Fit2Fat2Fit With Drew Manning | Wellness Mama Podcast

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This is a lot of fun and I’m talking to someone who has gained 70 70 and is about to do it again. Drew Manning is the best-selling author of the New York Times book “Foot 2 Feet 2 Feet”. And he is known for his experience that went viral online where he took advantage and then lost a lot of weight so he could understand what his personal trainers were doing with the clients and clients with whom he worked. I had to lose weight. For that reason, he was prominent in everything from “Good Morning America” ​​to “Doctor.” Oz and his experience has become a hit TV show called “Foot to Foot to Foot”, which airs on A&E and Lifetime. We discuss this journey and what gave birth to it, well, because it will do it again on earth, what is lacking in the place of health and fitness, you will be surprised at the answer and why That he would cover 100 miles on earth in 24 hours. . Drew is an interesting man, I think you will really enjoy this event and take some valuable notes from it. So without further ado, let’s join the drive. Attention, welcome. Thanks for coming here

Drew: Katie, thank you so much for putting me on. It is a pleasure.

Katie: I’m excited to talk to you. I know who you are and have been following you for a long time, but I can’t wait to share with you the audience today, in particular, you are most famous for your amazing fitness journey. The goal, I think, is what makes it so extraordinary. So, can you, for those of you who are unfamiliar, tell us the journey behind Foot and Foot to Foot and its story?

Drew: Yes, I would. So, it all started in 2011. I had this crazy idea. But even before that, you know, you have to understand a little bit about my background and why I decided to do it. So, I grew up in a family of 11 brothers and sisters, and we all played sports. So, I played football and wrestling from a very young age. And so, I’ve always been in shape. I’ve always been fit all my life. And then in 2009, he was certified as a trainer. And I was here, someone who had never been overweight in a single day in his life, trying to help people who were overweight all their lives. And there was a clear disconnect and I didn’t understand that it was so difficult for my clients to tell them what to do. I want, “Here’s your meal plan, here’s your workout. Just do it, and it’s not that hard.

And so, as you know, they will have hiccups on the side of the road where they would give something in greed and eat something. And I’ll be like, “Why don’t you just add junk food?” It’s not that difficult. And just go to the gym as I tell you. “And some of my clients said to me, ‘You know, you don’t understand how hard it is for me or for people like us to struggle. And for you, it’s been easy all your life. “And one of my clients at the time was my brother-in-law. And so, I took it to heart. I like, ‘You know what?’ you are right. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for me, right? As you eat less and you exercise and you go to the gym faster, the results come out.

And when he told me, I was like, “You know what? Maybe I need to do something. Maybe I need to learn as a trainer. And that’s why I came up with ideas.” And I started to think about the idea of ​​gaining weight according to purpose. As crazy as it sounds, it was as if a light bulb had gone out of my head and I liked it. That’s when he called for me. Feeling we have ‘Run out of gas’ emotionally. Like, maybe this is what we need to learn. I need to understand what it is like to be overweight. Fit, I couldn’t exercise in six months. So, those were the rules. I ate a standard American diet. I put on 75 pounds of pure fat during that time. And that was the most painful thing I’ve ever done, and I Did one of the hardest things I’ve ever done, but I’ve learned a lot of valuable lessons from it. And so I’ve completely changed the way I look at change and weight loss. Quite different when I look back on it Yes it was I just realized how wrong it was. And so, in a nutshell, this is the kind of story, and that’s why I decided to do Fat to Fat in the background.

Katie: It’s so incredible. I find this interesting. So, you said to gain weight, you didn’t exercise at all and you ate a standard American diet. Were there any guidelines beyond that, such as, did you really have to cook some food yourself or burn a certain number of calories, or did you just choose from a few foods?

Drew: That’s a really good question. So, I didn’t have the goal of daily calorie intake that I need to target. For me, my rules were, I didn’t really go the way of Morgan Springlock in Super Size Me where he ate McDonald’s three times a day straight for 30 days, I felt like most Americans know that fast food is not good for us. Healthy What I wanted to focus on was the everyday foods with which we grew up in the ’70s and’ 80s, which we don’t think is unhealthy for us, maybe some of them. Marketed like health foods for us. So, the highly processed foods that were extremely cheap and affordable are really easy, right? No preparation time. And they taste amazing. Like, I’m not a liar, cinnamon toast crunch was my jam. I like that, eating it every day and just like these hyper-liable foods became so good, it became so much easier to use these foods more.

So, if I could guess, I would probably be eating 4,000 to 5,000 calories a day from one of these highly processed foods. Like I said, they were very cheap. They were very simple. And you know, they’re much cheaper than all the real food. Unfortunately, this is what we have in our country. And he created this vicious cycle by relying on these foods. And so, I lost 75 in 6 months.

Katie: Some of the things that sound amazing are one of the foods you mentioned that are mostly sold to children. So, it’s a pity we’re giving these kids skins, you know, from the beginning, but it makes sense. I’ve often thought, you know, it’s hard to eat vegetables. You really have to make an effort. But I also think it’s really interesting because you can learn a lot from the reverse. So, here are the things that will help you gain weight. When they’re trying to lose weight, of course, they don’t want people to do those things. How did you get it over your head? First of all, how did you decide when you have gained so much weight and then when you will start losing again and what did you change then?

Attention: Oh, good question. So, I decided from the start, it would be six months, no matter how much weight I lifted. I was expecting to gain 50 or 60 pounds, but definitely got more shots than that and ended up gaining 75 in 6 months. And the interesting thing was that I wasn’t filling my face. I didn’t feel like I was filling my face with every meal. Like, not every meal was my food challenge. I ate until I was full. And then I waited until I was hungry again and the interesting thing with these foods happened every two hours, I was absolutely hungry and even starving. Be that as it may, you know, I need something right now. And so this, that’s what his food will do to me, this dependent perpetual cycle, almost created in addiction. I always say that this is the real food, at least for me. Otherwise, I would be very sad.

And so, he was an eye opener for me. And then as the journey progressed, obviously the weight was increasing, there was a mental and emotional piece to this whole thing. I definitely want to throw in there because people understand, well, you just eat more calories, you don’t exercise, you get fat on your body. Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me, Looks like BT aint for me either. And that’s where I was really humiliated and I realized how wrong I was. And so, what I like is, you know, my body has been looking a certain way for so long. So, I was the fit guy in my mind, right? My whole life was made in me because I have always been in shape. I’ve always had, you know, for the most part, a six pack and looked lean.

And then when I was overweight, going out in public, it was a lot harder than that because I thought it would happen because I wanted to go to strangers and explain to them that I really Why I was not overweight. And like I had to explain it, like, I wanted to explain to them, “Hey, this is just an experiment. This is my website. You go here; you know, this is before my picture. I It usually feels like, “Because I was so traumatized because, at the time, I was so attached to my body image. And that’s where I finally learned to let go. But it was very difficult for me. Like, my self-confidence worked and of course my confidence worked. And it’s something that made me feel like I needed to look through different glasses.

But anyway, hurry up, you know, to lose weight six months later, that was, I had to have a cold turkey because I had six months to lose it. And so, I knew it was really hard, but I had no idea how hard it would be to eat vegetables and lean meals the day after six months of eating, and you know, it’s healthy. The food that, you know, we usually sleep on to eat super. It sucked so badly. Like, the food didn’t taste as good as I remember. I have a headache. I was in a bad mood. I was in the mood. I was hungry even though I was eating 2,000 calories a day, yet my body almost fought me against me to the point where it finally clicked for me. I like, “These are what my clients are telling me about.”

And to me, all I can say to them is, “Look, you need more power. You need more discipline. It’s not that difficult. Put the junk food down, put the soda down. And for me, a personal trainer experiencing withdrawal symptoms, as powerful as it was, I had no idea that until I went through that experience and my eyes really opened, I knew Didn’t realize how powerful the emotional connection of food really is. And as I said, that’s where I started to empathize with those who are struggling with what I’m experiencing, and I’ve been eating like that for only six months. ۔ And anyway, it was an eye-opening experience. And then as you mentioned, the journey to getting fit was mostly full of meals, mostly like a paleo ash approach, five small meals a day. I did the same thing in 2011, 2012. And this method definitely works. I do something different these days, of course. But this is the method I eventually used to lose weight.

Katie: I love that you mentioned that you were able to see it through the eyes of your clients and also understood that it can be understood in different ways. I wonder if something, in particular, like, do you feel in these events, like, how you are being perceived by others? Because I have been in different sizes for the last 14 years because I had 6 children and thyroid disease and have lost 80 pounds in the last 2 years. And that was one of the things that really struck me, how different I felt as people understood me. And it’s just that it’s hard to describe in words how different their interactions feel.

Attention: Yes, of course. And I have, of course. Those were the moments. I remember once when I was at the grocery store, my shopping cart was clearly full of junk food and I was checking and there were these three women behind me and I was clearly older at the time. There was and I could feel staring, a little bit of them looking at my stomach, they were looking at this shopping cart full of junk food. And I wanted to say to them as badly as, “Hey ladies, I don’t usually eat this food. It’s just an experience like I’m healthy. But in that moment, I really stopped and just let all those feelings of justice sink. I didn’t tell them anything and I just told them, I don’t know if they are judging me or not. . They didn’t tell me anything meaningless or nonsense. I just stared.

And for me, that’s where he clicked. It’s something that my clients are overweight people have to go through on a daily basis where they are viewed differently or judged with them. And you feel or stare at those decisions. And I’ve never felt that way before because I’ve always been in shape. But what I’m going to say here, Katie, and this, you can probably relate to that, I think the justice of older men is different from that of older women in society. I think women are harder to compete with than men. Women are more critical of other women. And I think men can run because they’re so big and big.

So, definitely no one was really rude or mean to me. But I felt my moment and it was one of those moments where instead of trying to convince people, I let it sink in the end. And that’s where, for me, I realized that weight loss change is more mental, emotional than people think. It’s not as easy as eating less and exercising. And that’s why I have no regrets about going through it because I made a better person, made me better, you know, usually where I’m no longer the decisive trainer, thinking looking at other people. رہا ہوں ، “کیوں کیا لوگوں کے پاس بس مرضی کی طاقت نہیں ہے؟ کیوں صرف ان میں نظم و ضبط نہیں ہے؟ ” لیکن میں یہی سوچتا تھا۔ تو ، اسی وجہ سے میں کہتا ہوں ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، مجھے اپنے کئے پر کوئی افسوس نہیں ہے۔

کیٹی: جب آپ وزن کم کرنے کی کوشش کرنے لگے تو کیا آپ کسی غیر متوقع ٹھوکر میں پڑ گئے؟

متوجہ: ہاں۔ اور یہ ، سب سے پہلے ، اس کی پہلی منتقلی کی جا رہی تھی کہ یہ کتنا سخت ہوگا اور میرا جسم کتنا برا ہے ، جیسے ، میں سمجھتا تھا کہ میرا جسم میرا حلیف ہوگا۔ ایک لحاظ سے ، میرا جسم یہ کہتے ہوئے میرے خلاف لڑ رہا تھا ، “نہیں ، ہم ان کھانے سے زیادہ چاہتے ہیں جو آپ نے ہمیں چھ ماہ تک کھلایا۔” جیسے ، میرا جسم جیسا چاہتا تھا۔ اور یہ میرے لئے اتنا دلچسپ تھا کہ وہ کتنا طاقت ور تھا۔ اور پھر جیسے ہی میں نے وزن کم کرنا شروع کیا ، یہاں میں علم ، نظم و ضبط اور ذاتی تربیت دینے والا ایک ذاتی ٹرینر تھا ، اور ہر ہفتے مجھے ہفتہ وار چیک ان کرنا پڑتا تھا اور وزن کرنا پڑتا تھا۔ اور ہفتوں میں جہاں میرا وزن بڑھتا تھا اور میں نے نہیں کیا۔ اس کے لئے کوئی وضاحت نہیں ہے۔ اور وہاں ہفتوں تھے جہاں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، میں نے کوئی پیشرفت نہیں کی۔ اور میں نے اپنے کھانے کے منصوبے پر سب کچھ کیا ، بلاشبہ میں نے اپنی تمام ورزشیں کیں ، اور واقعتا just میرے پاس کسی اور کے لئے کوئی وضاحت نہیں تھی ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، ارے ، کبھی کبھی یہ قطعی نہیں ہوتا ہے جیسا کہ ہمارے خیال میں یہ ہے۔

اور میں نے سوچا کہ یہ واقعتا powerful میرے لئے بھی طاقتور ہے ، کیونکہ ، آپ جانتے ہو ، میرے پاس کلائنٹوں کو یہ کہنے سے پہلے رکھنا ہوگا ، “ڈریو ، میں کھانے کا منصوبہ بنا رہا ہوں ، میں ورزش کر رہا ہوں۔ اور میں صرف ، میں پیمانے پر ترقی نہیں دیکھ رہا ہوں۔ اور بوڑھا میرے کی طرح تھا ، “ٹھیک ہے ، آپ شاید یہاں یا وہاں کچھ چھپ رہے ہو ،” آپ جانتے ہو ، اگر وہ واقعی یہ کام کر رہے ہیں تو شبہ ہے۔ اور یہاں میں یہ کر رہا تھا اور اب بھی جدوجہد کر رہا ہوں۔ اور اس طرح ، یہ واقعی آنکھ کھولنے اور میرے لئے طاقتور تھا وزن کم ہونا لکیری نہیں ہے۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، آپ اپنی مطلوبہ ساری کیلوری گنتی اور میکرو گنتی کرسکتے ہیں ، جب بات پیمانے پر آتی ہے تو ، یہ ہمیشہ اس طریقے سے ختم نہیں ہوتا ہے جس طرح ہم چاہتے ہیں۔ خاص طور پر اگر آپ اپنے آپ کو دن میں ایک پوائنٹ کے مقابلے دو گھنٹے بعد میں وزن کرتے ہیں تو ، آپ کا وزن مختلف ہوگا۔ یہ ہمیشہ اتار چڑھاؤ ہوتا ہے۔

اور اس طرح ، میرے لئے ، میں عام طور پر پیمانے کا بہت بڑا پرستار نہیں ہوں۔ مجھے پیمانے سے نفرت ہے ، لیکن ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، میں جانتا ہوں کہ ہمارا معاشرہ اب بھی اسے پیمائش کی ایک شکل کے طور پر استعمال کرتا ہے ، لیکن مجھے لگتا ہے کہ اس سے بہتر پیمائش کا کوئی دوسرا طریقہ موجود نہیں ہے۔ لیکن ہاں ، میں نے ٹھوکروں سے ٹکر ماری تھی اور اس سفر کے دوران پلیٹائوس پڑا تھا جس کا مقابلہ کرنا پڑا تھا۔ اور یہی وجہ ہے کہ ، میرے نزدیک ، وزن کم کرنے کی تبدیلی لوگوں کے خیال سے کہیں زیادہ ذہنی ، جذباتی ہے۔ کاش یہ اتنا ہی آسان ہوتا جتنا صرف کم کھانا اور ورزش کرنا اور پھر عروج پر ، جادوئی طور پر ، آپ پتلی ہو۔ یہ اس سے کہیں زیادہ پیچیدہ ہے۔

کیٹی: بالکل۔ اور میں ایک عورت کے نقطہ نظر کی طرح جانتا ہوں ، یہ وہ بات ہے جو میں اب خواتین کو یاد دلاتا ہوں ، خاص طور پر اگر آپ جنون کے ساتھ اپنا وزن دیکھ رہے ہیں ، عام طور پر ، اگر آپ کے تمام ہارمون وہیں بھی ہوں جہاں وہ بالکل ایک مہینے کے دوران سمجھے ہوں۔ ، آپ پانی پر مبنی 10 پاؤنڈ اور جو آپ کھا چکے ہیں اس میں مختلف ہوسکتے ہیں اور ہارمونز اور تمام قسم کے عوامل ، اور یہ بری بات نہیں ہے۔ یہ دراصل نارمل ہے۔ اور مجھے یہ سبق بھی اسکیل کے ساتھ سیکھنا پڑا ، اور دوسری چیزوں پر بھی اپنی توجہ مرکوز کرنا سیکھنا تھا ، جیسے طاقت اور اس طرح کہ میں زمین سے کتنا وزن اٹھا سکتا ہوں ، نہ کہ کتنا وزن پیمانے پر تھا اور جیسے چیزیں۔ جب کہ میں اس کے وسط میں تھا اس وقت تک دوسرے مثبت میٹرکس کو ٹریک کرنا۔ میں جاننا چاہتا ہوں کہ جب آپ نے چھ مہینے کے بعد تربیت حاصل کرنے کے بعد آپ کی تربیت میں اسباق کا ترجمہ کیا تھا تو ، کیا آپ لوگوں کے ساتھ بات چیت کرنے کے انداز میں کوئی فرق محسوس کرتے ہیں یا آپ کو ان کے بارے میں مزید حکمت عملی فراہم کرنے کی ضرورت ہے کیوں کہ ایسا کیوں نہیں ہے مرضی کے طور پر آسان ہے یا ان چیزوں کو توڑنا؟

متوجہ: ہاں ، اتنا ، بہت کچھ۔ اس نے یقینی طور پر تبدیل کردیا کہ میں نے لوگوں سے کیسے رابطہ کیا۔ تو ، ایک حوالہ تھا جو مجھے پسند ہے۔ اس میں کہا گیا ہے ، “کسی کو اس کی پرواہ نہیں ہے کہ آپ کتنا جانتے ہو جب تک کہ وہ یہ نہ جان لیں کہ آپ کی کتنی دیکھ بھال ہے۔” اور میرے نزدیک ، اس پورے تجربات سے گزرنے کے بعد ، فٹ سے موٹاپے تک یہی سب کچھ ہے۔ ہاں ، آپ کو دنیا میں ساری معلومات ہوسکتی ہیں ، آپ کو دنیا میں ساری سند حاصل ہوسکتی ہے ، جسم میں کیا ہوتا ہے اس کی سائنس کو سمجھیں۔ لیکن لوگوں کے لئے ، زیادہ تر لوگوں کے ل they ، وہ واقعی اس کی پرواہ نہیں کرتے ہیں کہ آپ کیا جانتے ہیں ، یا آپ کے پاس جو علم ہے ، آپ کے پاس موجود اسناد اس وقت تک محسوس نہیں کرتے ہیں کہ آپ ان سے متعلق ہوسکتے ہیں اور ان کی سطح پر آسکتے ہیں اور سمجھتے ہیں کہ وہ کہاں آرہے ہیں۔ سے اور اسی جگہ پر ہمدردی ، مجھے لگتا ہے ، فٹنس انڈسٹری میں کافی بات نہیں کی گئی ہے اور یہ میرے لئے ہے ، جس پر میں کوشش کرتا ہوں اور اس پر توجہ مرکوز کرتا ہوں ، پہلے ہمدردی اور افہام و تفہیم کی جگہ سے موکل کی طرح کسی کی بات سننے کی بجائے آتی ہے۔ تنقید کا جواب دیں یا درست یا جج۔ یہ واقعی سمجھنے کے لئے سن رہا ہے۔

اور مجھے لگتا ہے کہ اگر آپ واقعی سمجھنے کے لئے سنیں تو ، آپ یقینی طور پر ان کی جدوجہد سے اتنا بہتر سے متعلق ہوسکتے ہیں۔ اور پھر مجھے ایسا لگتا ہے جیسے وہ آپ کو سننے کے لئے زیادہ راضی ہوں گے ایک بار جب انھیں محسوس ہوتا ہے کہ آپ ان کی پرواہ کرتے ہیں اور یہ سمجھتے ہو کہ وہ ان کا انصاف کرنے کی بجائے کم سے کم ، کہاں سے آرہے ہیں۔ اور اسی طرح ، میرے لئے ، اس کو ذہنی ، جذباتی پہلو پر زیادہ مدد کے ساتھ کرنا پڑتا ہے۔ لہذا ، وہ خود سے بہتر ورژن پر کام کر رہے ہیں ، حالانکہ وہ اب کون ہیں کے ساتھ زیادہ خوشی محسوس کرنے میں مدد کرنے کے لئے نکات ، چالیں ، ہیکس۔

تو ، ہاں ، وزن کم کرنے کا ایک جسمانی پہلو موجود ہے اور ہمیشہ ہوگا۔ یقینا It یہ کم کیلوری کھا رہا ہے ، اور آپ کے جسم کو زیادہ منتقل کرتا ہے۔ لیکن میں ذہنی جذباتی پہلو کی طرح محسوس کرتا ہوں ، اسی جگہ پر لوگ اس جینے کی جدوجہد کرتے رہتے ہیں۔ اور صحت اور تندرستی کے بارے میں ان کا تاثر اس قدر تناؤ کا شکار ہے کہ وہ سمجھتے ہیں کہ اگر وہ نتائج حاصل کریں تب ہی وہ کامیاب ہوں گے۔ لہذا ، میں صرف کامیاب ہوں ، میں صحت مند کھانے اور ورزش کرنے کا یہ عمل صرف اس صورت میں کروں گا اگر مجھے نتائج ملیں اور وہیں جہاں ہمارے پاس پیچھے ہے۔

لہذا ، اگر میں ان کی مدد کرسکتا ہوں کہ ان کے تاثرات کو تبدیل کرنے کے لئے آسان تدبیروں ، چالوں اور ہیکس سے ، جو انھیں نتائج کے باوجود عمل سے پیار کرنے میں مدد کرتا ہے تو ، نتائج وقت کے ساتھ ساتھ اپنی دیکھ بھال کرتے رہتے ہیں کیونکہ آپ مستقل طور پر طرز زندگی گزارتے ہیں اور جب آپ خود سے نفرت کے مقابلہ میں خود سے محبت کرنے والے مقام سے آئے ہیں کیونکہ اگر آپ خود سے محبت کرتے ہیں تو ، آپ خود ہی اپنے ساتھ سلوک کرنا چاہتے ہیں۔ آپ خود کو صحت مند کھانا کھلانے والے ہیں۔ آپ ہر روز اپنے جسم کو حرکت دینے والے ہیں کیونکہ یہ آپ کو اچھا لگتا ہے۔ اس لئے نہیں کہ اس کے اختتام پر ایک انعام ہے اور ممکنہ طور پر پتلی ہونے یا ایک دن چھ پیک رکھنے کا وعدہ ہے ، یہی وجہ ہے کہ ہمارے یہاں فٹنس انڈسٹری میں پیچھے کی طرف ہے۔

لوگ اس وقت تک کسی عمل کے ل to تیار رہتے ہیں جب تک کہ اس وقت کے نتائج سامنے آجائیں ، اگر وہ اس وقت میں نہیں آتے ہیں تو ، ہمارے خیال میں ، ٹھیک ہے ، آخر کیا بات ہے؟ آپ جانتے ہیں ، اور یہاں کوئی نتیجہ نہیں ہے ، تو کیوں کوشش کریں۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، میں غیر صحت بخش کھانا کھانے اور غیر صحت مند طرز زندگی گزارنے سے بھی یہی نتائج حاصل کرسکتا ہوں ، اور یہی وہ مقام ہے جہاں ہمارے پاس پیچھے کی طرف ہے۔ لہذا ، اگر میں ان دماغی اور جذباتی نکات ، چالوں اور ہیکس کے ذریعہ لوگوں کے بارے میں اپنے خیال کو تبدیل کرنے میں مدد کرسکتا ہوں ، اور اس کا خاص طور پر میرا کیا مطلب ہے ، اور میں نے میرے اور بہت سارے دوسرے لوگوں کے لئے کیا کام دیکھا ہے تو وہ مراقبہ جیسی چیزیں ہیں یا کچھ لمحے میں موجود ہونے کا ، ذہن سازی کا عمل۔ لہذا ، اس سے زیادہ واقف ہوں گے کہ آپ اپنے جسم میں کیا ڈال رہے ہیں اور آپ اسے اپنے جسم میں کیوں ڈال رہے ہیں اور پھر مثبت اثبات بھی۔

میں نے دیکھا ہے کہ یہ لوگوں کے ل really واقعی اچھ workا کام کرتا ہے جہاں وہ خود پر اعتماد کرنا شروع کردیتے ہیں۔ انہیں یہ خود اعتماد ہونا شروع ہوتا ہے کہ وہ جانتے ہیں کہ ان کے پاس واقعتا پہلے کبھی نہیں تھا اور پھر شکریہ جریدہ۔ اور پھر شکریہ جریدہ کیا کرتا ہے وہ اس چیز کو ڈھونڈنے کے ل wire دماغ کو تار تار کرنے میں مدد کرتا ہے جس کے لئے وہ اس وقت کے شکر گزار ہیں جہاں چیزیں کامل نہیں ہیں ، ان کا جسم وہ نہیں ہے جہاں وہ بننا چاہتے ہیں ، لیکن وہ ‘ پھر بھی ہر ایک دن چیزوں کے لئے شکر گزار ہوں۔ اور انھوں نے اپنے دماغ کو ان چیزوں کی تلاش کرنے ، ان کے لئے مشکور ہونے کی تربیت دی ہے۔ اور پھر وہ اس سفر کے دوران یہ کہنے کے بجائے اور زیادہ پورے ہوجاتے ہیں ، ٹھیک ہے ، ایک دن جب مجھے یہ جسم مل جائے گا ، ایک دن جب وزن میں کمی آجائے گی ، ایک دن جب میرے پاس اتنا پیسہ ہوگا ، اور پھر میں خوش ہوں گا ، تب میں خود سے پیار کروں گا ، لیکن یہ اس طرح کام نہیں کرتا ہے۔ آپ اپنی زندگی کا بہت کچھ خود سے جنگ میں ضائع کرتے ہیں ، اپنے آپ سے نفرت کرتے ہیں ، اپنے آپ کو زیادہ پیٹ دیتے ہیں اور آپ کو اپنی پوری زندگی کا احساس ہوتا ہے کہ آپ نے اسی طرح زندگی گزاری ہے۔ اگر آپ نے کچھ مختلف کرنے کی کوشش کی اور سب سے پہلے خود سے پیار کرنے کی کوشش کی اور اس عمل کے دوران پورا ہونا سیکھیں ، حالانکہ فی الحال چیزیں مکمل نہیں ہیں۔ اور یہ اس نوعیت کی ہے جس کی میں کوشش کرتا ہوں اور اب کرتا ہوں لوگوں کی صحت اور تندرستی میں کامیابی کی طرح نظر آنے کے بارے میں اپنے تاثرات کو تبدیل کرنے میں لوگوں کی مدد کرنا۔

کیٹی: مجھے آپ کے کہنے کے بارے میں سب کچھ پسند ہے۔ اور میں یہ اپنے تجربے سے جاتا ہوں۔ میرے پاس اتنی دیر تک وہی اسکرپٹ اور فلٹر تھا کہ اگر میں صرف ایک خاص سائز کا تھا یا کسی خاص طریقے سے دیکھتا ہوں تو مجھے خوشی ہوگی۔ اور یہ تب تک نہیں تھا جب میں نے یہ محسوس نہیں کیا کہ میں واقعی میں صرف خوش رہنا اور خود کو قبول کرنے کا انتخاب کرسکتا ہوں کہ ان سب چیزوں میں تبدیلیاں آنے لگیں۔ اور مجھے لگتا ہے کیونکہ اس نے میرے پورے تاثر کو تبدیل کردیا ، ایسا نہیں تھا… مجھے کافی یقین ہے کہ آپ اپنے آپ کو صحت مند سے نفرت نہیں کرسکتے ہیں۔ اور میں اپنے آپ کو محروم رکھنے کی کوشش کر رہا تھا اور اپنے جسم کو وہ کام کرنے پر مجبور کر رہا تھا جس سے میں یہ کرنا چاہتا تھا۔

اور جب میں نے محرومی اور سزا کی اس ذہنیت سے پرورش اور محبت کرنے والے اور ان سب کی طرف رخ کیا تو اس نے میرے تعلقات کو نہ صرف کھانے سے ، بلکہ اپنے اور اپنی زندگی کے دوسرے رشتوں کے ساتھ مکمل طور پر تبدیل کردیا۔ اور وزن میں کمی اسی کا نتیجہ تھی۔ اب یہ مقصد نہیں تھا۔ اور تم ٹھیک کہتے ہو۔ میرا خیال ہے کہ میں محبت کرتا ہوں کہ آپ جیسے لوگ بھی موجود ہیں جو لوگوں کے لئے ان سطحوں کو مخاطب کررہے ہیں کیونکہ ، واقعتا my ، میرا تجربہ یہ تھا کہ یہ بالکل کلید ہے۔ یہ اس کا صرف ایک حصہ نہیں تھا۔ کم از کم میرے لئے ان میں سے کسی تبدیلی کی اصلیت یہ تھی۔

متوجہ: ہاں اور یہ خوبصورت ہے۔ اور مجھے بہت خوشی ہے کہ آپ اس کے لئے آواز ہیں اور آپ کے پیروکاروں کے بہت سے دوسرے مرد اور خواتین کی مدد کر رہے ہیں ، انہیں اس خیال کو تبدیل کرنے میں مدد کریں۔ مجھے لگتا ہے کہ واقعی یہی ہوتا ہے۔ یہ سمجھنے میں ایک بہت بڑی تبدیلی ہے کیوں کہ ہم صحت ، صحت اور فٹنس کی صنعت میں اس طرح کے مرغوب رہے ہیں ، ٹھیک ہے ، کامیاب ہونے کے لئے ، یہاں آپ کی ایک غذا ہے ، اور یہاں ایک ورزش پروگرام ہے۔ اور اگر آپ اس کے مطابق رہتے ہیں تو آپ کو یہ جسم مل جائے گا۔ اور پھر اس جسم کے ساتھ ، آپ سب خوشی میں آ جائیں گے۔ اور لوگ کہیں گے کہ وہ آپ سے کتنا پیار کرتے ہیں اور پھر آپ خود سے پیار کرنا شروع کردیں گے۔ اور یہ صرف ایک غلط وعدہ ہے اور وہی رقم جو پیسہ ہے۔ جیسے ، اوہ ، ایک بار جب آپ کے پاس اتنا پیسہ ہوجائے تو ، آپ کی ساری پریشانی دور ہوجائیں گی۔ اور ہم جانتے ہیں کہ یہ ایک خرافات ہے کیونکہ ہم ایسے لوگوں کو جانتے ہیں جو انتہائی دولت مند ہیں جو دکھی ہیں۔ ہم ایسے لوگوں کو جانتے ہیں جن کے پاس چھ پیک ایبس ہیں جو اب بھی اپنے آپ سے نفرت کرتے ہیں اور پھر بھی سمجھتے ہیں کہ وہ اتنے اچھے نہیں ہیں۔

اور اس طرح ، اس مقصد کی طرح ہے۔ اور یہ ہے … یہ ایک قسم کی غذا کی صنعت کی ثقافت کے خلاف جانا ہے حالانکہ یہی وجہ ہے کہ لوگ سوچیں گے کہ وہ کیا چاہتے ہیں۔ لیکن اسی وجہ سے اس تبدیلی کا ایسا ذہنی ، جذباتی جزو ہے جس کو نظرانداز کیا گیا ہے کیوں کہ ہم اسے آسان بنانا چاہتے ہیں اور اس کو مقدار بنانا چاہتے ہیں اور اس کے بارے میں سب کچھ بنانا چاہتے ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، اس طرح کے جسم میں کیلوری حاصل کرنے کے ل cal کیلوری حاصل کرنا اور اسے کم کرنا ہے۔ معاشرے. ٹھیک ہے ، یہ واقعی اپنے آپ سے پوچھنے پر آتا ہے ، کیوں؟ ہم یہ کیوں چاہتے ہیں؟ آپ جانتے ہو کہ ہم کیوں وزن کم کرنا چاہتے ہیں؟ ہم ایک مخصوص قسم کا جسم کیوں حاصل کرنا چاہتے ہیں؟ اور آپ کو اپنے آپ سے یہ سوال کرنے کی ضرورت ہے ، کیوں؟ تم واقعتا that ایسا کیوں چاہتے ہو؟

اور میرا خیال ہے کہ آپ جتنا زیادہ عمر حاصل کریں گے ، آپ جتنا سمجھدار ہوجائیں گے ، اتنا ہی آپ کو احساس ہوگا کہ یہ صحت اور اچھا لگ رہا ہے۔ اور ہاں ، آپ یہ چاہتے ہیں کہ اچھ bodyے جسم کے اچھے نتائج برآمد ہوں۔ لیکن اگر آپ کو اچھ bodyے جسم کا ہونا لیکن دکھی محسوس کرنا یا بہترین جسم نہ ہونا لیکن خود کو صحت مند محسوس کرنا ہے ، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ آپ کی عمر بڑھنے کے ساتھ ہی آپ کے بچے بھی ہوں گے ، آپ کے پوتے پوتے بھی ہیں ، یہ صحت کے بارے میں کچھ اور ہی ہے۔

کیٹی: بالکل۔ میرے خیال میں اس سفر میں میرے لئے سبق آموز مقام رہے ہیں ، سب سے پہلے ، ذہنی اور جذباتی جزو کتنا اہم ہے اور دوسرا یہ کہ ہر ایک فرد کے لئے صحت اور غذا کتنی اہم ہے۔ اور مجھے لگتا ہے ، جیسے ، بہت سارے لوگ اس چیز کا پتہ لگاتے ہیں جو ان کے لئے کام کرتی ہے ، اور وہ بہت پرجوش ہیں۔ وہ سب کو بتانا چاہتے ہیں ، لیکن وہ ان چیزوں کا پتہ لگاتے ہیں جو ان کے لئے کام کرتی ہیں۔ میرے خیال میں آپ کے اپنے جسم کے ساتھ کام کرنے اور ان چیزوں کا پتہ لگانے کے لئے تجربہ کرنے اور سیکھنے کی ایک سطح موجود ہے۔ میرے خیال میں شاید کچھ ایسی آفاقی چیزیں بھی ہیں جو پوری بورڈ میں مدد گار ہیں۔ اور میں جاننا چاہتا ہوں کہ اگر آپ کے پاس ایسی کوئی چیزیں ہیں جو آپ واضح طور پر اس کی درجہ بندی میں ذاتی نوعیت اور ذہنی جذباتی کو بھی ذہن میں رکھتے ہیں ، لیکن جب بات صرف غذا اور تندرستی کی ہو تو ، ایسی چیزیں جو آپ کو خاص طور پر مددگار معلوم ہوتی ہیں۔

متوجہ: ہاں لہذا ، سب سے پہلے ، میں ہر ایک کا ایک بہت بڑا مداح ہوں ، جس میں ٹول بیلٹ موجود ہے ، اور اس ٹول بیلٹ میں ، بہت سارے ٹولز ہیں ، اور یہ ٹولیاں پیلیو ، کیٹو ، ویگان ، سبزی خور جیسے کھانے کے مختلف طریقوں کی طرح ہوسکتی ہیں۔ . اور میں آپ کی طرح ہوں ، مجھے نہیں لگتا کہ کھانے کے ان طریقوں میں سے کسی ایک کو مذہب میں تبدیل کرنا اچھا ہے ، جس کا مطلب ہے ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، لوگ کشمکش میں آتے ہیں کیونکہ انہیں اچھے نتائج ملتے ہیں۔ وہ اپنے دوستوں کو اس کے بارے میں بتانا اور اس کے بارے میں تبلیغ کرنا چاہتے ہیں۔ اور پھر وہ دوسرے کھانے پینے یا کھانے کے دیگر طریقوں کو ایک طرح سے برا یا گناہ بخش سمجھتے ہیں۔ اور یہ وہ مقام ہے جہاں یہ بہت بیمار ہوسکتا ہے۔

لہذا ، میرے لئے ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، میں نے بہت سارے لوگوں کے لئے جو کام دیکھا ہے وہ ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، ظاہر ہے ، ایک پوری غذا کھانے کے قریب آتی ہے ، چاہے آپ پیالو ، کیٹو ، ویگن کچھ بھی کررہے ہو۔ اگر آپ زیادہ تر کھانوں کا کھانا کھا رہے ہیں تو ، میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ غذا کی صنعت میں ہر کوئی اس بات پر اتفاق کرسکتا ہے کہ شاید صحت مند ہو۔ اور چاہے آپ کاربس یا چربی یا مخصوص فوڈ گروپس پر پابندی لگائیں ، ہاں جو کام کرسکتا ہے ، لیکن یہ سب کے ل work کام نہیں کرتا ، ٹھیک ہے؟ اور کچھ کے ل for ، یہ نقصان دہ اور نقصان دہ ہوسکتا ہے۔ یہ صرف اس شخص پر منحصر ہے۔ تم جانتے ہو ، یہ بہت انفرادی ہے۔ میں کیٹجنک غذا کا ایک بہت بڑا پرستار ہوں ، وزن کم کرنے یا چربی میں کمی کے ل. no. آپ جانتے ہو ، یہاں ہر غذا کام کرتی ہے ، اگر آپ اپنی کیلوری کو محدود کرتے ہیں تو ، آپ جانتے ہو ، جب زیادہ سے زیادہ وزن میں کمی یا چربی کے ضیاع کی بات ہوتی ہے ، لیکن اس سے کہیں زیادہ صحت کے لئے بہت کچھ ہے۔ And so for me, that’s why I like the ketogenic diet is because my mental clarity for my brain is like night and day.

You know, when I eat mostly carbohydrates, I just tend not to feel as sharp. You know, my brain isn’t as sharp. My cognitive function isn’t as good. My mental clarity isn’t as good. But when I’m in a strict state of ketosis, I love the feeling of not having to eat five, six, seven times a day. And I love the way my brain feels on keto. And my digestion is so much better because I’m not a slave to food of having to prep five or six meals throughout the day, which is what I used to do. And yes, that’s still got me to look a certain way, but it isn’t like all the prep work that went into, it didn’t fit my lifestyle. And now, you know, I’m a dad, I have 2 daughters that are 9 and 11 and I don’t have time to meal prep and bring my food with me all the time. And so, for me, it’s easier from a lifestyle perspective to fast, to do some type of intermittent fasting where I’m eating a once or twice a day.

And I feel really good eating a lot of vegetables instead of a ton of fruit but doesn’t mean I’m strict keto all the time. I love to cycle in and out of ketosis, which is, you know, I think if you look at it from an evolutionary perspective, humans were designed to run off with two different types of fuels, both glucose, and ketones. And there were periods of feast and famine where there was an abundance of food. And then there was a scarcity of food and you had to be able to survive. And that’s the way our bodies were designed by having a backup system like ketosis to be able to burn our fat as energy in the form of ketones.

And so, I love keto as a tool in our tool belt that can be used from time to time. Yes, for weight loss and fat loss, but also reducing inflammation, not being a slave to food anymore. And I feel like, you know, our society is so ingrained in this, you know, eat from the minute you wake up and eat to the minute you go to bed and all day long, snacking five, six, seven meals a day. Whereas I think, you know, from a health perspective, it is generally healthy accepted in the health and wellness culture to fast every once in a while. And that’s why it’s practiced by every major religion, not so much to lose weight, but just for overall health, cell regeneration, anti-aging, there’s a lot of health benefits to it.

And so, I use a mix of intermittent fasting, cyclical keto but mostly based off of whole foods. But, you know, from time to time, I have two young daughters. We like to eat pancakes, you know, or I’m gonna eat birthday cake on their birthday and not feel guilty about it. So, that’s kind of my approach of what I think works for me. But I’m a huge fan of people that can do a whole foods vegan approach and be super healthy, same thing with paleo. I think in general, as long as you’re eating whole foods, for the most part, you’ll probably be okay from a health perspective.

Katie: Yeah. I’ve landed very much in a similar place that sounds like you have. And my approach is that I don’t do anything every day. I don’t want the body to ever be able to adapt to anything and get used to it. So, I don’t eat the same way every single day. I don’t work out the same way every single day. I don’t even take vitamins every single day. I wanna keep mixing it up just to keep the body adapting. And you’re right, we’re meant to run off these different fuel sources. And so, letting the body have the opportunity to do that at different times makes so much sense. And I also, if my research is correct, you are about to take on a big experiment, can you fill us in on that?

Drew: Yes. Thank you so much for letting me talk about this. So, this is… Oh, man. So, this is probably like the second or third podcast that I have talked about this on. So, I did Fit to Fat to Fit back in 2011 and I was 31 years old. My metabolism was different. My hormones were different for sure. I turned 40 this year on December 27th. And over the past year or so, I’ve been planning to revisit this journey, but as a 40-year-old. I know it sounds crazy. Why would I do this again? I’ll explain why I’ve decided to embark on this journey again, called it Fit to Fat to 40 this time around. For me, it’s about a couple of things. One, my message has become so clear over the years since I did Fit to Fat to Fit back in the day in 2011. And my message is one of empathy.

And I want to shine the light on people who struggle with transformation, people who struggle with weight loss, who feel they’re judged by others as lazy or less than because of the way they look, because of their body shape. And my message is to spread empathy, to let people know that empathy is something that’s missing in the fitness industry. And I wanna be a voice for that. And so, Fit to Fat to 40 is the vehicle to catch people’s attention because, of course, it’s crazy, of course, it’s risky. And, of course, there’s gonna be an entertainment factor to it. But for me, like I said, this message is very clear of what I feel like I wanna spread this time around. I feel like I have so much more to say this time around. And I think empathy is something that could be a driving force, especially in the fitness industry for change to shift our perception.

But this world in general, look at 2020 what it has done to us as a society, it’s caused so much division. I feel like empathy is something that we lack in this world, which causes hate, which causes judgment, which causes more fear and worrying. And I feel like if we could learn to develop empathy for others, we could make some big changes in this world. So, that’s the first reason I’m doing this again, is to push for the message of empathy and the importance of empathy, especially in the fitness industry.

The second reason is because I’m turning 40. Obviously, my metabolism is different. My hormones are a little bit different. And I want to give people in that age group a hope for change that we don’t have to blame our age for our health. And I feel like we can take hold of our health together as a team because what will happen as starting August 27th of 2020 through December 27th, which is my birthday where I turned 40. And, you know, I’ll be gaining the weight. That’d be the weight gaining phase that people can follow along and be very engaging and educational.

There’s a lot of opportunities to show people from a medical perspective, from a health perspective, what’s happening on the inside of my body as I am living this lifestyle. That will be broadcasted across all the platforms. And then come January of 2021, I think so many people just wanna be done with 2020, as far as their physical health, their mental health. I feel like it will be that perfect time where everyone can come together as a team, as a community. And I can say, ”Hey, let’s do this together. Let’s not only lose this weight together. Let’s shift our perception of what success in the weight loss industry looks like.”

And I feel, like I said, my message, everything we’ve talked about on this podcast, Katie, is exactly what I wanna get across to people so that they understand that it’s not just about getting your body to look a certain way. It’s not just about losing weight and losing fat. I want people to realize that they are more than their body. They have more to offer this world and their physical body. And it’s time that we, as a society, stop placing so much value in judgment on others who might not look the same because I feel like healthy can look different on everybody. It doesn’t have to be 5% body fat and what you see on Instagram. And I feel like it’s time that we make some changes in this industry. And for me, Fit to Fat to 40, me doing it a second time is that vehicle or can be that vehicle.

Katie: I will make sure I have links in the show notes so everyone can follow along with this journey. And I love so much about what you just said about empathy. I think that’s a great metaphor for life and a reminder to all of us, anytime there’s something that comes easily to us, that is a perfect opportunity for empathy and love and to help others in that area. But it does, it starts with the empathy. And I love that you’re bringing that into the fitness world because as someone who has also been on both sides of this, I have felt that pressure, especially in gym environments of like, why can’t you just…this is so easy. And from the side of how hard it was, I’m looking at them going, “Look, dude, you’re done. You have abs, why are you even here?” Because it comes easy.

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Another journey that I think you have done recently that I would love to hear about involved running a hundred miles from what I understand. And I would love to hear you explain the reason why you undertook that.

Drew: Yes. And thank you for letting me talk about this. So, here’s the thing. I’ve never been a runner. I’ve never run a marathon or half marathon my entire life. I’ve always hated running because I grew up playing sports. Running was kind of the punishment of the sport. Like, you had to run if you miss a tackle, you had run if you messed up. And so, I’ve never enjoyed running. And then fast forward to about last year around this time or around May of last year, my brother invited me to run 100 miles with him because he had just listened to the book, ”Can’t Hurt Me” by David Goggins. And if you haven’t heard that book or listened to it on Audible, I highly, highly recommend it.

David Goggins’ story is so powerful. He’s very well-known in this space as, you know, one of the toughest guys on in the world for his mental toughness and his discipline that he has. And so, after reading that book, I was motivated to do something, but I had never thought in a million years, 100 miles would be that thing I would attempt to do. So, we actually attempted to do it last year, but I only trained for six weeks for it. I didn’t really know. I didn’t really, I wasn’t really prepared. And I went out there and try to run 100 miles in 24 hours and failed, but I got 80 miles done in 24 hours. And what that said to me was, one, I never imagined I could do 80 miles. And two, I thought, what if I actually trained for this? Is this something that I could possibly pull off? Because people, you know, not everyone does marathons, but marathon is a very common thing, 26.2 miles, which is difficult still in itself, 100 miles is like beyond that. I feel like, for your average person, like, that’s impossible. There’s no way I could do that.

And we all have these self-limiting beliefs that we grew up with thinking that’s not for me. People do that, yeah. I’ve seen people do that, but I can’t do that. That’s not for me. Like, we have these self-limiting beliefs that keeps us from even trying. And so, the fact that I went out there and tried and failed still for me was a success because I wanted to then see if I could actually do it. And this year, I trained for it a little bit differently, a little bit. I had some help from some professionals this time around to, you know, help me train for something like this. And after training hardcore for 7 months, I was able to pull it off and run the 100 miles in under 24 hours, which, you know, I didn’t break any records and it like, I’m not gonna become an ultra-marathon runner by any means, but I wanted to do it to say that I did it to show me and others that if you put your body and mind to something, even though we have these self-limiting beliefs of things that seem so impossible to us, that you can still do these impossible things. It’s just, we’re too scared.

We’re too scared to go outside of our comfort zone because we live in a world of comfort. You know, we have air-conditioned houses, we have warm water in our showers and we have food whenever we want it. We have Uber eats. We have restaurants, we have grocery stores, we have soft carpet in our houses. We have soft beds. We have all these comforts that make us feel comfortable. And for most humans nowadays, we’re conditioned to stay in that comfort zone because we’re not sure what’s gonna happen. There could be danger. There could be risks, but if we stay in our comfort zone, we will never know what we’re fully capable of. And so for me, this 100 miles was something that was like the impossible marker, like, you know, going to the moon or something like that.

And for me, you know, training for it for seven months was a testament to how amazing our bodies are and how amazing our minds are. And we’re stronger than we think we are. And we can do harder things than we think we can. And it starts with doing small things. It’s not like at one day, I woke up and ran 100 miles. It starts with little things like maybe today I’m gonna take a cold shower, which sucks. And it’s way out of my comfort zone. And I know it’s gonna be uncomfortable, but maybe if I could train my mind to do that for 60 seconds, maybe then I could train my body and my mind to maybe exercise 5 days this week, you know? And then from there, it builds…you build up that confidence and you start to condition yourself and believe in yourself that you can do harder things. And then before you know it, maybe it’s 100 miles or maybe it’s like, maybe for you or for someone listening, it’s a 10K or a 5K or it’s like hiking some amazing hike that seemed too hard before, it could look like anything.

For me, I just chose the 100 miles, but that’s what I wanted to show people. And that’s why I did it. And fortunately, it worked out and, you know, I don’t plan on running anytime soon because I just did this in June. But I wanted to say that I could do it. So, that’s kind of the story in a nutshell.

Katie: I love that. One of our family mottos is we tell our kids, you were made to do hard things and now they turn it around on me whenever, like, it’s cliff jumping or something that scares me, they’re like, ”Mom, you were made to do hard things too.” But I love that explanation and why you did that. I’m curious, are there things like that you’ve mentioned you have two daughters that you try to make sure that you teach them and impress upon them early?

Drew: Yeah, as far as getting out of their comfort zone and doing hard things?

Katie: Yeah. And also, maybe speaking to that piece also about self-acceptance and I know body image things can be a tough thing for girls. I remember being that age. Are there ways that you’re helping them navigate those things?

Drew: One hundred percent. I just did a post maybe last week or two weeks ago. I think it has the most engagement I’ve ever got on a post. And it was titled, ”How to Talk to Your Daughters About Their Bodies.” And for me, it’s so important to help train them from a very young age, both me and their mom. We’re not married anymore, but we’re both on the same page about body positivity and teaching our girls that it’s not so much about what their body looks like. It’s about what their bodies can do and achieve. And instead of complimenting them on how beautiful they are, like if they’re gaining weight or losing weight, you should not talk at all to your daughters about weight or about their body image. It should be all about health and strength and treating our bodies kindly with respect, loving our bodies, loving other people’s bodies. And it should never ever be about weight loss or fat loss or making it about diets or anything like that.

Yes, I obviously am in this industry and they see, you know, whether I’m doing keto or sometimes I’m fasting, but for me, it’s not about weight gain and weight loss. And for me, you know, we actually had a whole sit down conversation with me and my ex about my new journey coming up and how are we gonna talk to our daughters about that because they’re gonna see me gain weight. They’re gonna see me eat all the junk food. They’re gonna wanna eat the junk food with me, for sure. And, you know, I don’t wanna deprive them and keep them super strict where they can’t touch a processed carbohydrate for the rest of their life. But at the same time, I want them to understand what I’m doing and why I’m doing it and how our bodies are amazing things that can do these amazing things.

And our bodies are temporary, right? Your body, like you said, you’ve been through different phases of your journey where your body’s probably looked differently after having six kids versus before. And there’s all these ups and downs. And for me, talking to my daughters about that is really, really important instead of just making it about weight or body image and it’s all about health and being strong. And then from there, you know, on the physical side, you know, we try and do things together as a family that, you know, where we stay active, whether we go on a bike ride, whether we go on a hike, whether we go swimming, we love to be outdoors and do things outdoors.

And I remember any time my girls struggle with something like where they’re frustrated at themselves for not being able to accomplish something like their first time, I show them videos of when they first finally did the monkey bars when they were about three or four years old, where I had to hold them and be with them every second of the way. And then finally I got them on video where they could do the monkey bars by themselves. And that would be months later, of course, you know, it wasn’t like the first day they were able to do the monkey bars. But I showed them that video to remind them that, hey, do you remember doing the monkey bars and how long it took you to be able to do this by yourself? This, whatever you’re doing is very similar where you’re not gonna be good right away, but that’s okay. You’re gonna get stronger. Your body’s gonna become more efficient at doing it. And before you know it, it’s gonna be like riding a bike, you know, now you don’t even have to think about it. And you’re just so good at it. And so, that’s kind of how I talked to my daughters and I hope I’m doing the right thing. Like, I hope…I’m just doing the best I can. And it’s a fun journey to be on. I love being a dad, two daughters, a girl dad. And I feel very blessed.

Katie: I love it. I think we’re definitely gonna have to do a round 2 after your next experiment and I would love to have you back on in to do a whole episode just on parenting and mindset and entrepreneur side because I think that’s a topic in and of itself. But as we get toward the end of our time, a couple of questions I love to ask. The first being, if there is a book or a number of books that have dramatically impacted your life and if so, what they are and why?

Drew: Yes. ٹھیک ہے. So, I’m glad you said books, plural, because it’s hard to narrow it down to one book. ”The Four Agreements” definitely helped me to not take things personally and not make assumptions about other people. I feel like a lot of our society lives in that space of judging others, taking things personally from social media posts. The second book would be ”Daring Greatly” by Brené Brown. She’s helped me so much to let go of this guilt and shame culture that I grew up in with the very strict religion that I grew up with that I’m no longer a part of anymore, but had a very unhealthy relationship with myself and hating who I was as a kid because of guilt and shame. ”Daring Greatly” was a great book for that.

”Ego is the Enemy,” great book to learn to let go of your ego, especially in situations that caused you to suffer and relationships that’s changed my life. And one more would be, ”Loving What Is” by Byron Katie. And that has helped me to let go of certain situations that I can’t control because I think so many times we suffer when we try and control the uncontrollable. And, you know, we can’t change that and learning to let go of that. It’s really hard to do but has really helped me become free. So, those are a few as far as mindset and personal development goes, there’s dozens more, but I’ll probably stop there.

Katie: Those are all amazing. I love all of those and I’ll make sure they’re all linked in the show notes. If you guys have not read them, I highly recommend all of those recommendations. And then lastly, you may have already touched on a lot of these throughout the interview, but if you kind of looked at your life and did an 80/20 of all the things that you do in a given day or a given period of time, what would you say are the 20% of things that provide the greatest positive results in your life?

Drew: Probably my morning routine, it’s about maybe 10, 20 minutes long, and it consists of meditation, positive affirmations, and the gratitude list. And that right there sets my mood, my mindset for the rest of the day and sets the tone. Like, if I sit in attention if I find things I’m grateful for and I’m able to breathe and be present at the moment and believe in myself and have a positive view of who I am. I feel like I show up as the true, authentic version of myself. Whether I’m being a dad, whether I’m being a business owner, whether I’m, you know… In all my relationships in my life, I feel like I can show up the best version of myself if I get that morning routine in, which is hard sometimes as a parent because it’s not always perfect and your kid might have a nightmare and that might throw your morning routine off for your kid needs you. So, I am forgiving of myself if I’m not perfect, but that right there, if I can stay consistent with that, for the most part, it just…it helps me be so much more present and authentic throughout the entire rest of the day.

Katie: I love it. Drew, this has been such a fun interview. I can’t wait to follow along with your journey and I will make sure that all those links for the show notes, so you guys can follow along as well. Thank you so much for the time. This was wonderful.

Drew: Thank you, Katie. And I would love to come back on. So, looking forward to it.

Katie: And thank you, as always, all of you for sharing your most valuable asset, your time with both of us. We’re so grateful that you did, and I hope that you will join me again on the next episode of ”The Wellness Mama” podcast.

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