Dr. Jack Wolfson Takes On Common Heart Health Myths


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Katie: Hello, and welcome to the “Valence Mama” podcast. I’m Katie, from Valence Mama.com and Valence.com, this is Wellness on the End with e, which is my new line of personal care products that really help your hair, skin and food. Food is more than just safe and natural. Body. I’m really excited to share this story with you. I’m here with Dr. Jack Wolfson, a board certified cardiologist who uses nutrition, lifestyle changes and supplements to help prevent and handle the disease.

We will talk about everything about heart health, and some common myths to get rid of. With his wife, Dr. Heather Wolfson is Dr. Wolfson. I’ll link to their website in the show notes so you guys can find them. They have an excellent resource for all kinds of health and lifestyle information. They are the parents of three children who were born at home. And in this episode, Dr. Wolfson, and I delve deeper into heart health, but more than that.

He talks about things like heart problems that can affect young people and what to do about them, the matrix by which we can know what our heart is doing, home Factors that we can change to improve heart health and overall health. Get over some common myths and misconceptions about things like cholesterol, saturation, fat, and vitamin D, sunscreen, and even a small change like that can save someone else’s life and reduce the risk of some problems so much. Can do such as 70% or 80%. Really interesting event. I know you will enjoy it as much as I enjoyed recording it. And without further ado, we go here. Dr. Wolfson, welcome. Thanks for coming here

Dr. Wolfson: Thank you very much, Katie. Happily, there are a lot of things that are really exciting for your audience that can be very beneficial. So, ready to roll.

Katie: Me too. I have a lot of areas I want to go with you, but I always like to learn a little bit about my guest, and I know you are a cardiologist and cardiologist. I would love to hear a little bit of your story and how you can become a natural heart doctor.

Dr. Wolfson: Yes. Definitely something. I’m basically like my father before me. My father was a cardiologist. I wanted to be exactly like my father and follow in his footsteps and that’s what I did. I went through four years of medical school, three years of internal medicine, three years of heart disease and then I joined a huge cardiology exercise in Arizona, where I became a senior partner. And on the job, I’m doing angiograms and pacemakers and all the high-tech cardiology stuff that we cardiologists do. And in 2005, therefore, a few years on the job, when I met the woman who would become my wife and she is a chiropractic doctor, as she says, the doctor of the case. And he starts telling me all these things about how doctors are killing people, drugs are useless, that procedure is useless, my whole career is a shameful interpretation. And Katie, she told me these things, like in our first date.

And as far as she was saying, you know these things and as far as I need to be a doctor, because of that, talking about nutrition, important things in lifestyle and talking about healthy lifestyle To Use Evidence-Based Supplements And Chiropractic Care. All of these things really resonate with me because I saw the diseases around me as traditional heart disease. I saw the disease in my own family with my father. And when my dad was suffering from Parkinson’s disease in his late 50’s. In the late fifties, he was dying of a disease like Parkinson’s. And the Mayo Clinic tells us there is nothing we can do for your father. We don’t know why your father is sick and there is nothing we can do to help him. You know, a 20-year-old medical expert, and he’s like, “I’ll tell you exactly why your dad is sick because he eats garbage, he doesn’t sleep well.” And as for Chicago. Cardiologist, he doesn’t get any sunshine. He drinks a lot of alcohol. He takes this neurotoxin poison leptor which takes for cholesterol. It’s around, you know, radiation. The show has seemed a bit unfocused in recent episodes, but it’s obviously all about the EMF and the hospital. “

And I fully understand that most cardiologists and medical doctors will follow this person. To me, it was very easy to listen to this woman. Number one, she’s absolutely drop-dead beautiful, and number two, she was spot on and that’s how I changed the natural cardiology. In 2012, Wolfson Integrative Cardiology started a process. My wife and I are Dr. Wolfson together and you know, I wrote my book in 2015, and you go there.

Katie: I like it. And I love hearing the voices of you and your wife who are in the field of medicine and who are speaking in this comprehensive way. I know I took the heat for her, not as a doctor, just like a mother doing research. And I always thought, “You know, it would be great when doctors would talk about it because then people would really listen and they would change the industry,” but I guess you might be into these things. Got some warmth to say. Even in my profession.

Dr. Wolfson: Well, I do, you know, Katie, every day, you know, we get one, you know, one commentary and whether it’s on social media, we get emails or phone calls. Come I’m on a webinar and maybe nobody likes what I’m saying, you know, and they comment. But as you know, in order to survive in the world in general, you will have a thick skin, leave the place of natural health. There are a lot of people who are against our message because, once again, it is really shocking that what people have learned shakes the foundation of what they consider to be health and fitness. So, this, you know, there’s a problem. And the other side of it, of course, is that it’s a world of pharmaceuticals. It is so ready for traditional medicine, traditional medicine that the industries, of course, you know, will fight us by biting our teeth.

And, you know, I know your credentials and I know your history and obviously, I respect your every move, but when people comment you always know, you know anything. ۔ And sometimes, like, people call me a father blogger, and you’re a mother blogger. “Oh, you’re listening to mother bloggers.” Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me, Looks like Al that sounds crap to me, Looks like Al that sounds crap to me, Looks like Al that sounds crap to me, Looks like Al that sounds crap to me, Looks like Al that sounds crap to me, Looks like Al that sounds crap to me, Looks like Al that sounds crap to me Left the group where no one does any research. Everyone out there is only interested in pills, only in surgery. They are not interested in finding a reason. So, when Katie Wells or another well-known blogger goes into medical literature and pulls this thing out and says, “Wait a second. It shows that sunshine is really important for heart health.” And sleep is very important for heart health and environmental toxins are dangerous for your heart. Why aren’t cardiologists talking about it?

They are not talking about it because they have never been taught to learn about it. And again, these would mean that you have to spend for these processes. So, when cardiologists don’t make money on it, why sit back and talk about water pollution and its innumerable dangers? And it’s really a depressing situation, but, you know, again, we don’t have to worry about that; and I don’t mind people being offended on Facebook, social media. If you don’t like it I have to say. And I know that’s what you said, Katie, “Hey, listen. If you don’t like what I’m saying, you’ll know that my page isn’t right for you. Go to another page where people are more relevant to what you want to talk about. You know, get out of my email list. Press the subscribe button. “It’s really easy. You don’t want my message to go anywhere else.

Katie: Absolutely. And I think one of the key points you really make is that parents, especially parents who have health problems or their children have health problems, I think the best in the world. Researchers are more motivated. And I think when there are better educated, intelligent parents who are looking at these issues and asking big questions, working with practitioners and doctors who are doing the same thing. I think when we see real change in the industry. And because I’m so excited to see you talking today, at least, based on the recent data I’ve seen, heart disease is still the number one killer in the United States and that’s why So, that’s a big problem, and it’s not one that a lot of people, I think, really start to notice when they’re young. It’s something that might be hard for people in their 50’s or 60’s to begin to understand, but it seems like there’s a lot we can do in our younger years that really gets us better as we get older. Can help improve problems. Heart health. So, I’d like to kind, expand and then be specific. But what are some common heart conditions that young people may face? And then there are those that come with age?

Dr. Wolfson: Yes. I mean, of course, you know, heart disease is the number one killer in the world. I mean, clean, I mean, it happens to young people. Nervous woman, so the woman who is still having periods, is still menstruating, she seems to be safe from the common heart disease that we think about. But I’m going to talk a little bit about the realities. I think young women should really know about it because the first cause of a heart attack in younger women is called SCAD. , Which denies the autonomic coronary artery. And I think women should have some understanding of what it is because if you have symptoms of a heart attack, we shouldn’t, shine on it and move on. Us really. That should be considered. And I think young women can definitely lose and SCAD, SCAD, is often under pressure.

Therefore, the pressure is always on the rise. Therefore, we really need to pay attention to what the squad’s signs and symptoms are. And again, these would mean that you have to spend for these processes. It is chest tightness, shortness of breath, suddenness, you know, sweating, you know, nausea.

And I don’t want to scare; again, I don’t want to scare women here, but I want to scare them; it’s not a normal diagnosis, but it happens. And I think women should be aware of that. And I know your audience is very educated. So, I think I’d like to see you read it, you know. And I also got some blog posts on SCAD. There is another, called Tokotsubo cardiomyopathy or broken heart syndrome, where some stressful event again causes something that looks like a heart attack and causes damage to the heart. I want your audience to be aware of this. And I talk about it on my website, but, you know, listen. The most common thing I hear from young women is really throbbing, you know, flip flops, women start beating what we call usually PAC, PVC, before that There are heartbeats, they can be very annoying, very annoying and women. Concerned neo-hippies and their global warming, i’ll tell ya. And we have a lot of things, you know there are interesting things in it and I really have an upcoming webinar on this particular topic. And I think young women really need a good understanding of what heartbeats are and what we can do, you know, why they are, why pharmaceuticals aren’t the answer, and how we treat them naturally. How can

But, you know, just wrapping it all up, you know, it’s the same thing, as you said, of course, the way we treat it now is that we have high blood pressure down the road, coronary arteries down the road. Prevents from causing the disease. , Fall down the road. So, the behavior that you teach on your website is, again, yes, very clear, very critical for these women. I want to be close to my children, and I want to be at their weddings, and I want to see grandchildren, and I want to see grandchildren get married, and so on. Like I want to live a very, very long life and I want to live it in a healthy way.

Katie: I like it. And as I said, I think it’s something that is very important to think about, even at a young age. And I want to know, a lot of people who listen are very good advocates for their health and do a lot, you know, home management, and testing and experience. When it comes to heart health, are there metrics that we can test at home or in the lab, or are we looking at things like heart rate relaxation, are there metrics that we can monitor, By the way, they are photographing the state of our heart.

Dr. Wolfson: Yes. Definitely, I think watching a relaxed heart rate is actually a great idea. میرا مطلب ہے ، یقینا، ، جوان ، صحتمند فرد میں دل کی شرحوں کو آرام دینے کے دوران وہ شاید بیٹھے بیٹھے ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، کوئی کتاب پڑھ رہے ہو ، یہ پچاس کی دہائی میں ہونی چاہئے۔ کچھ بھی ، آپ جانتے ہو ، 50s میں ، شاید 60 کی دہائی میں۔ آپ آرام سے رہتے ہوئے ، اس سے بھی بڑھ کر کچھ بھی ، میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ یہ یقینی طور پر اس بات کی علامت ہے کہ ہمیں اپنے کھیل کو تھوڑا سا اپنانے کی ضرورت ہے اور چاہے وہ ، آپ جانتے ہو ، بہتر کھانے کا انتخاب کرتے ہیں یا پھر ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، نیند میں دیکھتے ہیں ، دیکھتے ہیں دھوپ ، ماحولیاتی ٹاکسن پر نظر ڈالیں۔ اگر آپ اپنے گھر میں کوئی کتاب پڑھ رہے ہیں اور آپ کی دل کی شرح 75 ہے اور آپ کسی خاص وجہ سے دباؤ میں نہیں ہیں تو ، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ ، آپ کو دوبارہ ماحولیاتی زہروں کو دیکھنے کی ضرورت ہے ، شاید آپ کا گھر سڑنا سے بھرا ہوا ہو۔ . آپ جانتے ہیں ، ایک بار پھر ، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ یہ ایک بہت اچھا نکتہ ہے کہ آپ یہ کہتے ہیں کہ دل کی شرح اچھی اور اچھی ہونی چاہئے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، ان منظرناموں میں قابو پایا جاتا ہے۔

اس سے باہر ، آپ جانتے ہو ، جہاں تک ہم جانتے ہیں کہ سوزش کو دل کی بیماری سے جوڑا جاتا ہے۔ سوزش دل کے دورے سے منسلک ہوتی ہے ، سوزش اسٹروک سے منسلک ہوتی ہے ، یہ کینسر ، اور دماغی بیماری ، اور سب کچھ سے بھی جڑ جاتی ہے۔ اور سوجن کی اصل بڑی علامت درد ہے۔ لہذا ، اگر آپ کو ، درد ہے ، اگر آپ کو صرف درد اور تکلیف ہو ، جیسے آپ صرف صبح اٹھتے ہیں اور دوبارہ ، آپ کو تکلیف ہوتی ہے یا شام کے وقت ہوتا ہے اور آپ کو تکلیف ہوتی ہے ، یہ اس بات کی علامت ہے کہ آپ کو سوز ہے۔ اور ایک بار پھر ، ہمیں یہ دیکھنے کے لئے کہ مسئلہ کیا ہے کو گہرائی میں کھودنا شروع کرنا ہوگا۔ آپ جانتے ہیں ، مجھے بھی لگتا ہے ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، اپنے بلڈ پریشر کی جانچ پڑتال سے یقینا certainly تکلیف نہیں پہنچتی ہے۔ میں یہ نہیں کہہ رہا ہوں کہ آپ اسے ہر روز چیک کریں گے۔ لیکن ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، اگر آپ یہ کرتے ہیں تو ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، اپنے بلڈ پریشر ، صحت مند شخص کو ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، ایک صحت مند نوجوان ، بلڈ پریشر 100/60، 110/70، 116/76، ان اقسام کی تعداد دیکھیں۔ ایک بار جب آپ 120 سے اوپر نمبر پر آنے لگیں اور آپ جوان ہوجائیں تو ، مجھے لگتا ہے ، ایک بار پھر ، آپ کے لئے واقعی ، مہربان ، ڈوبنے کا موقع ہے۔ اور پھر میں اس کے بارے میں ایک اور بات کہوں گا ، کیٹی کیونکہ یہ نبض کی بات پر واپس جارہی ہے جس کا آپ نے ذکر کیا ہے۔

ہم اپنی نبض کو چیک کرکے خوراک کی حساسیت کی جانچ کرسکتے ہیں۔ لہذا ، اگر آپ کچھ کھاتے ہیں اور 15 سے 30 منٹ کے بعد آپ اپنی نبض کو چیک کرتے ہیں ، اگر آپ کی نبض فی منٹ میں 10 دھڑکن سے بڑھ جاتی ہے تو ، یہ اس بات کی علامت ہوسکتی ہے کہ آپ کسی کھانے میں حساس ہیں۔ لہذا ، لے لو ، آپ جانتے ہو ، گلوٹین ، یا دودھ ، یا مکئی ، یا سویا ، یا جو کچھ بھی خاص بات ہے۔ اگر آپ کو کھانے کے بعد آپ کی نبض اچھل جاتی ہے تو ، یہ پھر سے ، اس بات کی علامت ہوسکتی ہے کہ آپ اس سے حساس ہیں۔ اور یہ ، یقینا، ، معمول کے مجرم ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، گلوٹین ، مکئی ، دودھ ، سویا مجرم ہوسکتے ہیں۔ عام طور پر ، آپ جانتے ہو ، یقینا، ، کیفین آپ کے دل کی شرح کو بڑھا رہی ہے ، شوگر آپ کے دل کی شرح کو بھی بڑھا سکتا ہے۔ تو ، یہ ہے ، جانچ پڑتال کا ایک آسان طریقہ۔

کیٹی: مجھے وہ ٹپ بہت پسند ہے۔ اور یہ بھی کچھ ہے ، جیسا کہ آپ نے کہا ہے ، کوئی بھی گھر سے کر سکتا ہے اور یہاں تک مانیٹر بھی موجود ہے جو ، ایک طرح سے ، آپ کو اپنے دل کی دھڑکن کو حقیقی وقت پر دے دیتا ہے۔ دل کی دھڑکن کی تغیر کے بارے میں کیا خیال ہے کیونکہ یہ وہ چیز ہے جس کے بارے میں ابھی ابھی ادب میں بہت زیادہ بات کی جارہی ہے جو میں نے دیکھا ہے اور ماہرین صحت کے درمیان بھی۔ میں آپ سے ، امراض قلب کی حیثیت سے ، دل کی شرح کی تغیرات کی وضاحت کرنے اور اس کے بارے میں اپنے نقطہ نظر کو بھی بتانے کے لئے پیار کرتا ہوں۔

ڈاکٹر ولفسن: ہاں ، یقینی بات ہے۔ لہذا ، دل کی شرح کی تغیرات ایک ایسی چیز ہے جسے آپ گھر پر نہیں چیک کرسکتے ہیں۔ اسے مانیٹر پر رکھنا ہے۔ لہذا ، آپ کو کسی طرح کا EKG یا تال مانیٹر رکھنا پڑتا ہے تاکہ بنیادی طور پر ایک کمپیوٹر پروگرام کو پڑھ کر معلوم کیا جا سکے کہ جسے ہارٹ ریٹ متغیر کہتے ہیں۔ اور دھڑکن کی شرح میں تغیر لازمی طور پر بہت کم وقت کا فرق ہے جس کو بیٹ ٹو بلٹ تبدیلیاں کہتے ہیں۔ لہذا ، چونکہ آپ کا دل دھڑک رہا ہے ، یہ سب کچھ نہیں ہے … مثال کے طور پر ، اگر آپ کے دل کی شرح فی منٹ 60 دھڑکن ہے ، تو اس کا مطلب ہے کہ آپ کے دل کی دھڑکن ہر سیکنڈ میں ایک بار دھڑک رہی ہے۔ لیکن ایک بار پھر ، ان دل کی دھڑکنوں کے درمیان وقت کبھی کبھی ایک سیکنڈ سے تھوڑا بہت کم ہوجائے گا۔ کبھی کبھی یہ ایک سیکنڈ سے تھوڑا سا زیادہ ہوجائے گا۔ اور وہاں پر ان سبھی مختلف تبدیلیوں کو ہارٹ ریٹ متغیر کہا جاتا ہے ، جو ، دوبارہ ، جانچ ہمیں بتا سکتی ہے۔ اور آپ کے دل کی شرح کی جتنی زیادہ تغیر ہوتی ہے وہ دل کی صحت کی علامت ہے۔ لہذا ، بہت زیادہ دل کی شرح متغیر ہونا ایک اچھی چیز ہے۔ اور ہم دیکھتے ہیں کہ یہ بہت عام ہے ، یقینا ، کم عمر لوگوں کے ساتھ۔ اور ہم اسے بالکل واضح طور پر ایک ای کے جی اور کم عمر لوگوں پر دیکھتے ہیں۔ جیسے جیسے لوگ بڑے ہوتے جاتے ہیں ، وہ اسے کھونے لگتے ہیں۔ اور یہ ایک بار پھر علامت ہے کہ کچھ صحیح نہیں ہے۔

اب ، جب ہم دل کی شرح کی تغیر کو بہتر بنانے کے ل. دیکھتے ہیں ، اسی وجہ سے بہت ساری چیزیں کام میں آتی ہیں ، اور یہ ایک بار پھر ، غذائیت ، نیند ، دھوپ ، ماحولیاتی زہریلے مادے سے واپس آ جاتی ہے۔ اس میں یہ بھی جاتا ہے کہ جسمانی طور پر لوگ کتنے متحرک ہیں۔ اور مجھے لگتا ہے کہ دل کی شرح کی تغیر کو بہتر بنانے کے لئے کچھ جوڑے آسان حکمت عملی ہیں۔ میں ہوں ، تم جانتے ہو ، سنو۔ میری اہلیہ چیروپریکٹک کی ڈاکٹر ہیں۔ میں Chiropractic کا ایک بہت بڑا پرستار ہوں۔ ہر چیز کی صحت اور تندرستی کے لئے ، میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ ہر ایک کو دائمی نگہداشت میں رہنا چاہئے۔ اور میں پوڈ کاسٹ کے ل this اس کے بارے میں بات کرسکتا ہوں اگر کسی کی دلچسپی ہو ، لیکن دل کی شرح کی تغیر کو چیروپریکٹک نگہداشت سے بہتر بنایا گیا ہے۔ تو ، میرے خیال میں اس میں بہت بڑی قیمت ہے۔ مجھے لگتا ہے کہ ایکیوپنکچر ، مساج سے دل کی شرح میں بھی تغیر آتا ہے۔ اور میرے خیال میں یہ ایک بہت ہی اہم عنوان ہے۔ اور میرا خیال ہے کہ اگر کوئی خطرناک نہیں ہے تو پھر ، کسی کی تلاش کر رہا ہے ، تو یہ دل کی شرح میں تبدیلی کی جانچ پڑتال ہوگی۔

اب جب میں اس کے بارے میں بات کر رہا ہوں ، مجھے اس کا تذکرہ کرنا ضروری ہے کہ ایسا نہ کیا جائے ، اور اسے کورونری دمنی کی بیماری کی تلاش میں آپ کی کورونری شریانوں کا سی ٹی اسکین کہا جاتا ہے۔ میں بہت ، تابکاری کی نمائش کے خلاف ہوں ، میں اس ٹیسٹ کے بالکل خلاف ہوں ، حالانکہ دیگر “مجموعی امراض قلب” اور “قدرتی طبی ڈاکٹر” موجود ہیں جو اس سی ٹی اسکین کے لئے ہیں۔ میں اس اسکین کے خلاف ہوں کیونکہ یہ ایک بڑے پیمانے پر تابکاری کی نمائش ہے۔ اور میرے خیال میں ، جیسے ، آپ نے نشاندہی کی ، اس سے بہتر طریقے ہیں جو دل کی صحت کا اندازہ کرنے کے لئے غیر ناگوار اور غیر خطرناک ہیں۔

کیٹی: جب کچھ بنیادی عوامل کی بات کی جائے تو لیب ٹیسٹنگ کا کیا ہوگا؟ میں جانتا ہوں کہ وہ اچھے اور برے کولیسٹرول کی طرح کولیسٹرول کی طرف دیکھتے ہیں ، اور اکثر ، جیسے جب میں نے لیبز حاصل کرلی ہیں ، وہ مجھے کارڈیک رسک فیکٹر تناسب دیں گے۔ جب ان کی بات کی جائے تو ، اس طرح کے ، زیادہ بنیادی ٹیسٹ ، آپ کو ان میں کیا اہمیت نظر آتی ہے ، اور اگر ممکن ہو تو ، ہم ان کو کیسے جانیں کہ یہ جاننے کے ل our ہمارا دل اچھا کر رہا ہے یا نہیں؟

ڈاکٹر ولفسن: ٹھیک ہے۔ یہ ایک بہت بڑی چیز ہے اور یہ ایک حیرت انگیز ہے کیونکہ دوبارہ ، یہ کارڈیک خطرے کو دیکھنے کے لئے غیر ناگوار طریقے ہیں۔ لہذا ، پہلے نمبر پر ، اگر ہم سوزش کو دیکھیں تو میرے خیال میں سوجن کی جانچ پڑتال کرنی ہوگی کیوں کہ اگر آپ کو سوجن ہے تو آپ کو یہ معلوم کرنے کی ضرورت ہے کیوں کہ اگر آپ سوزش ہیں تو آپ پریشانی میں ہیں۔ تو ، آئیے پہلے سوزش کے مارکروں ، اور HSCRP جیسی چیزوں ، آکسائڈائزڈ LDL جیسی چیزوں ، فاسفولیپیس A2 جیسی چیزوں کو دیکھیں جو واقعی میں ایک اچھا کارڈیک ہے۔ اس کے علاوہ بھی دیگر اقدامات موجود ہیں ، لیکن میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ ان میں جن چیزوں کا میں نے ذکر کیا ہے ان میں سوزش ، آکسیکٹیٹو تناؤ کے نقطہ نظر سے دیکھنا واقعی اہم ہے۔ آپ نے ، کولیسٹرول اور لپڈ کا ذکر کیا ہے۔ لپڈ کی انتہائی اہم پیمائش دراصل ایک تناسب ہے۔ اس کو اے پی او بی / اے پی او اے کہا جاتا ہے ، اور اس تناسب سے کم تناسب بہتر ہے۔ لہذا ، میں کل کولیسٹرول ، کل ایل ڈی ایل ، ایچ ڈی ایل چیک کرنے کی زحمت بھی نہیں کرتا ہوں۔ اس سے کوئی فرق نہیں پڑتا ہے۔ واقعی کیا فرق پڑتا ہے وہ تناسب ، apoB / apoA ہے۔

میں ہومو سسٹین کو بھی چیک کرنا چاہتا ہوں۔ ہائی ہومو سسٹین ہر چیز سے جڑا ہوا ہے۔ یہ میتھیلیشن ڈس آرڈر کی علامت ہے۔ لہذا ، ہمیں واقعی طور پر ہومو سسٹین کی سطحوں کو دیکھنے کی ضرورت ہے۔ میں واقعی وٹامن ڈی کی جانچ پڑتال کا ایک بہت بڑا پرستار ہوں ، وٹامن ڈی سپلیمنٹس لینے کی ایک وجہ کے طور پر نہیں ، بلکہ ایک علامت کے طور پر ، ہمیں لوگوں کو بہت زیادہ دھوپ لینے کے لئے بتانے کی ضرورت ہے۔ میں اس کے ساتھ ہی اومیگا 3 ٹیسٹنگ کا بھی ایک بہت بڑا پرستار ہوں کیونکہ ہمارے خلیوں کو اومیگا 3 سے زیادہ لادنا پڑتا ہے۔ لہذا ، اگر ومیگا 3s میں کوئی کمی ہے تو ، ہمیں لوگوں کو اعلی معیار والے سمندری غذا کھانے کی ضرورت ہے۔ اور پھر یہ بھی ، آپ جانتے ہو ، ہم اعلی درجے کی ٹیسٹنگ کرتے ہیں ، انٹرا سیلولر وٹامنز ، انٹرا سیلولر معدنیات ، انٹرا سیلولر گلوٹھاٹیوئن ، کو کیو 10۔ لہذا ، وہ واقعی دل کے نقطہ نظر سے اہم ہیں۔ مجھے لیک آنت کی جانچ کرنا ، لیک گٹ کی تلاش کرنا ، گلوٹین حساسیت کی تلاش کرنا پسند ہے کیونکہ یہ سب دل کی صحت سے متعلق ہے۔ اور پھر حال ہی میں ، ہم پیشاب کے ٹیسٹ کر رہے ہیں جہاں ہم ایک دو چیزوں کو دیکھتے ہیں۔ ایک 31 مختلف مولڈ مائکوٹوکسنز ہیں کیونکہ اگر ہم سڑنا سے بے نقاب ہو رہے ہیں تو ہم ایک بڑی پریشانی میں مبتلا ہیں اور مجھے اس پر ویڈیو مل گئی ہیں۔ اور پھر میں جو حالیہ چیز پیش کر رہا ہوں وہ ہے ماحولیاتی ٹاکسن ، جہاں ہم 27 مختلف ماحولیاتی ٹاکسنز کو دیکھتے ہیں ، جیسے گلائفوسٹیٹ سمیت مختلف طرح کے کیڑے مار ادویات ، جہاں ہم پیرا بینز اور فیتھلیٹ اور پلاسٹک کو دیکھتے ہیں۔

اور میں جانتا ہوں کہ یہ آپ کا ایسا جذبہ ہے ، اور میں آپ کو استعمال کرنے والی ذاتی نگہداشت کی بہت سی مصنوعات کو جانتا ہوں۔ اور میں محبت کرتا ہوں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، میں آپ کی پروڈکٹ لائن کو پسند کرتا ہوں اور اس لئے کہ میں اس حقیقت کو ایک بار پھر پسند کرتا ہوں ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، آپ بات کرتے ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، جزو کیا ہے ، اس کی مصنوعات میں کیوں ہے ، اور پھر ماحولیاتی ورکنگ گروپ کے بارے میں کیا کہتا ہے۔ یہ. میرے خیال میں یہ بہت خوبصورتی سے ظاہر ہوا ہے۔ میں لوگوں کو آپ کی پروڈکٹ لائن کے بارے میں بتانے کے قابل ہونے پر بہت خوش ہوں کیونکہ مجھے لگتا ہے کہ یہ صرف ایک بہت بڑا ذریعہ ہے ، لیکن ایک بار پھر ، کیٹی ، مجھے لوگوں کو بتانے کے لئے بہت فائدہ مند ہے ، ٹھیک ہے ، “یہاں معروضی اعداد و شمار آپ کو ‘ آپ کے ماحول سے زہر آرہا ہے ، ”چاہے وہ پلاسٹک ہو ، فیتھلیٹس ، پیرا بینس ، آپ کو پتا ہے ، ایک بار پھر ، کیڑے مار ادویات ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، بی پی اے اور قلبی بیماری ہے۔ یہ ادب میں ہے۔ اور ایک بار پھر ، میرے امراض قلب کے ساتھی ، وہ اس چیز کو نہیں دیکھ رہے ہیں۔ وہ صرف انتہائی خلوص آمیز انداز میں دیکھ رہے ہیں ، یہ دیکھ رہے ہیں کہ ہم ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، گولی استعمال کرسکتے ہیں ، ہم کیسے استعمال کرسکتے ہیں ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، کچھ ، قسم کی ، امیجنگ اسٹڈی یا ، آپ کیسے جان سکتے ہیں۔ بنیادی طور پر ، “اوہ نہیں ،” کی آڑ میں یہ رقم کمانے کی تجویز بن جاتی ہے۔ ہم صرف ہر ایک کو صحتمند رکھنے کی کوشش کر رہے ہیں۔ لیکن میں آپ کو بتا رہا ہوں ، کیٹی ، یہ ایک بہت ہی پیسہ چلانے والا پیشہ ہے اور یہ بہت بدقسمتی کی بات ہے۔

کیٹی: واہ۔ ٹرائگلیسرائڈز کے بارے میں کیا خیال ہے؟ وہ کیسے کام لیتے ہیں کیوں کہ میں نے کچھ واقعی دلچسپ ڈیٹا دیکھا ہے کہ یہ مختلف چیزوں کا پیش گو کیسے ہوسکتا ہے اور ٹرائگلیسیرائڈس کو کس طرح کم کرنا ہے۔

ڈاکٹر ولفسن: ٹھیک ہے ، میرا اب اندازہ ہے کہ آپ نے بھی اس کا تذکرہ کیا ، میرا مطلب ہے ، اور ایمانداری کے ساتھ میں لیب ٹیسٹنگ کے بارے میں بات کرسکتا ہوں ، آپ جانتے ہو۔ میرا مطلب ہے ، میں نے تائیرائڈ ٹیسٹنگ کا ذکر تک نہیں کیا اور یہ کس طرح دل کی صحت کے لئے اہم ہے ، اور ہم بلڈ شوگر ٹیسٹنگ کا ذکر نہیں کرتے اور یہ دل کی صحت کے لئے کتنا ضروری ہے ، لیکن ٹرائگلسرائڈس توانائی کی فراہمی کی ایک شکل ہیں۔ لہذا ، جب ہم کھانا کھاتے ہیں ، چاہے وہ پروٹین ، کاربس ، یا چربی ہوں ، ان پر اکثر عمل ہوتا ہے اور وہ جسم کے دوسرے علاقوں میں منتقل ہوجاتے ہیں یا تو اسے ایندھن کے طور پر استعمال کیا جاتا ہے یا چربی کے طور پر ذخیرہ کیا جاتا ہے۔ اور یہی ٹرائگلسرائڈس ہیں۔ وہ کھانے کی توانائی کی فراہمی کا طریقہ کار ہیں۔ اور جب ہمارے پاس… ہمارے ٹرائگلسرائڈز اتنے زیادہ ہوتے ہیں ، ہمارے دل کا خطرہ زیادہ ہوتا ہے۔ اور تناسب apoB / apoA کی طرح ، ٹرائگلیسرائڈس بھی صرف ایک لکیری یا سیدھی لائن ہے۔ ہر نقطہ کے ل your آپ کے ٹرائگلسرائڈ اوپر جاتے ہیں ، لہذا اپنا خطرہ مول لیں۔ اور ایک بار پھر ، apoB / apoA کے ساتھ ایک ہی چیز۔ ہر نکتہ کے لئے آپ کی بلڈ شوگر بڑھ جاتی ہے ، لہذا آپ کا خطرہ بھی بڑھتا ہے۔ تو ، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ ہاں ، ٹرائگلسرائڈ ایک اہم پیمائش ہیں۔ اور پھر ایک بار پھر ، ہم اس کو الٹنا کیسے شروع کریں گے؟ اسی جگہ پر ، ہم ایک بار پھر ، مناسب غذائیت ، طرز زندگی اور ثبوت پر مبنی سپلیمنٹس میں داخل ہو جاتے ہیں تاکہ اپنے نمبروں کو بغیر اسٹیٹین ادویات اور دیگر دواسازی کے استعمال کے بہتر بنائیں۔

کیٹی: سمجھ گیا یہ سمجھ میں آتا ہے۔ اور میں جانتا ہوں کہ جب قلبی صحت کی بات ہوتی ہے تو ، پچھلی چند دہائیوں میں ایک زیادہ سے زیادہ متنازعہ موضوع میں سے چربی کی مقدار اور خاص طور پر سنترپت چربی کی مقدار ہوتی ہے۔ اور اب بھی ، ایسا لگتا ہے کہ یہ ابھی بھی ایک نسبتا controversial متنازعہ موضوع ہے جس میں سے ہمیں کس چربی کا استعمال کرنا چاہئے ، جس کا ہمیں استعمال نہیں کرنا چاہئے ، اور ہمیں اصل میں کتنا ضرورت ہے؟ اور یقینا، ، یہاں ایسے نظارے ہیں جو اس کے لئے پورے بورڈ میں ہیں۔ لہذا ، میں آپ کے کلینیکل تجربے اور آپ کی تحقیق میں دلچسپی رکھتا ہوں ، پوری چربی بحث پر آپ کا کیا نظریہ ہے؟

ڈاکٹر ولفسن: ٹھیک ہے ، میری کتاب کو “پیلیو امراض قلب: دل کی صحت کا قدرتی طریقہ” کہا جاتا ہے۔ میں ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، میں بتاؤں گا کہ جو بھی دلچسپی رکھتا ہے اس کے لئے ، میری کتاب دستیاب ہے۔ اسے فری ہارٹ بک ڈاٹ کام کہا جاتا ہے۔ فری ہارٹ بک ڈاٹ کام لوگوں کو میری کتاب مفت حاصل کرے گا۔ وہ سب کرتے ہیں تنخواہ کی فراہمی اور ہینڈلنگ ، لیکن ، آپ جانتے ہو ، یہ ہے ، میرا مطلب ہے ، میں پیلیو امراض قلب ہوں۔ آپ جانتے ہیں ، کیٹی ، جب میں نے پہلی بار دوبارہ آغاز کیا ، آپ جانتے ہو ، ماہر امراض قلب ، تمام طبی ڈاکٹروں کی طرح ، ہم بھی غذائیت کی صفر کی تربیت حاصل کرتے ہیں۔ غذائیت میں صفر کی تربیت۔ لہذا ، جو غذائیت کی بات کی جائے تو ، “ماڈی بلاگر” کو قلبی ماہر امراض قلب سے بہتر حد تک بہتر بنا دیتا ہے کیونکہ ، پھر ، ہم اس کی تربیت حاصل نہیں کرتے کہ افسوس کی بات ہے۔ لہذا ، جب میں نے قلبی بیماری کے بارے میں سچائی اور حقیقی قلبی صحت کو کیسے حاصل کرنا سیکھنا شروع کیا تو ، غذائیت ان پہلی چیزوں میں سے ایک ہے جس میں میں کبوتر ہوں۔

اور صرف ٹن اور ٹن لٹریچر پڑھنے کے بعد ، میں ابھی ایک عام فہم نقطہ نظر کے ساتھ باہر آیا ، جیسے ہمارے آبا و اجداد نے کھایا تھا۔ اور ہمارے آبا و اجداد لاکھوں سالوں سے شکاری تھے۔ تو ، وہ شکاری جمع کرنے والے کھانے کون سے ہیں؟ وہ فری رینج گھاس سے کھلایا گوشت ہیں ، وہ جنگلی سمندری غذا ہیں ، وہ گری دار میوے ، اور بیج اور انڈے ، اور ایوکاڈو اور ناریل ہیں۔ اور آپ نے سنترپت چربی کا ذکر کیا ہے اور ناریل ہے ، جیسے ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، جب سنترپت چربی کی بات آتی ہے۔ اور یہ حقیقت میں ، فوڈ انڈسٹری اور کینڈی بنانے والوں اور اس ساری چیزوں کی وجہ سے باطل ہوچکا ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو کہ ، 1970 کی دہائی سے ، ناریل کے تیل کی بجائے ہائیڈروجنیٹ سویا بین کے تیل کو فروغ دینا۔ لیکن جزیرے جنوبی بحر الکاہل میں ، جزیرے ہمیشہ ہمیشہ کے لئے رہتے ہیں اور بس اتنا ہے کہ وہ ناریل پر مبنی مصنوعات کھاتے ہیں۔ تو ، اور اس حقیقت کے باوجود وہ سب تمباکو نوشی کرتے ہیں۔ لہذا ، آپ جانتے ہو کہ اس قسم کا کھانا کھاتے ہو ، پھر ، یقینا vegetables ، سبزیاں ، موسمی پھل ، وہ پیلیو اہرام ہے۔

آپ وہاں سے کیا تناسب کرنا چاہتے ہیں؟ کیا آپ زیادہ تر پودوں اور تھوڑا سا سمندری غذا اور گوشت بننا چاہتے ہیں؟ یہ اپ پر ہے. اگر آپ گوشت ، سمندری غذا سے بھاری بننا چاہتے ہیں تو ، یہ بھی آپ پر منحصر ہے۔ ہمارے پیلیو اجداد اناج نہیں کھاتے تھے ، نہیں کھاتے تھے ، یقینا، زیادہ مقدار میں شوگر ہوتی ہے ، ان میں مکئی نہیں ہوتی ہے ، ان میں سویا نہیں ہوتا تھا۔ اور پھر ، ظاہر ہے ، اس کے بعد کی ہر چیز نامیاتی تھی ، جہاں تک ممکن ہو کیمیکل سے پاک تھی۔ ان کھانوں میں کوئی مصنوعی اجزاء نہیں تھے۔ لہذا ، اگرچہ سائنس واقعتا this اس کی تائید کرتی ہے ، اور ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، میں نے ایک انٹیگریٹیو کارڈیالوجی کی درسی کتاب میں ایک باب لکھا جو ایک طبی درسی کتاب ہے جو 2019 میں شائع ہوئی تھی۔ میں نے غذائیت اور دل کی صحت سے متعلق ایک باب لکھا تھا ، اور اس پر میرے 187 حوالوں ہیں۔ why the hunter-gatherer diet, paleo diets, ancestral diets, why that is the best way to go and the literature supports it. And I think that’s although I do have, I mean, I’ve got the utmost respect for animals and love for animals and we are involved with animal charities and animal rescues, I think that veganism is a very, very wrong choice and I would encourage anyone who is vegan, please eat seafood. Please eat seafood because it is pure brain food. And again, all societies in the history of the world were meat and/or seafood eaters. And I think we should embrace that in a very healthy and respectful way.

Katie: I agree. And I think I’m on the same page with you absolutely that I think diet is one of the most important and probably the starting factor when it comes to any aspect of health, including heart health. But I think also, there’s a lot of really cool ways that we can support our overall health and our heart health beyond that. Specifically, I’d love to get your take on the role of iron, and tracking that, and how much we need or don’t need because like you mentioned, premenopausal women are at typically lower risk of cardiovascular disease. And at least one of the theories I’ve seen presented about this is that premenopausal women are losing blood every month, losing excess iron. And some people speculate, maybe that’s why post-menopause, the risk of heart disease for women goes up to that similar of men. I’m curious your take on that and if that’s the case, is there a benefit to monitoring our iron levels? And like, for me, mine tend to run high. So, I give blood pretty often.

Dr. Wolfson: Katie, that’s awesome commentary. Yeah. Now, that’s fantastic and that’s such a great, great point. And again, and when I’m talking to, you know, I mean to you, and again, and just makes me think again about how cardiologists, you know, 99% of cardiologists would have no response to what you just said about the importance of checking iron and ferritin levels and making sure those are under control for cardiovascular health and wellness and yes. Menstruating women, they bleed. Our paleo ancestors, they used to bleed. They used to have trauma, they used to get cut, there was bleeding that would happen and, you know, of course, as men and women alike. Now, we don’t even cut ourselves shaving. So, there’s no blood loss. And all we do is stack up all of that iron and its storage form which is called ferritin. And I think it is a massive problem, especially to men that are on testosterone replacement.

So, I don’t think a lot of your listeners, you know, are on, you know, testosterone replacement, they’re males, but I think this is a major issue for men that are on testosterone and that’s a whole another discussion. But again, testosterone tends to really stack up hemoglobin. So, high hemoglobin, high iron, and now essentially, your heart is pumping your own sludge and that will increase cardiovascular risk. So, an answer to your question, I love checking iron, I love checking ferritin. Ideally, both are below 100. I think the optimal range for iron is probably between 30 and 50. And I think getting blood drawn for testing every three months, I think really gives us objective measurements of where we’re at and to make sure we’re on track and to keep us on track. I think that’s important, but also the fact that you’re getting even just a few tubes of blood drawn, I think is beneficial.

And then, like you mentioned the concept of therapeutic phlebotomy where people go to either, you donate blood or if they don’t take your blood, you can just, again, have blood drawn. Maybe it’s 250 CCs, maybe it’s 500 CCs of blood, and doing so every three to four months while you’re monitoring iron, while you’re monitoring ferritin, and while you are monitoring your hemoglobin, to make sure that you’re not getting anemic, but I do think that’s valuable. I do practice that personally. And, you know, ultimately, there is data that says that people that donate blood regularly have like a 70% to 80% lower risk of dying compared to the people that never donate blood. So, I do think it is very important and it’s something that I check on every single patient.

Katie: That’s fascinating and good to know. I love things like that, where you can truly, potentially, save someone else’s life and also get a health benefit of your own. I think those, kind of, little things can make such a big difference, like you said, when we do them regularly. I had no idea the data was that strong though for the reduction in risk rate. Another thing you have written about and talked about quite a bit is vitamin D. And you touched on this a little bit at the beginning of the interview, but I would love to go deep on this because it’s something I’ve researched quite a bit that I monitor in my family members, their vitamin D levels, I know we’re seeing correlations with that and COVID outcomes, and certainly, there’s a lot of data on vitamin D status and cardiovascular health. So, talk to us about… from a doctor’s perspective, what do you look at when it comes to vitamin D, and what do we need to know to optimize this?

Dr. Wolfson: Well, vitamin D obviously, it really is a hormone and it’s produced in the skin and actually, it’s produced from cholesterol. So, as cholesterol is traveling around through the body, through the blood vessels of the body, when the sun hits cholesterol, it turns it into vitamin D. So, if we have “high cholesterol,” it is typically a sunshine deficiency because when you have high cholesterol, oftentimes, it’s with low vitamin D levels. So, as you get more sunshine, you turn that cholesterol which now will drop, and you turn it into vitamin D, and it’ll start going up. So, the body does all these things and the body does it absolutely perfectly until we, as humans, interfere with it with a modern lifestyle. Now, vitamin D receptors are everywhere in the body. Every single cell has these catcher’s mitts for vitamin D. So, they need to be activated by vitamin D and then the receptors go inside of these cells and work their magic. They do what they’re supposed to do. And if we don’t have vitamin D to activate it, then again, the system doesn’t work.

But again, the answer is not vitamin D in the supplement form. You can get plenty of vitamins, you can get quality vitamin D from eating animal foods that have vitamin D in them because the animal produced it for its livelihood and that’s true of eggs as well. And the point being though is that again, when you have low vitamin D, now, it’s a signal to tell you, you need to get sunshine and smart sunshine at that, so, the importance of getting morning sun, noontime sun, afternoon sun.

You talked about, you know, everybody loves to debate the food story, but if anyone thinks that food and nutrition is more important than sunshine, they would be critically making an error in their health and in the advice that they’re giving other people. Sunshine is just as important as food. And again, measuring those vitamin D levels are really critical. And, you know, I mean, Katie, I’ve spoke all over the world and I’ve got people that come to see me from all over the world. People from Canada, people from New York, people from Minnesota, people from Portland, Seattle, Norway, Russia, and it’s so often these kind of cold weather climates, that’s why they have cardiovascular issues, high blood pressure, atrial fibrillation, heart attacks, cardiomyopathy, whatever it may be, because they live in these climates where they don’t get sunshine. And what do I tell people? I tell people to move. I’m like, “Yeah. I mean, you know, that’s my best advice is for you to move. Move to a sunny climate. If you’re not gonna move, and I understand the reasons why, you better take a lot of vacations to get into the sun. So, for every five to seven weeks, you’re up in the cool climate where you’re not getting sun. In the wintertime, you better take five to seven days of vacation.” I do agree that there is room for red light therapy, infrared sauna. I think that stuff has value, but again, nothing replaces the power of the sun.

And I do think that vitamin D supplementation has a role along with vitamin K, specifically vitamin K2 supplementation for people in the wintertime where they’re just not getting the sunshine exposure. And then finally, let me just say, when it’s the summertime, stack up the sun almost like you’re a bear going into hibernation, you’re building up all these high vitamin D levels, so you can carry it safely through the wintertime.

Katie: I think all of that is so important, especially the sunshine piece. I think I focus on nutrition side just because of my background for a really long time. And I noticed a drastic difference when I started using sunlight to my advantage in several ways, both in the form of morning sunlight, as soon as possible after waking up, which we know has benefits for, kind of, the whole hormone cascade throughout the day. And that made a big difference in my energy levels, in my sleep. And then also getting vitamin D through the sun in midday whenever possible, I found out through I have some BDR mutations. I don’t absorb vitamin D well through supplements. And so, I do actually need the sun and there’s a segment of the population that has this same condition. And so, for me, sunlight was a really important key. And you mentioned as well vitamin K2. I’d love to go deep on this as well because it’s, kind of, fascinating what I’ve read in the data about vitamin K2. And I don’t feel like it’s as widely understood or known about as things like vitamin D. So, walk us through how vitamin K2 comes into the equation.

Dr. Wolfson: Yeah. Quite simply, K2 keeps the calcium in the bones and out of the arteries. And so often, I think, you know, people run into problems when they take calcium supplementation, they take vitamin D supplementation, but if they don’t do the K along with it, that’s where they run into trouble. So, K1 is involved with blood clotting and stuff like that. So, there’s a pharmaceutical Coumadin and Coumadin, again, interferes with vitamin K, K1 and K2 for that matter. That’s why more people on Coumadin have coronary artery disease because of the K2 inhibition. K1 inhibition leads to the blood-thinning capabilities. But K1 is easy to get from green leafy vegetables. K2 can be a little bit more difficult to get, and that’s where we have to reach again to the animal products to get quality K2 in our systems. But a lot of times it is beneficial to supplement with K2. I do that for all of my coronary artery disease patients, but I also check intracellular levels of K1 and K2.

So, again, all the magic happens inside of the cells. So, we have the ability now to actually test for intracellular K2, along with intracellular magnesium, and potassium, and all these other things, but I love checking intracellular K2, and that really I can use for people to say, “Hey, this is a sign we gotta increase those K2 levels because it’s critically, critically important.” But, you know, real quick to circle back to the sun, the sun is so much more than just the vitamin D story. Of course, I mean, you know sunshine improves blood flow, sunshine is a natural blood thinner, sunshine for all of our hormone production. Again, sunshine is so critically important. I mean, our skin is a solar panel, is what it is. It’s not just a bag that holds our bones together. It is a solar panel to absorb the power of the sun. The eyes, the retina, the back of the eye contains UVA, UVB receptors for this particular purpose to, again, to harness the power of the sun, to extract all the health benefits.

And, you know, really, I mean, the sun was here before humans were. And any version of the story you choose, whether it’s evolutionary, biblical, whatever it may be, the sun was here first. And we evolved in sleep cycles, of course, where there’s light and there’s darkness. When there’s light, that’s the sun. When there’s darkness, we should be sleeping. And really, it just comes down to a common sense thing. I mean, like my eight-year-old can reiterate all these topics. Number one, he has heard it from since the day he was born, but again, he can, you know, it’s just common sense behaviors

Katie: For sure. So, when you hear about vitamin K, you also often hear about calcium in the same sentence. How do things like calcium and magnesium come into play when we’re talking cardiovascular health?

Dr. Wolfson: Well, you know, calcium, essentially, calcium causes muscles to contract, and that includes heart muscle and blood vessel muscles. Magnesium causes them to relax. So, typically, I don’t think calcium is ever really a major problem. I think we get plenty of it, you know, in our food, and especially if we eat quality seafood, and we eat things like sardines and anchovies that contain bones, that contain high sources of calcium. So, I’m a big fan of the small seafoods. And then again, getting calcium from vegetables as well, but magnesium is a critical nutrient of course. And so many people are magnesium-deficient and especially, you know, listeners that may have issues with palpitations, skip beats, but, I mean, but magnesium is involved in hundreds of different enzymatic functions and really having adequate, you know, intake of magnesium is so important. And one of my favorite foods for that, of course, is avocado. Avocado is just loaded with magnesium, loaded with potassium, loaded with vitamins and minerals. So, as far as plants go, you know, you’ll get high source of magnesium there. Raw cacao actually as well, the, you know, the bean or seed that goes on to make chocolate when you add sugar or dairy to make milk chocolates. But I love eating raw cacao is loaded with magnesium, and that’s another super heart-healthy hack that we do.

Katie: I love that. And that’s a piece of advice I give to women as well with the magnesium is that it’s, you know, a lot of women will say they crave chocolate right before their period starts and chocolate, especially if it’s high-quality chocolate, can be a great source of magnesium and magnesium can help ease things like PMS and cramps. So, that’s a great way to add, you know, raw cacao like you said, to a smoothie or to something can help mitigate PMS symptoms as well.

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Another factor that, of course, is often talked about when it comes to heart health is exercise. And there’s a lot of data that regular exercise can improve cardiovascular outcomes, but then I’ve also seen studies that say, for instance, marathon runners are actually at higher risk of certain cardiovascular problems. So, I’m curious both as a doctor and then also, what do you do in your own life when it comes to exercise?

Dr. Wolfson: That’s an awesome question. And once again, yeah, I mean, it’s very interesting in the sense that what happens with marathon runners. So, I used to run marathons when I would watch other people run marathons. Here’s what marathon runners do. They run a mile and then they have a power bar, and then they run another mile and they have a packet of goo, and then they run another mile and they have a banana. So, you know, what happens is that as you are physically active, you’re generating a lot of free radicals. You’re generating a lot of oxidative stress. And if you don’t have adequate antioxidants, your body is becoming damaged from that behavior. So, instead of running a mile and having a power bar, again, and you gotta make sure you’re giving your body good anti-oxidants with it. So, that’s why, you know, greens drinks and eating green leafy vegetables, or citrus containing high levels of vitamin C are important. Omega-3 from seafood, of course, is a tremendous antioxidant, very important there. Having good quality cholesterol-consumption in the foods, in the fats, again, are of critical importance as well for those that are physically active.

Now, here’s the thing, Katie. I’m totally against getting on the treadmill and running for 45 minutes while you’re watching CNN, or Fox, or whatever your poison is. You’re inside, you’re in an EMF bomb environment, you’re under the artificial fluorescent lights, and then they’re cleaning off the treadmills with some kind of toxic cleaning agents. So, I hate the idea of exercising indoors unless it’s in your own house. If you have to go to the gym, do it sporadically. Get outside. Get outside. No matter where you live, you can get outside. There’s no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing. So, if you need to gear up, invest in good quality clothing. But you know, we live in Colorado. I mountain bike, I stand up paddleboard, I kayak, we go for hikes, I go horseback riding. In the wintertime, I ski, I ski skinning where we ski up the mountain and then ski down, I do cross country. Again, I snow bike. Get outside and be physically active. That is, again, not only are you getting outside, getting in the fresh air, but you’re also getting sunshine exposure too. And even in the wintertime, there’s gonna be some value to that. So, that’s my take on physical activity. Do it, do it outside, and then compliment that with healthy food choices.

Katie: I love that. Yeah. I think that’s such great advice. And I noticed… I think for years, I, kinda, bought into the exercise idea that cardio, or at the gym, or whatever you can multitask and listen to a podcast and I hated it. And I recently started hanging out with people… my kids are training in pole vaulting, and I’ve been hanging out there and just focusing on things like weights, and sprinting, and climbing, and fun things. And it’s been, not only so much more fun, but I’ve noticed big changes in my health as well, and muscle tone and even in labs. And so, I love that advice. Get outside and do things that are fun as well.

To circle back, I have been making notes of a few quick questions. You mentioned that caffeine intake can increase your resting heart rate. What are your thoughts when it comes to caffeine intake in general? Because certainly, for a lot of the moms listening, caffeine intake is a regular part of our lives and we definitely would not want to necessarily give up our daily coffee. But when it comes to heart health, is there a healthy amount and what do we need to know about caffeine?

Dr. Wolfson: Yeah. That’s a great point, but let me just real quick, if I can finish that because you did actually make the point about pole vaulting and stuff like that. And I forgot to mention. You know, building muscle mass is more important than running marathons. So, squats, lunges, pull-ups, push-ups, building muscle mass is very, very important, undoubtedly. And if we’re gonna exercise in the morning, of course, we need that cup of coffee, or two, or three, to get us going in the morning. Now, when I first met my wife, she was very anti coffee because I was born and raised on coffee. And she said, it leads to adrenal fatigue, it leads to gastrointestinal issues, it leads to leaky gut. And I said, “Okay. I understand what you’re saying. It makes sense.” And for a while, I gave up coffee, but one of my best friends is the head of cancer at a big institution on the East Coast, and he was always sending me all these different studies and links to the benefits of drinking coffee. And, you know the evidence is pretty irrefutable that coffee drinkers do very well. And that’s people that drink Folgers and, you know, like McDonald’s coffee. Let alone, if you’re drinking some of the best organic coffees in the world that don’t have mold and organic, you know, again, don’t have the pesticides and the chemicals in there, and because coffee is a very, very, very fantastic source of antioxidants.

So, again, you talk about how we generate free radicals in our daily life and, of course, we’re more physically active. Well, how do you combat those free radicals? You do so with antioxidants and coffee is a tremendous, tremendous antioxidant, especially when you’re getting the good quality sources of that. So, the cardiology literature on coffee and caffeine consumption looks to be very good. Coffee drinkers have a lower risk of heart attack, stroke, atrial fibrillation, cardiac death, but here’s the thing too. And I know you’re into you know, genetics and whatnot is that the way that we metabolize caffeine can, according to data, have an impact on heart health as well. So, if we are slow metabolizers of caffeine, and those people, we typically know who we are, you know, where, again, you get very jittery, you don’t like the way you feel on caffeine. Those people tend to naturally avoid it, the slow metabolizers. If you’re a fast metabolizer of caffeine, it actually markedly lowers your cardiovascular risk. So, that could be a role where genetic testing comes in, but overall, it appears that that coffee is heart-healthy. And, you know, finally, again, if you’re a woman out there and you’re suffering from palpitations, you know, flip-flops, PACs, PVCs, skipped heartbeats, something’s not right, you may wanna look into avoiding caffeine and see if it clears up your symptoms.

Katie: Awesome. Another topic of mine that I would love your take on is sauna use because I really got into this after visiting Finland. And the literature is pretty robust and pretty amazing. If you look at the, kinda, metadata, they’re saying sauna use can reduce all-cause mortality, and especially there’s a lot of studies with cardiovascular risk factors showing that it can lower blood pressure, also can help with resting heart rate over time, but I’ve seen some studies that claim even a pretty big reduction in overall cardiovascular disease and death risk. To me, it’s an easy exercise. I’m a medic and it’s a lot of fun to sit in a sauna with friends and just sweat. But I’m curious what your take is on the literature and if this is something that you incorporate in your own life.

Dr. Wolfson: Yes, I do. I mean, I think that the literature clearly supports, you know, sauna use. You know, fortunately, you know, when you start talking about the things that we’re talking about, you know, whether a sauna, or it’s red light, or all these other, kinda, natural therapies, again, the medical research is not nearly as robust, of course, as the pharmaceutical data because that’s where the money is made in the pharmaceuticals. It’s not made in telling people to use a sauna, but you’re right. The literature is very clear that sauna users, people that get sauna four to seven times per week have like a, you know, 75% lower risk of cardiovascular death and heart attack compared to people who use a sauna less than once per week. And that, again, that data comes out of Finland.

I’m a big fan of sauna use, I love sweat saunas, I love to sweat. I think it’s a great detoxification. I think our ancestors were constantly sweating and now, most people never sweat. So, I think there’s value in the sweat aspect of it and detoxification, but I think also the components of infrared, whether it’s far medium and near-infrared, I think are all beneficial. I think it can be a communal thing, it can be a family thing as well as far as sauna is concerned. So, I do incorporate it into my life. I do some more, Katie, in the wintertime. When I’m not getting that natural sun exposure in the summertime, I don’t use the sauna very often. And then finally, I’ll say this and, you know, I’ll be interested in your take. I’m sure it’s similar to mine. When you’re in the sauna, it’s really a time to have conversations, time to have inner peace, to meditate, to have, you know, constructive thinking time, if you will. I don’t mind listening to music on the outside, but it’s like, you know, I’ve seen people take their iPad in the sauna, cell phone in the sauna, even reading a book or a magazine in the sauna. The problem is that the sauna heats up those materials and now they start to outgas, and now, you think you’re detoxing while you’re breathing in the glues and the materials from that book or a magazine. I would encourage people again, just when you go into the sauna, take a glass of your high-quality water, take in your organic towel, that is, you know, washed with organic laundry products, natural laundry products, and yeah, just have some good quality thinking time.

Katie: I’m very much in agreement with you on that. And I think the sauna, one of the benefits as well is that it’s a time of hopefully relaxation, like you said, and the body going into a parasympathetic state. And so, I think even, you know, trying to read, or learn, or focus on something can keep you from getting as relaxed as possible. I think what I saw in Finland that really struck me was the sauna, of course, has health benefits just based on the heat and everything we studied, but I really think a lot of those benefits come from it being a time of community and relationship for them, and getting in the sauna with other people and having great conversations. I think that often is an underestimated factor when it comes to overall health. And if we look at the data of blue zones and just data, in general, we know that having really good high-quality relationships and having a strong community around you are really big predictors of overall health. In fact, I’ve seen even some studies that would say those stand up against almost any other health factor you have. So, I think if it’s possible, making sauna time a time for family, time together, or time with people in your community, or that you have relationships with, I think that’s a whole benefit of its own that really can’t be discounted

Dr. Wolfson: Yeah. Katie, I mean, if you don’t mind, I’d like to expand on that as well. And those are fantastic points, the sense of community and no time is this more important than right now, right? I mean, during COVID, while everybody’s on lockdown, everybody’s quitting, you know, supposed to be stuck inside of their house and they’re in isolation. The cardiology ramifications of that are absolutely, you know, cataclysmic. We know from the cardiology literature that social isolation markedly increases your risk of death. And again, people are socially isolated before. It’s now worse than ever. And again, losing that community bonding, the importance of hug, the importance of, you know, physical contact with one another, or like you said, being born into the communities, you know, Katie, let me throw this out to you as well as long as I’m talking about it.

What do you think about what’s happening to these children now that are born into the world and all they are seeing right now is they are stuck at home with mom. Maybe dad is around once in a while because dad’s off at work. So, now the baby who was supposed to be born into the tribe, supposed to be born into the community like all of the other humans, and all the other monkeys, and primates, were now, they’re around all these other contacts. Now, they’re stuck at home in social isolation. All they see is mom. And then when they go out into the world, all they see is other people wearing masks. I think that the long-term, again, consequences of this are just going to be, again, just catastrophic. And it just so sad for these young children, for these babies being born into this world. And it’s really horrible. It’s horrible on so many levels.

Katie: I fully agree with you, especially just what we know of early childhood brain development and how seeing facial expressions and mirroring them is so important for brain development. I think you’re right. Babies aren’t gonna get enough inputs and they’re not gonna get enough exposure to a wide variety of people that should be in their tribe. And I actually… I don’t know what the solution is, but I’m hoping that maybe this will spark a return to more authentic real types of tribes because for so long, a lot of those things feel like they’ve moved online, or digital, or have gotten just pushed to the wayside where the tribe became maybe just the school environment or, you know, the social groups that came from that for a lot of families and for a lot of kids. And I’m hoping now that isolation has, kind of, been forced for a while, that we will get back to those small, real-life communities of people that we live nearby and have common interests with and can trust. And then we actually can build stronger communities over time because like you said, I think we’re gonna see some really drastic and dangerous outcomes from this.

Dr. Wolfson: Yeah. I mean, and, you know, and I think, you know, one thing that we, you know, really haven’t touched on at all as it pertains to cardiovascular health and wellness. And again, everybody loves to debate, you know, the food story. Is food any more important than sunshine? We said no. Is food any more important than sleep? Definitely not. Is food any more important than physical activity? Probably not. Is food any more important than environmental toxins? Environmental toxins are pretty darn nasty according to the medical literature. But the more that I learn, the more that I live, the more that I see, the more patients that I see, I think the number one risk factor in any and all disease is stress. Stress, fear, anxiety, which now, are at an all-time high is I think the biggest risk factor for all disease.

And I think the medical literature truly does support that. Again, stress is linked to hypertension, linked to heart attack risk, stroke risk, cardiomyopathy risk, atrial fibrillation. And those are just the cardiology diagnoses aside from, you know, cancer, and brain diseases, and stuff like that. But as we are getting pushed into stress at an all-time high it’s something that again, it needs to be controlled. And, you know, as you said, I do hope I can, I can hope that the end of all of this again, is about how we rebuild our communities, but we’re being driven so far into isolation from one another. Wow. I don’t know. I don’t know how the communities are gonna start to repair themselves after this one when everyone is gonna be now, conditioned to socially distance, and that if someone sneezes in a grocery store, that it’s time to evacuate the store. Stress is at an all-time high and we’re gonna see the ramifications of it.

You know, Katie, real quick people, you know, with all the mass unemployment that’s going on right now because of shutdowns and lockdowns, people that are unemployed have a 500% higher risk of committing suicide, but they also have a 280% higher risk of dying of cardiovascular disease while they’re unemployed. So, the mass amount of unemployment that is going on right now, again, is going to lead to so many different downstream problems. Katie, my personal opinion on this would have been whatever virus this is, let it blow through the country. People are gonna get sick, some people will die, people always die, it does happen, but again, I think that the consequences of shutting down the country are far worse than letting this blow through our country. And really it’s a time to highlight everything we’re talking about, about real health and wellness. It’s not about isolation, it’s not about wearing masks. It’s about, again, keeping your body bulletproof by eating the right foods, living the right lifestyle, thinking the right thoughts. That is how we are going to win the game, win the war, whatever it is. That’s how we’re gonna win to stay healthy for the long-term.

Katie: I agree with you on that. I think I always go back to, kind of, the stoic idea of what are the things that are actually within our control that we have the power to change? And when it comes to health outcomes, we always have the ability to choose our own inputs, our own actions, and to do things that improve our own health. And that’s always been the case and doing that has actually always been good for society as well, because it reduces things like heart disease risk and cancer risk, which have a big cost for society, but now more acutely, it can help… we know there are certain things we can do to support our body that can help our ability to withstand viruses and respiratory illnesses. And I’m right there with you. It’s, kind of, unprecedented that we’ve seen a complete societal shutdown for any type of disease. And it’s, kind of, surprising to me how rapidly that happens and how so many people seem to have just, sort of, accepted that. And certainly, it’s a very controversial topic.

My personal take is that I’m not worried about the virus itself and I would gladly get it and get it over with and contribute to that. I think you’re right. I think we have to look at total harm minimization, not just total cases of the virus. And when we look at what we’ve done to the economy and the potential cost long-term to the economy of about now $10 million per patient who’s actually had COVID, we’re not actually doing very much to look at total harm minimization. And I think we’re gonna be dealing with the aftermath economically for an extremely long time than when you’re looking at something on a nationwide level. You can’t discount how important that is and how that’s gonna affect mental health and other health outcomes over the long-term. So, again, I don’t know what the solution is, but I think it’s something we need a lot of great minds working on solutions for right now because it’s, like I said, it’s completely unprecedented.

Dr. Wolfson: Well, I mean, you know, real quick, I mean, I think my solution is, you know, whatever it is, let it blow through. I mean, you know, let everybody gets sick, or let everybody be exposed to this virus. I mean, certainly, I mean, not to go in other directions here. I’m not afraid of any natural virus that would occur. I’m not afraid of natural bacteria, fungus, virus. Obviously, manmade viruses are different conversations, but again, we keep ourselves bulletproof. And as we keep ourselves bulletproof by doing all the things that we, you know, that we’ve discussed, that we, you know, that you have on your website and the other, you know, podcast interviews that you’ve done, you keep yourself bulletproof. That’s how we’re gonna survive.

You know, I love showing patients, you know, I talk about the movie “Cast Away” with Tom Hanks. So, Tom Hanks winds up on the remote island, and no matter what you think about Tom Hanks as an actor, as a person, or whatever, keep that aside, but think this about the, you know, the movie “Cast Away.” And he works for FedEx, he’s in a plane crash, he winds up on the remote island. And on the remote Island, he goes to sleep with the sundown. He awakes before the sunrise, watches the sunrise, spends the day in and out of the sun. Oh, by the way, he’s wearing a loincloth. Any of us who showed up on the island, we would just be running around naked, which is how our ancestors did it. And there was no chemicals, there’s no pollution, there was no, WiFi, cell phone towers, EMF. He’s physically active on the island. The only thing that he suffers from on the island, as we mentioned before, is loneliness. Social isolation is again so bad on so many different levels. That’s the only issue there.

So, the point I’m trying to make is that if we were all born onto the island, no matter what our genetics are, genetics mean nothing on the island. If we live the Island, like again, like Tom Hanks did, and we lived that, kinda, lifestyle, we’re bulletproof. We’re not having heart attacks, we’re not having strokes, we’re not having cancer, we’re not gonna be impacted by any kind of virus. We will truly live as long as we wanna live. And that maybe 120, 130. I don’t like to put numbers on longevity. I truly believe people can live as long as they wanna live when they stay happy and well, but that’s what’s gonna protect us going forward. All the tools we need are inside of our body. It’s not gonna be injected, it’s not gonna be a, you know, through pharmaceutical, whatever it is, whatever this virus is, let it blow through the country, and let’s move on because what we’ve done is damage that we cannot even comprehend. And in the future, we will see how, how ravaging the effects are.

Katie: I agree with you. And I, kinda, believe we’ve already flown through an hour of time. I think we’ll have to do a round two one day if you’re willing because there’s so many more topics that we can talk about. But a couple questions I love to ask toward the end of an interview are, if there’s a book or a number of books that have really influenced your life and if so, what they are and why?

Dr. Wolfson: I love this question. Because obviously, I’ve been asked this question, you know, before. I do love to do a lot of reading. Obviously, a lot of my stuff is now medical research, but, you know, one of the first books that I read about just, kinda, like common sense about the way to eat was “Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” by Weston Price. He wrote that book in the 1920s as he traveled around the world with his wife by boat, looking at how tribal people lived and why that was so healthy. So, I loved that particular book. It’s really a good foundational point to common-sense eating. So, “Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.” I liked the book “Outwitting the Devil” by Napoleon Hill. That was actually his second book. His first book, of course, is world-famous “Think and Grow Rich.” But the second book that he wrote was only released about 10, 12 years ago, finally released by his family because the concept of the devil was very very taboo at the time in the 1930s. Well, essentially, it’s all about how the devil is anything that interferes with what you’re supposed to do.

So, the devil could be, like, just like rummaging around on Facebook. Like, how are you gonna change the world and save the world, Dr. Jack Wolfson, if you’re on social media just for fun or “relaxation.” Or maybe you’re in the market for a new car, and you do all this research on the new car. Well, yeah, it’s important to know what kind of car you wanna get, but again, at some point, again, it distracts you from what your main task is. So, that’s called “Outwitting the Devil.” And then personally, I love anything written by David Icke, I-C-K-E. Controversial to say the least, but a lot of thought about, kind of, why we are here, how we exist, what we are on a quantum level, all that stuff is exciting. And then finally, let me say anything by Ayn Rand. Love reading anything that she wrote.

Katie: Awesome. I will put links to all of those in the show notes and “Outwitting the Devil” is a new recommendation. I look forward to checking that one out. I’ll also make sure that we link to your website and your writing so that people can find and stay in touch with you. But any parting advice for listeners or most important steps you would leave them for their health or for life balance in general?

Dr. Wolfson: Well, I think, you know, just those things that we talked about. You know, some of what I guess all the different S’s and S is sunshine, and sleep, and seafood, and then again, the stress factor as well. I mean, just, you know, find your happy, happy people. I believe, Katie, truly happy people don’t get sick. I believe that that happiness finding your happy, whatever it may be. So, maybe that involves relationship changes, maybe it involves career choice changes, or locations of where you live, or whatever it may be. Really work to find your happy because again, it’s cliche, we only go around once and you better be happy in this lifetime. So, again, find your happy, please.

Katie: I love that. That’s a perfect place to end. Like I said, I would love to do a round two one day. I appreciate your time. Thanks so much for sharing today. This was fascinating.

Dr. Wolfson: Anytime. Thank you so much, Katie.

Katie: And thanks as always to all of you for listening and for sharing your most valuable asset with us, your time. We’re both so grateful that you did, and I hope that you will join me again on the next episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”
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