and consciously. And then at night time, you listen to some audio trainings that I’ve made there, like guided meditation sleep programs, and you sleep to those because you see in the nighttime, when your conscious mind is asleep, your unconscious mind is wide awake so it’s the perfect time to train the brain. So you just have it on at a barely audible level. It’s just like a whisper in the background. And a lot of people tell me their sleep quality improves. They sleep deeper. They don’t need as much sleep. So, you know, the side effects so far, as what I know, only beneficial.

Katie: What about people who… So for me the trauma was very much in the past and the weight was an expression that I had to address in the current. But the acute thing was in the past. What about people who are still facing some version of the acute thing right now, whether it be a health challenge or a relationship dynamic or something that is causing current and acute issues in their lives? Because I often hear from those people, kind of the idea that like, “Well, that’s great that you could work through that, but I have this, and this, and this that are out of my control or…”

Joy: Yeah. Well, that’s what we always think, right? We always will think that it’s due to forces outside of our control that we’re in the situation that we are. I’m sorry, but no, we have literally created every single thing in our life because it is supposed to be helping us in some ways. So we are the creators of our life and we have to own responsibility for that, even if we don’t like where we are right now. So after having done that, saying, “Yeah. ٹھیک ہے. I claim that. I’m ready. I’m now gonna create a life that I really do want.” Then if we are still facing all that stress, so it’s like the repercussions of our past decisions, what we need is we need tools to deal with that stress because stress is always gonna be part of our lives more or less, but, you know, we’ll always have challenges.

So that’s why, you know, especially my Joyful Kids program, I’m so hard on teaching, even the little ones, simple tools to manage stress because we can do that. The only thing we truly can control is ourselves. So when we start claiming that responsibility and help ourselves deal with the stress that we’re facing, those challenges don’t seem so insurmountable anymore. We will actually discover, “Wow, you know, step by step, I’m getting there. And I don’t have to be perfect. I just have to do my best.” And the rest is more about relaxing than doing more. Really, if I’ve learned one thing in weight loss, it’s usually the ones that are struggling most, say they are just too busy, feel totally overwhelmed in life, and are just doing too much.

Katie: Such a great point. And I’m glad that you mentioned the kid aspect because that’s one thing I thought of often as I was learning these lessons in my own life is how can I, as a parent, best prepare my kids to have these tools from an early age, because we always, you know, think those things, how wonderful would it be if I had known this so long ago, but we can give that gift to our children. So talk to me about the Joyful Kids program and maybe some strategies we can use with our children at different ages to help them have these tools from the beginning.

Joy: Yay. جی ہاں. This is my hot pet passion project right now because I had the same feeling. I was seeing that, you know, the ones that are most vulnerable in our society are the kids. And at the same time, they’re our new leaders. So what are we doing? ٹھیک ہے؟ We’re traumatizing our kids, I think, like never before. And I won’t go into why and whatever, we all know why, all the things that are happening, right? But how do we help kids most? And how can we help them no matter where they are, what religion they come from, what social background they come from? So I have put everything that I have learned that works with adults into this program and made it that it’s suitable for kids. And you know, the fun part of it was that I had to make it that simple.

So there are five steps to finding your joy. And step one is becoming aware of the emotion that you’re feeling right now. So with children, I might use a different languaging around that, but you see, I try to work without labels with things like emojis that help children identify the feeling that they have because when we’re working with very young children, for instance, they often don’t know what angry means, or sad, or frustrated, all those words. So we start already kind of programming and giving them different words for different feelings. So in this program, we start out with assessing, you know, what am I feeling right now? Then in step two, I say, “Okay, how big is this feeling? Is it tiny? Is it small? Is it medium? Is it large? Is it extra large? How big is it right now? What do you feel right now?” ٹھیک ہے؟

So by doing that already, I am helping the child or anybody who’s doing it really become centered in themselves, becoming aware of, “What is going on in me right now?” ٹھیک ہے؟ And then we go to the next step and we say, “Okay. So what’s our intention? This is how we feel right now. What do we really want?” And then the children will say, “I wanna feel happy again. I wanna feel loved again. I want this, I want that.” ٹھیک ہے؟ So the tuning in to the goal to what is it…their desire, right? And after that, I teach them how to set a clear intention because I feel that is so important that we teach our children that setting goals, and intentions, and, you know, listening to our desires is part of life and it’s part of creating life. So after we’ve set our intention, we do the five.

So I took five points that we tap from an, you know, an emotional balance. We tap up to 13 points, but I took the 5 basic points that I know will help children rebalance the energy in their body systems. So I took the systems from traditional Chinese medicine, the five elements, and I’ve worked at this five-step procedure of tapping five different points and saying nice things to yourself. So in the children’s program, we often say to ourselves, “I’m powerful. I’m loved. I’m safe. I’m free.” You know, anchoring them on the positive beliefs that we want to have as humans to be able to have a successful life. And then after we’ve tapped our points, we go to our happy place. And that’s where I teach children the power of visualization. So, you know, defining and creating your own happy place, so your safe place inside of yourself, a place that you can go to when you go to sleep at night, when you’re feeling unsafe, when anything’s going on, where, you know, I don’t know how to deal with this right now, you always have the option to go to your happy place. And by doing this, we’re actually teaching how to manifest. Because if you go into your happy place, you’re in good vibrations and you’re thinking about all the things you wanna see happen in life, your goals, your dreams, your desires, you are sending out that frequency. You’re being that radio. You’re being that channel for all that good. And the shift that happens in children is just so awesomely quick, usually. You see, they’re not as bunged up or as layered over with all this conditioning that we usually have going on when we’re older. But as kids, it’s much quicker for them. Once they get it, they get it and they’re passionate about it. So, yeah, the Joyful Kids program is something I would love to see thousands and thousands of children practice on this planet and teach each other so that we can really rise as a global community.

Katie: Yeah. Kids are wonderful. I feel like they don’t have all those years of practice of asking the negative questions or protecting themselves from those things. And I think right now, like I think you’re right, the kids are definitely suffering. I think all of us are suffering in a lot of ways and a pattern I’ve noticed or that seem to be true for me and I notice in other people as well is a lot of people have a core question and these seem to develop around childhood or a core limiting belief or a core filter. A lot of times it seems to be something along the lines of I’m not good enough, or I’m not lovable, or I’m not worthy. And we spend our lives trying to get an answer to that question or to feel lovable, or good enough, or worthy, or whatever it is. Do you have any techniques right…for right now, especially, I feel like times like these maybe tend to intensify those things when there’s extra stress. Do you have any tools for kind of figuring out and addressing those core questions that we have? And do those develop in childhood?

Joy: They definitely do. They definitely develop in childhood for most of the time because the first seven years of childhood, we’re in the programming years. Our brain is in such a deeply relaxed brainwave state that we’re kind of without filter. We will take onboard anything that appears, our surrounding says to us with enough emotional impact, right? So all that conditioning is what’s usually blocking us from being our most wonderful selves as adults. So the tools that I really would recommend, because they’re just the quickest to create that change are really the tapping tools. Check out the five elements tapping on our YouTube channel. Check out the switch. You know, if you just learn one tapping technique, learn the switch. You’ll find it on YouTube. And then every single time you catch yourself being negative towards yourself or others, stop, take a breath, tap your point, and say something nice to yourself.

It could be anything from, “I am love. I have purpose. All is well. I am safe. I am free.” You know, go in your creative vortex there of all the good things you could do or say to yourself. But just do that. Do that and do it every day. At least do it just before you go to bed. Make that your bedtime routine, is to forgive yourself for whatever you think you did wrong that day. Forgive yourself for not living up to your standards. Forgive others for not being their perfect selves either, and go to sleep in a good space. Listen to brain training at night. You know, you can choose any meditation you like. If you like the messaging, you like the voice, then go to sleep with it and have it on at a barely audible level and feed your brain the stuff that you really want it to have and not the junk that other people are feeding it.

Katie: That’s a great practical tip, I think, as well right now is with so much uncertainty and negativity in the world right now, I think one tip that I found helpful is to be really cognizant of the inputs that you’re allowing in. And for me that means I don’t watch any mainstream news whatsoever because it is so focused on the stress and the negative and I saw zero benefit from that. It affected my mental state.

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Another thing that at least looking at myself right now, I’ve noticed that times like this, I think any of us who have had tendencies to be control freaks, times like this can make that very difficult.
Joy: Yes. I’m glad you’re mentioning the control. It popped up in our conversation beforehand, and that’s maybe the hardest part of this whole journey, is realizing that you really do only have control over yourself, and that is already hard. I mean, try controlling your mind just for a day, just for an hour, just for 10 minutes. ٹھیک ہے؟ But we’re so striving at one side. We’re so programmed to strive for control and safety that we’ve forgotten to honor the other part of that paradigm. And the other part of that paradigm is adventure and creativity. So we have to find balance between those two. And we can only find that if we’re willing to give up that control. You know, there are so many quotes that are saying, “Make a good plan. That’s the best way to make God laugh.” ٹھیک ہے؟ You can only set an intention. You can work on yourself, be in a good space, and then do the best you can. One step after the other. Focus on one thing. And don’t try and do it all at the same time. I think that’s where we get most lost.

Katie: Yeah. That’s a good point. And yeah, realizing it’s not an easy lesson, but there’s a freedom in that realization that we don’t control…true, like you said, anything, except for our own selves and our own response to the things that happen to us. We don’t control the things that happen to us. We don’t control other people, not even our children. I think that can be a tough one for mothers, but even from the very beginning, I mean, if you need proof, look at a 2-year-old and try to control a 2-year-old, it doesn’t work.

Joy: Yeah. Try and make it sleep. Try and make it poop. Try and make it eat. You can’t right?

Katie: Exactly. That one definitely reared its head for me at the beginning of lockdown. The first week, I couldn’t figure out why I was angry and wanted to just constantly work out. I wasn’t hungry and I wanted to like punch something, like kind of that rage thing. I was like, “Where is this coming from?” And I realized it went back to that idea of control and feeling safe when we have that illusion of control. And I had vowed in one of those past traumatic moment that I will feel safe by never feeling helpless again. And here I was faced with a thing that was bigger than me that I couldn’t control that made me feel helpless. And I had to then use that as a way to face this thing. And I think hopefully I have emerged better on the other side.

Joy: Certainly you also need to recognize the anger and just to calm your feelings there a bit, is, you know, you weren’t only feeling your anger, you were feeling the anger that was going on globally as well, that people were angry. People are angry. I mean, that part is not getting better. And I think that’s where a lot of empaths under us really can struggle, is keeping that apart saying, “Is this my anger or is it somebody else’s anger right now?” So that’s why I think it’s really important to take this time now, to have clear boundaries so that, you know… Dealing with yourself is enough. You’ve got to at least do that before you start solving other people’s problems.

Katie: What about any specific starting points for people who can recognize that maybe they struggle the most with self-judgment or with…we touched on it a little bit, but excuses. And so when things come up kind of answering those questions of, “Well, this is why I can’t, and this thing is bad, and this thing out of my control is the reason.” I’m sure like everything else, awareness is the first step, but where would you have people start for those kinds of things if they maybe can recognize that’s a problem, but don’t even know where to begin?

Joy: I like that. I think from my point of view, excuses actually usually come from a lack of self-worth. I don’t actually believe I am worth it. So I think looking at that part and saying, “Okay. So what if I was? What if I could do this? How would I feel to have achieved that, to be in that state?” And every day, connect more to where you actually wanna go. I call it creating your quantum self, creating that blueprint of the you, the best version of you that’s there. It’s out there and it’s waiting for you in the future for you to finally connect with. And then every night before you go to sleep, just imagine, I don’t know, getting in a spaceship, get on, I don’t know, your flying unicorn, get on a cloud, or just imagine beaming yourself there.

Just imagine you could go visit that quantum self, that best version of you every night before you go to sleep and review the day and then ask yourself, “What is my highest priority right now? What is that one thing that I need to do?” And then allow your quantum self to give you the answer. You know, so often we get stuck in our own minds that we forget that we have the ability to connect to that higher mind. Call it the higher self. I don’t mind what you call it, but really train yourself in thinking in those possibilities and then allow yourself to daydream. Every time you’re waiting somewhere, you have time to spend, it can be just a minute, connect back to that best version of you and imagine what that version of you would do now. What would they see? What would they act out on?

And I think that that has been very helpful to me, to keep that, not only that connection going, but also to kind of coach myself to be the best version of myself and to keep asking myself, you know, “What is the most important thing for me to do right now?” Meaning me, to do right now, because there are a lot of things that need to be done right now, but what do I need to do right now? And that for me is I would now call it maybe reading the work of Jacob Liberman and, you know, all the research that’s coming out on light, I would now say that that intuition, that force that we call the greater one of us, actually is just light. And when we align with that light and we recognize that light in ourselves, that light starts leading us. And that’s when the struggle stops and the flow begins. And I think that’s what all of us are actually looking for, is that feeling of being in the flow of life rather than struggling with it.

Katie: Yeah. That’s a wonderful way to put it. Do you have any other tips for… I love that as an evening routine. For a morning routine, especially in the more chaotic time, like how can we start the day on the best foot?

Joy: Well, my favorite way of starting a day is before I open my eyes, I think of at least three things that I’m grateful for. And that could be as simple as I’m grateful in my warm, soft bed. I’m grateful I had a good night’s sleep. I’m grateful for my kids, whatever. So I go into a bit of gratitude and then I set my intention for the day. And the way that I do that is I do a Christallin command, and this is a technique we teach. And I also teach children. And it’s very, very simple. All you do is you close your eyes and then you roll your eyes up as if you’re looking through the crown of your head and you keep your eyes rolled up there. And then you say inside of yourself, “Even if I don’t know how to make this day the best day today, to be my best self, to be most loving, most connected, most wise, whatever, even if I don’t know how, all I do know is that it is so now. And I delete, delete, delete anything that could stop me and I download, download, download everything I need to do so now with grace, ease, and joy. شکریہ شکریہ شکریہ So it is, so it shall be, or something even better.” And then I let it go. And then I get up. That way I start my day with a clear intention and not according to somebody else’s agenda.

Katie: I love that phrase. I’ve heard you say it several times, it’s about with grace and joy. And I love it also because that tie in to your name and your family with that.

Joy: That is a coincidence. جی ہاں. That is true. But, you know, it makes a difference because yeah, we can want something, go for something, but then usually at what price? So by putting in, “I want it with grace, ease, and joy,” I circumnavigate that whole scenario.

Katie: I love that. And you’ve mentioned so many of your resources. I will make sure I link to all of the videos you’ve mentioned and to your programs and books at So if you guys are listening while you’re exercising or driving, those can all be found there. Don’t worry about writing them down while you’re doing those things. And I’m so glad that you were here. I think this is super, super helpful. I’ve loved using things like the switch with my kids because we certainly, like I said, we can’t control them, but that is a really great tool that I found can help be a pattern interrupt for them when they get in one of those negative cycles and help them take a deep breath and reframe and move through it as well. And a question I love…well, a couple that I love to ask toward the end of interviews, the first being other than your own, if there are any books that have really dramatically influenced your life and if so, what they are and why?

Joy: Well, I would like to mention Louise Hay and “Heal Your Life” because that was my first Google book, I’d call it. And it really helped me see that connection between emotions and our bodies, our thoughts, and our bodies. It’s a simple, beautiful book. I love that one.

Katie: I love it. I will make sure I link to that one in the show notes as well. And then another question I love to ask, and I’m curious of your response to is if you had to guess, what would you call out as the kind of the 80/20 of most effective things that you do in your life or things that lead to the most positive results, the things that you practice, whether it’s on a daily basis or not that lead to the most positive for you in your life?

Joy: I would say sitting in the morning in silence, meditating in the morning, that’s…that and pranayama have been the biggest shift to me, apart from all the other things I teach. But really having that daily practice. And you were talking about excuses. I mean, my brain comes up with a bunch of excuses in the morning where it’s like, “Nah. I’m not gonna do it today. I’ll do it tomorrow,” whatever. But when you’re saying, “No. I’m committing. I’m doing this every single day because do I have 10, 15 minutes? Yes, I do. I always do.” So I would say those two tools, meditation and pranayama, and doing it in the morning before you start out into the world, I think is the most powerful practice that I have.

Katie: I love that. I think that’s a perfect place to wrap up. We’ve talked about so many things that were influential in my journey. Like I said, I’ll make sure that we link to them so that people can find you and keep learning from you. Where can people find you online if they want to start learning right now?

Joy: Well, if they’re on Facebook, join The Joy Tribe. It’s a free Facebook group for those interested in spreading joy. And online that you can find me on or

Katie: Wonderful. I will include those links as well. Joy, thank you so much for being part of my journey and also for being here and sharing today.

Joy: Thank you so much, Katie. It’s a pleasure.

Katie: And thank you as always for listening, for sharing one of your most valuable resources, your time with both of us today. We’re so grateful that you did, and I hope that you will join me again on the next episode of The Wellness Mama Podcast.

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