Genetics vs Epigenetics With Dr. Ben Lynch


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Katie: Hello, and welcome to the “Valence Mama Podcast.” I’m from KatieWellensmama.com and Wellensy.com. At the same time, it is “welfare.” This is my new line of care products, such as hair care and toothpaste. I strongly encourage you to check it out. I’m back in Round Two today with Dr. Ben Lynch. And we go deeper into a lot of things related to genetics and epigenetics. And he gives some incredible, very practical tips on supporting your own genes, supporting your children’s genes. I really, really enjoyed the event. If you are not already familiar with this, Dr. Ben Lynch holds a degree in Cell and Molecular Biology. He also has a doctorate in naturopathic medicine. He is considered one of the leading experts in neutrogenics and methylation dysfunction. And he developed a lot of genetic-based optimization products, and understood the epigenetic aspect.

And in this case, as I said, we talk deeply about their idea and notion that they act like Jane Domino’s, and that you don’t try to treat anyone in solitude without understanding the whole picture. Want to We talk about things like histamine, methylation, methonine, why genes are not your destiny, how phosphatidylcholine was life changing for me and why choline can be a big key for many people, especially How to support things like skin issues. Kids, why sweat is important and all that matters, and much more. So, as I said, lots, lots of installments, lots of practical advice. All notes of the show are on wellnessmama.fm. We talk a lot, and they will all be connected from there. So, if you’re currently driving or doing something else, make sure to check those to find what we’re talking about. And without further ado, let’s jump in with Dr. Lynch. Dr. Lynch, welcome back.

Dr. Lynch: Katie is great.

Katie: I’m excited to have you back because you were my favorite opening guest. And I think there’s more to it right now. And it seems to me that in the field, especially of genes, there is constantly evolving, interesting research. And you are one of my resources for that and a wealth of knowledge. I want to start a little broader and then I will definitely have some concluding questions to ask you to the end. But since it is widely available for testing different types of genes, it seems to us that we no longer lack information in the data, but about the best use of this data and how to interpret it. Sometimes I don’t even have a ton of explanation. So, I want to make a big start. I know this is an important point for you and it is a point in which I look at genetics and what it means on a practical basis. So, to expand, if someone is only getting their genetic report for the first time or may have had their genes tested before, and they have these data, understand What is the starting point for how it can really be useful to us?

Dr. Lynch: Yes, great point. And, you know, genetics medicine, in general, by both health professionals and the common man or Leperson, is a flying field of health care and life improvement related to medicine and prevention. And I’ve learned hard. You know, the gene I ever learned about was MTHFR. And I had deer in the headlights, a whole site on a gene, right? Therefore, you can’t get too much attention on a particular gene. And yes, that’s important. Yes, there is a lot of research. And yes, that’s very important and it makes a big difference when people start helping this particular gene. But what people don’t understand and I don’t understand is this, if you support a particular gene, it means that the gene is performing better, right? I mean, in a nutshell, it’s going to do its job best. So what if it does its job the best it can? Well, whatever Jane has just done, another Jane has just picked up. Therefore, if MTFHR makes a particular gene or a particular gene such as methyl folate, the other gene carries it, and then the other gene takes that information and then enters it. So the big picture we think of is Domino’s. If you compile, you know, you have dominoes in your house and you put them in a line, I remember if there is a case in this game or not, maybe, 26 of them Say, and you pile them all up, and that every single domino is a different gene.

If you push one domino, if you line them up they will all fall. Okay fine? And that’s the big picture. I just want people to understand. If you support a particular gene, you’re drifting the whole domino. And if you don’t know what these other dominoes are, or how they’re lined up, or if they’re lined up, you can’t find them anywhere. This is the first time I have used this example. I’m thinking, “This is really cool” because if the domino is not tied in a row and you push the first domino it is said to be temporary, or you are pushing it, but all the other dominoes are in alignment. No, you support MTHFR, but everyone else is still standing. And let’s just say that if you find it perfect, you know, the dominoes come in alignment, and they all fall down beautifully, and you watch those videos and be amazed, it’s you. Want to want genes. You want them to work in perfect harmony, as you know, Domino’s is just a series of collapses. And we’re so focused on a single domino that we don’t and we fail to see the next one in line.

Katie: I think that’s a perfect match. And I think that’s it; I’m glad we started with the point of understanding that it’s too much of a glimpse and we have to understand the whole picture. And while really, it’s great that we now have data on things like MTHFR and we know that, for example, the implications of fertility or, you know, during pregnancy, this I have special reservations, but it’s not easy, just start and stop there. Like you said, it affects everything down the line, and I think, with a gene overcharging or supporting something, maybe it also creates a negative cascade on the road. can do. Okay fine?

Dr. Lynch: One hundred percent. One hundred percent. And, you know, I learn more and I learn every day, maybe even on weekends. I understand that the body is just amazing by nature. And yes, we all know that. But when you study biochemistry as deeply as I do and you start putting things together, it answers a lot of questions, like, “Oh, that’s why it happens or Oh, that’s why it happens. ” And so if you’re helping; you know there’s a lot of talk about terms of extreme frustration and indifference, and they’re nails on the stinky chalkboard for me. I can’t stand these conditions. And there’s a claim, if I’m high in histamine and I’m low in histamine, I’m an expert. And it’s so short-sighted, and so complex and so wrong, that it needs to stop.

And one thing I’m focusing on, Katie, is really trying to stop misinformation on the Internet. And, you know, no, I’m not really testing people. No, I’m not censoring people. It’s a little bit but all I want to do is give people the right information. And sometimes I get it wrong. But when it comes down to it, you know there’s a lot of frustration and unfounded things going on, and you can see a lab marker like histamine, that’s wrong. And when I’m using it as an example, because a lot of people, you know, say, “Oh, I’m weak, I’m going to take methylphylate to lower my histamine levels.” Well, the flow of that particular gene that you just confirmed knocking down histamine is another gene, and then another gene. And if these genes are not supported, we say you have perfect methylation, your methylation is on the spot, everything is great, it doesn’t matter if these two flowing genes are dirty. If they are and they are not working well, your histamine levels will still be high.

Katie: All right. So let’s get a little deeper into this. Because I think this is another area that a lot of moms are researching right now. Histamine seems to be associated with certain conditions. And as you mentioned, when it comes to methylation, there is at least one link and there is something to understand. So maybe give us a comprehensive overview of what’s going on with the histamine reaction, along with that, and then how it might relate to these different genetic factors.

Dr. Lynch: Yeah, so, you know, first of all, we need to understand that histamine is a good thing, right? So many of us think that histamine is bad, but histamine increases our alertness. This allows Katie and I to focus and listen right now. And it keeps you awake. It helps boost your immune system. It helps control your blood flow. So it helps move your intestines so your digestive system knows your digestive system. It does a lot of things. So, histamine is good. But, like, everything, you know, there’s a gold block. You need to balance it. And there is some extraordinary research on histamine. And I want to share with people, Katie, and listen to her, in almost every complication of pregnancy, everyone has high levels of histamine. And when I read a research paper that puts it in place, and vomits a lot during pregnancy, you know, it was like a light-hearted moment because it really made such a thing happen. Simplified what I didn’t do. Really make it easy in my own head first. I just put it at the top. But every complication during pregnancy seems to be associated with high histamine.

Therefore, histamine metabolism, which you need to understand, is basically two major pathways of histamine. Histamine is present inside the cell. So basically, you know, there are special cells in your brain, in your lungs, in your lungs, in your digestive system. And then there is histamine outside the cell, which comes from your food, your drinks and bacteria or infections. And here are some bacteria, such as blastocytes. So if you do a stool test and you see that the bill blast vitiligo is low, especially the bacteria only skyrocket histamine.

And so, if you get a lot of extracellular out of cell histamine, drinking red wine, some cheese, and some oranges, and some crab cocktails, you know, it’s a beautiful evening for someone. Maybe, and now they are red on the face. They have started to have a slight headache. They start to itch. They start sniffing in the nose. And they had a good evening and all the fun started, and now it’s getting worse. And what happened is that they are out of alcohol and they are out of cell histamine levels by eating and drinking, and maybe earlier that day they took a probiotic or some kefir and some sucker, now that their histamine is their Inside the blood, which is now being found. Their brains, and because of that they cause headaches, irritability and so on. Therefore, people need to understand that histamine levels need to be maintained at a certain maximum. And if not, it’s a symptom. And most of them are nutrients and many of them are bacterial.

Katie: Well, like anything, there can certainly be a genetic component that makes some of these factors more likely, but there’s also, like with something, when it seems that the gene’s Too many lifestyle factors, too. If someone is experiencing some symptoms and similar echoes from these possible reactions to histamine, are these their starting points or, as a general rule, they may know that to test for it, they begin with lifestyle adjustments. What if it could happen?

Dr. Lynch: Yes, one hundred percent. So, my wife, you know, she reported the strategy about a month ago. And here are the results for me. And his histamine pathway is not good. Not Good. When I first saw him, it was amazing because now I know why he has that kind of hell when he drinks. Katie, she’ll get a sip of wine and literally 20 seconds later, she goes, “Oh, my legs go there.” I like, “What? You just took a sip. She’s gone,” Yes, my legs, she’s gone. “Great. And she’s been struggling with rheumatoid arthritis since she was 17. You know. ہو ، وہ کوئی دوائی نہیں لے رہی ہے۔ وہ عام طور پر صحت کی تصویر ہے ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، کچھ سپلیمنٹس ، پاگل نہیں ہیں۔ ہم اس کے لئے جو کچھ کرتے ہیں وہ طرز زندگی ، اور ماحول ، سونا وغیرہ کی صفائی ہے۔ تو ہم بہت سارے کام کرتے ہیں ، لیکن اس کی آنت ابھی بھی ٹھیک نہیں ہے۔ اور پروبائیوٹکس کے ساتھ ، اس کے ساتھ مشکل تو میں نے اس کی اسٹرٹیجین اور رپورٹ پر جو کچھ پایا وہ یہ ہے کہ اس کے سیل ہسٹامائن راستے کے باہر دو جین ہیں۔ لہذا ، اگر وہ شراب پیتا ہے ، یا ہسٹامائن پر مشتمل غذائیں ، یا کیفر ، یا ان میں سے کسی قسم کی چیزیں کھاتا ہے تو ، اس کھانے کی چیزوں اور مشروبات سے ہسٹامائن کو ختم کرنے کی اس کی قابلیت ڈی اے او نامی اس جین سے انتہائی سست ہے۔ یہ سست ہے۔ اور اس میں اضافہ کرنے کے لئے یہ جین بھی مزید سست ہوجاتا ہے ، نہ صرف اس کے جینیاتی نسخے سے جو اس مخصوص جین میں ہے ، بلکہ یہ بھی کہ اسے آنتوں کی سوزش ہے۔ اور اگر آپ کو آنتوں کی سوزش ہو تو ، خاص جین سست ہوجاتا ہے۔ تحقیق اس بیان کی تائید کرتی ہے۔ تو شراب بھی کرتا ہے۔ شراب اسے سست کردیتی ہے۔ اسی طرح خمیر کی کثرت سے ایسیٹالہائڈ بھی ہے۔ اسی طرح میٹفارمین ، جو ایک ایسی دوا ہے جو لوگوں کے لئے ہر جگہ تجویز کی جاتی ہے۔ اور بہت سارے لوگ ، شاید آپ سن رہے ہو ابھی ابھی میٹفارمین لے رہے ہیں اور ہاضمہ کے مسائل ہیں۔

ٹھیک ہے ، کیونکہ یہ خاص دوا آپ کے ڈی اے او جین کو واقعتا slow سست کردیتی ہے ، جس سے کھانے پینے اور مشروبات پر مشتمل ہسٹامائن میں آپ کی عدم رواداری بڑھ جاتی ہے۔ اور اب ، سیل پاتھ وے کے باہر اس کے ہسٹامائن میں دوسرا جین ALDH ہے۔ اور یہ خاص جین مل کر کام کرتا ہے۔ سیل ہسٹامائن کے باہر اس کے ل line لائن میں یہ دوسرا ڈومنو ہے۔ تو DAO اور ALDH دو ڈومنو ہیں۔ اور یہ دونوں ڈومینو آہستہ آہستہ ہیں۔ وہ دونوں سلگ ہیں اور وہ صرف اس کے ل very بہتر کام نہیں کرتے ہیں۔ لہذا ، ہم نے کیا کیا ہے ، اور ALDH نے آکسیکٹیٹو تناؤ ، اسپرین اور NSAIDs کو بڑھاوا دینے سے ، اور فیٹی ایسڈ کو آکسائڈائز کرنے سے بھی مزید سست پڑ گئی ہے۔ اور جتنا آپ عمر پا لیں گے ، اس کے ساتھ ساتھ اس کی رفتار بھی اتنی ہی کم ہوجاتی ہے۔ تو ، زنک اس جین کی حمایت کرتا ہے ، نیاکسین اس جین کی حمایت کرتا ہے ، تانبے ڈی اے او کی حمایت کرتا ہے۔ تو وہ تمام چیزیں اہم ہیں۔ لیکن ہم نے کیا کیا ہم نے اسے ڈی اے او ینجائم بھی دیا۔ لہذا آپ لوگوں کو ڈی اے او انزائم دے سکتے ہیں اگر ان کا اپنا مخصوص ڈی اے او بہت اچھا کام نہیں کررہا ہے۔ اور میں یہ کرنا پسند نہیں کرتا ، لیکن جب یہ ایک غذائی چیز ہے اور آپ کو ایک اچھی شام ملنا چاہتی ہے… بین گرین فیلڈ نے اس کتاب کے بارے میں اپنی تازہ کتاب “بے حد” نامی کتاب میں گفتگو کی ، میرے خیال میں وہ اسے شراب کا اسٹیک کہتے ہیں۔ اور یہ اس صفحے کے 20 یا اس کی کتاب میں ایسا ہی ہے۔ جب اس نے مجھ سے انٹرویو لیا اور میں نے شراب پینے کے لئے کچھ نکات شیئر کیے اور وہ ہمیشہ مجھ سے ہسٹامائن بلاک خریدتا تھا۔ اور ہسٹامائن بلاک ڈی اے او ہے۔ لہذا اب جب نادیہ شراب پی رہی ہے ، جو کہ بہت کم ہے ، تو وہ ہسٹامائن بلاک لیتا ہے ، جو ڈی اے او ہے ، اور اس کی ٹانگیں اب نیند نہیں آتی ہیں۔

کیٹی: یہ دلچسپ ہے۔ اور میں یقینی طور پر نوٹ لے رہا ہوں۔ میں بہت سارے لوگوں سے سنتا ہوں جن کا الکحل پر کسی طرح کا رد haveعمل ہوتا ہے ، خواہ وہ چہرہ بہتا ہوا ہو ، بے حسی ہو یا چہرے میں گلنا ہو یا جیسے ، احساس محرومی ختم ہو ، اور اس طرح یہ سب ہسٹامائن میں باندھ سکتے ہیں۔

ڈاکٹر لنچ: سو فیصد۔ ہاں ، سو فیصد۔ اور پھر الڈی ہائیڈیز تک الکحل ٹوٹ جاتا ہے۔ اور یہ الڈی ہائیڈس انتہائی زہریلے ہیں۔ اور اس سے آپ کی قابلیت بھی سست ہوجاتی ہے۔ اور پھر سیل کے اندر ہسٹامائن سے جان چھڑانے کے لئے میتھیلیشن کی بھی ضرورت ہوتی ہے۔ لہذا ، شراب نہ صرف سیل ہسٹامائن پروسیسنگ کے باہر سست ہوتا ہے ، بلکہ یہ سیل پروسیسنگ کے اندر بھی سست ہوجاتا ہے۔ لہذا اسی وجہ سے آپ کو بے خوابی ، چڑچڑاپن ، سر درد ، درد شقیقہ ، چہرے پر بہنے اور ممکنہ طور پر سانس لینے میں بھی دشواری ہوسکتی ہے۔ اور پھر شراب میں سلفائٹس ہیں ، جو ایک اور جین ہے۔ اور اسٹریٹجین کے پاس کوئی چیز نہیں ہے… ہم نے SUOX ، سلفائٹ آکسیڈیس نامی اس خاص جین میں کسی جینیاتی تغیرات کی نشاندہی نہیں کی ہے۔ لیکن یہ جین آرسینک کے لئے ماحولیاتی لحاظ سے بہت حساس ہے۔ اور پینے کے پانی میں آرسنک پھیلتا ہے۔ تو آپ کو اپنا پانی فلٹر کرنا پڑے گا۔ اور پھر ایک معدنیات ہے جس کو کہتے ہیں مولڈڈینم ، M-O-L-Y-B-D-E-N-U-M۔ اور مولیبڈینم واقعی طور پر ، سلفائٹس کو ہٹانے میں واقعی مؤثر ہے۔ اور شراب میں سلفائٹس زیادہ ہیں۔ لہذا ، میں نے اپنے بارے میں صرف چار دن پہلے ہی تجربہ کیا تھا کیوں کہ میں شاذ و نادر ہی شراب پیتا ہوں کیونکہ مجھے اس سے اچھا نہیں لگتا ہے ، اور اس لئے میں بس رک گیا۔ لیکن میں جانتا ہوں کہ بہت سارے لوگ شراب کو پسند کرتے ہیں اور اسی لئے میں کوشش کر رہا ہوں کہ لوگوں کو شراب سے لطف اندوز کرنے میں مدد فراہم کرنے میں مدد ملے۔ اور اسی طرح ، میں نے تقریباoly ایک مائکروگرام مولیبینم لیا ، غالبا an ایک اونس شراب پینے سے پہلے۔ اور میں عام طور پر شراب پینے سے اچھا محسوس نہیں کرتا ہوں۔ یہ صرف بھاری احساس ہے۔ یہ سر درد نہیں ہے۔ یہ گرم نہیں ہے یہ ذرا آہستہ اور سر میں صاف نہیں ہے۔ اور اس بار ، میں نے مولڈڈینم لینے کے بعد اسے پیا تھا ، اور میں اب بھی اپنے سر کے بارے میں اپنی واضح وضاحت کر رہا ہوں۔ مجھے سکون محسوس ہوا۔ اور یہ خوشگوار تھا۔ میں ، جیسے ، “واہ ، لوگوں کو شراب پینا پسند نہیں تھا کیونکہ یہ پہلا موقع ہے جب میں واقعتا actually بغیر شراب پی رہا ہوں۔”

تو ، یہ اچھا تھا. اور اس طرح جب آپ اس طرح بائیو کیمسٹری کو سمجھتے ہیں اور آپ کو جینیاتی تغیرات اور جینوں کی ضرورت نہیں ہوتی ہے کہ وہ اپنے جینوں کو زیادہ سے زیادہ کام نہ کریں ، تو یہ ایک اور بڑی بات ہے۔ آپ جانتے ہیں ، مجھے نہیں معلوم کہ میرے سلفائٹ آکسیڈیس جین میں جینیاتی تغیرات موجود ہیں ، اور مجھے نہیں لگتا کہ میں کروں گا۔ وہ بہت ، انتہائی نایاب اور وہ بہت سخت ہیں۔ اور جب آپ کے پاس کوئی مسئلہ ہوتا ہے تو ، آپ پیدائش کے وقت ہی اس کی نشاندہی کریں گے اور یہ کچھ اہم معاملات ثابت ہونے والا ہے۔ لیکن سلفائٹ حساسیت لوگوں کے ل a ایک بہت بڑا ، بڑا مسئلہ ہے اور عام طور پر ورزش سے متاثرہ دمہ یا دمہ ، عام طور پر ، یا سانس لینے میں دشواریوں ، یا خارش والی جلد ، یا سر درد ، یا چڑچڑاپن کا باعث بنتا ہے ، لیکن مولڈبینڈم اس کا خیال رکھے گا۔ لہذا ، ایک بار پھر ، آپ کی بائیو کیمسٹری کو سمجھنے کی خوبصورتی اور آپ کی اسٹریٹجین رپورٹ کو دیکھنے کی خوبصورتی ان درد کے نکات کی نشاندہی کرنے میں معاون ہے۔

کیٹی: یہ اتنا اہم نکتہ ہے۔ Okay fine. لہذا ، ایک اور جس کو میں چھونا پسند کروں گا ، کم سے کم مختصر طور پر میتھائنائن کا راستہ ہے ، اور اس کا کیا مطلب ہے ، اور اس کی پوری پوری تصویر میں اس کے مضمرات کیا ہیں۔ ایک بار پھر ، حقیقت میں ، اکاؤنٹ کو مدنظر رکھتے ہوئے ، مجھے آپ کا ڈومینو مشابہت پسند ہے جو ہم یہاں ٹریڈنگ نہیں کرتے ہیں۔ یہ ایک جامع چیز ہے۔ لیکن ان لوگوں کے لئے جو اس سے واقف نہیں ہیں ، کیا آپ یہ بتاسکتے ہیں کہ یہ کیا ہے اور جسم میں کیا ہورہا ہے؟

ڈاکٹر لنچ: اوئے ، لڑکے ، میتھائنائن کا راستہ ہے ، اگر یہ مرتے وقت کام نہیں کررہا ہے۔ میرا مطلب ہے ، یہ بہت اہم ہے۔ لہذا میتھیونین راستہ کے لئے ایک اور اصطلاح میتھیلیشن راستہ ہے۔ اور آپ نے شاید یہ سنا ہے کہ مختلف مختلف پوڈ کاسٹوں میں تھوڑی دیر کے لئے انٹرنیٹ کے آس پاس اچھال رہا ہے۔ اور میتھیلیشن انسانی جسم میں ایک اور رد عمل ہے۔ یہ ایک بہت اہم ہے ، لیکن یہ صرف ایک اور رد عمل ہے۔ یہی ہے. یہ ایک اور ڈومنو ہے۔ اور میتھیونائن ایک امینو ایسڈ ہے جو آپ کو پروٹین سے ملتا ہے۔ اور میتھیونائن کے لئے ایک اور اصطلاح میتھیل ہومو سسٹین ہے۔ اور آپ نے ہومو سسٹین سنا ہوگا۔ اور ہومو سسٹین ایسی چیز ہے جس میں ہسٹامائن کی طرح بہت زیادہ خراب ریپ ہوتا ہے۔ لیکن ہومو سسٹین ، آپ کو زیادہ سے زیادہ سطحوں میں بھی ہونا پڑے گا۔ آپ اسے بہت کم نہیں چاہتے ہیں ، لیکن دنیا کی کوئی بھی لیب ہومو سسٹین کی بہت کم بات نہیں کرتی ہے۔ وہ صرف اس کی اطلاع نہیں دیتے ہیں۔ وہ اس کو فی لیٹر 15 مائکرو مول سے کم چاہتے ہیں۔ لیکن یہ اچھا نہیں ہے۔ آپ جانتے ہیں ، میں نے کم ہومو سسٹین والے لوگوں کو دیکھا ہے اور وہ جدوجہد کررہے ہیں۔ لیکن ہومو سسٹین ، اگر اس کی بلندی بڑھ جاتی ہے تو ، حمل کے مسائل کا باعث بن سکتی ہے۔ اس سے اعصابی مسائل پیدا ہوسکتے ہیں۔ اس سے ہر طرح کے آکسیڈیٹیو تناؤ اور مقامی میتھائنین پیدا ہوسکتی ہے ، جو جسم کا بنیادی آکسائڈیٹ آکسیڈینٹ ہے۔ یہ آپ کو معلوم ہے ، آپ کی نااہلی ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، پت پیدا کرتے ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، جس کے بعد وہ ایس آئی بی او کا سبب بن سکتا ہے اور آپ کی فاسفیٹیلچولین کی خلیوں کی جھلی پیدا نہیں ہوتی ہے۔ آپ کے پٹھوں ، شاید آپ کا بچہ ، آپ جانتے ہو ، بات کرنے میں سست ہے۔ وہ بڑھنے میں سست ہیں۔ ان کا سر چھوٹا ہے۔ ان کا پٹھوں کا لہجہ وہاں نہیں ہے۔ وہ انتہائی کمزور ہیں۔ تو یہ سب کچھ میتھائنائن کے راستے سے ہے جو کیٹی نے جنم لیا ہے۔

اور میتھائن کا راستہ معاون ہے… بنیادی چیز یہ ہے کہ کچھ بنانا۔ اور یہ ایس ایڈینوسیل میتھائنائن نامی کچھ بناتا ہے۔ اور میتھائنین کی اس فعال شکل کو سیم کہتے ہیں۔ اور یہ ایک ضمیمہ ہے جو آپ جان سکتے ہیں ، تکمیلی کمپنیوں میں حاصل کرسکتے ہیں۔ اور ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، لہذا بہت سارے لوگ کہتے ہیں ، “اوہ ، میرا میتھیلیشن اچھا نہیں ہے ، میں باہر بھاگ کر سیم کو خریدوں گا۔” ٹھیک ہے ، جس طرح ہم بات کر رہے ہیں ، وہ صرف ایک خاص ڈومینو ہے۔ اور میثیونائن کے راستے میں ڈومینو کی بہتات ہے۔ لیکن میں آپ کو سمجھنا چاہتا ہوں کہ یہ انتہائی توانائی کا مطالبہ ہے۔ لہذا اس خاص راستے کے ساتھ ، آپ کریٹائن تیار کرنے اور فاسفیٹائڈیلچولین تیار کرنے کے ل your اپنے میتھیلیشن کا بہت استعمال کررہے ہیں۔ آپ کے میتھیلیشن کا تقریبا 70 فیصد صرف ان دو چیزوں کے لئے کیا گیا ہے۔ اور آپ کی طرح ، “تو کیا؟” ٹھیک ہے ، کریٹائن واقعی ، دماغ کی نشوونما کے لئے واقعی اہم ہے اور کریٹائن واقعی ، پٹھوں کی نشوونما اور ہائیڈریشن کے لئے بھی واقعی اہم ہے۔ اور اس طرح اگر آپ کا بچ childہ ہے جس کی سست پیش رفت ہوئی ہے ، تو آپ جانتے ہو ، تقریر میں تاخیر ، عضلات کا خراب لہجہ ، شاید وہ یا تو بہت اچھی طرح سے نہیں سیکھ رہے ہیں ، ہوسکتا ہے کہ انھیں حرکت میں ہونے والی خرابی کی شکایت ہو ، کریٹائن ایک بڑی چیز ہے۔ اور جو ہو رہا ہے وہ ہے ان کا میتھونائن کا راستہ گندا ہے اور یہ بہت اچھی طرح سے کام نہیں کررہا ہے۔ اور اگر یہ بہت بہتر کام نہیں کررہا ہے تو ، ان کی کریٹائن بنانے کی صلاحیت ختم ہوجاتی ہے۔ اور نہ صرف یہ ، اگر یہ ہو رہا ہے اور ان کی تخلیق کی سطحیں اچھ ،ی نہیں ہیں تو ، جو ہو رہا ہے وہ ان کی فاسفیٹائڈیلچولین اچھی نہیں ہے۔ اور یہ فاسفیٹائڈیلکولن آپ کے جسم میں ہر ایک خلیوں کی جھلی کا بنیادی عمارت ہے ، جس میں آپ کو کھربوں اور کھربوں ہیں۔ آپ کے جسم پر جلد کا ایک ایک خلیہ فاسفیٹیلچولین سے بنا ہے۔ آپ کے نظام ہاضمہ میں ہر ایک خاص خلیہ ، آپ کے ہاضمہ کو اس میں فاسفیٹائڈیلکولین مل گئی ہے۔ یہ ہر جگہ ہے۔

اگر آپ کے پاس پتتاشی کے مسائل ہیں ، تو آپ جانتے ہیں ، ہوسکتا ہے کہ چربی دار غذائیں یا آپ کے پاس ایس آئی بی او ہو کیونکہ ایس ای بی او ایک پتتاشی کا مسئلہ ہے ، جسے بہت سارے لوگ سمجھتے ہیں ، لیکن اگر آپ کے پاس آپ کے پتتاشی میں فاسفیٹائڈیلکولن کی ضرورت نہیں ہے تو ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، آپ کو 10 کی ضرورت ہے۔ فاسفیٹائڈیلکولین کے کچھ حصے کولیسٹرول۔ لہذا اگر آپ بہت ساری چربی کھا رہے ہیں اور آپ میتھونائن کے راستے کی حمایت نہیں کررہے ہیں تو آپ کے پاس سست پت ہوگا۔ یہ پھنسنے والا ہے ، اور آپ کو پتھراؤ ہونے والا ہے ، اور آپ ڈاکٹر کے پاس جانے والے ہیں ، اور وہ کہیں گے ، “اوہ ، آپ کو اسے نکالنے کی ضرورت ہے۔” لہذا آپ اپنے پتتاشی کو باہر نکالتے ہیں ، لیکن آپ کے پاس ابھی بھی جگر کے مسائل ہیں۔ Why? کیونکہ آپ میتھونائن کے راستے کی حمایت نہیں کررہے ہیں اور آپ کے فاسفیٹیلڈکولین کی سطح بہت کم ہے۔ لہذا آپ کو فاسفیٹائڈیلچولین کی تیاری میں مدد کی ضرورت ہے ، جو میتھائنین راستے سے ہوتا ہے۔ وہاں بہت کچھ ہے۔ وہاں بہت کچھ ہے۔

کیٹی: یہ بہت دلچسپ ہے۔ اور مجھے لگتا ہے کہ یہ ایک اہم نکتہ ہے۔ مجھے پیار ہے کہ آپ نے ایس ای بی او جیسے پتتاشی کا مسئلہ بننے کی چیزیں سامنے لائیں۔ اور یہ ساری چیز ، جیسے ، ایک بار پھر ، مجھے پسند ہے کہ آپ اجاگر کرتے رہیں ، ظاہر ہے ، اس میں سے کوئی بھی تنہائی میں نہیں ہے۔ لیکن اگر کسی کو ان میں سے کچھ پریشانی ہو رہی ہے تو ، کیا فاسفیٹائڈیلچولین ایسی چیز ہے جس کے ساتھ ہمیں تکمیل کی جانی چاہئے یا ہمیں جسمانی طور پر اسے جسمانی طور پر بنانے میں مدد فراہم کرنے کی ضرورت ہے؟

ڈاکٹر لنچ: دونوں۔ دونوں۔ اپنے میتھونائن کے راستے کو صاف کرنے کے ل it ، یہ بہت کام کرتا ہے۔ اور اس طرح ، آپ جانتے ہو ، آپ یہاں بیٹھے ہوئے ہیں اور آپ یہ ساری معلومات سن رہے ہیں ، اور میں نے شاید آپ کو کچھ علاقوں میں کھو دیا ہے۔ اسٹریٹجین کے ساتھ اچھی بات یہ ہے کہ آپ کو یہ نقشے ، یہ نقشے ملتے ہیں۔ لہذا میں ایک حقیقی بڑا بصری سیکھنے والا ہوں۔ تو میں آپ کے ساتھ ہوں۔ اگر میں یہ ساری چیزیں نکال رہا ہوں ، اور آپ کی طرح ہو ، “ٹھیک ہے ، تو آپ نے مجھے کھو دیا ہے۔ مجھے یہ سامان کاغذ پر دیکھنے کی ضرورت ہے۔ اور اسی طرح اسٹریٹجین میں ، آپ کو یہ راستے سب لکھے ہوئے مل جاتے ہیں ، آپ کو فاسفیٹیلکولین الفاظ نظر آتے ہیں ، آپ کو میتھائنز نظر آتے ہیں ، آپ سیم کو دیکھتے ہیں ، آپ ہومو سسٹین کو دیکھتے ہیں ، آپ دیکھتے ہیں کہ یہ کس طرح سرکلر ہے اور کیا غذائی اجزاء کی ضرورت ہے ، کیا چیزیں اس پر اثر انداز ہو رہی ہیں۔ ، اور اسی طرح. تو آپ کو یہ بصری شبیہہ آپ کے جینیاتی تغیرات کے اوپری حصے پر ملتا ہے۔ لیکن جب یہ فاسفیٹیلچولین کی سطح کی کم کی بات آتی ہے تو ، ہاں ، آپ ضمیمہ کرسکتے ہیں۔ مسئلہ یہ ہے کہ فاسفیٹیڈیلچولین کسی حد تک چربی والی ہے۔ تو ، یہ ایک قسم کی شکل میں ہے ، ٹھیک ہے؟ لہذا یہاں آپ کو فاسفیٹائڈیلکولن جذب کرنے کی ضرورت ہے ، لیکن اگر آپ کا پتتاشی بہت اچھا کام نہیں کررہا ہے کیونکہ آپ پت کو چھپا نہیں رہے ہیں ، اور آپ کو اپنے چربی کو جذب کرنے کے لئے پت کی ضرورت ہوتی ہے تو ، فاسفیٹائڈیلکولن آپ کو بہت اچھا محسوس نہیں کرے گا اور آپ کو پیٹ آسکتا ہے۔ پریشان ہوں یا صرف متلی محسوس کریں۔ لہذا آپ کو اپنے پتتاشی کی مدد کرنے کی ضرورت ہے۔ اور میں نے کیسی کو گستاخانہ ہیرا پھیری سے محبت کی ہے۔ مجھے نہیں معلوم کہ آپ نے کبھی بھی کسی کے ساتھ انٹرویو لیا ہے۔ لیکن ویسریریل ہیرا پھیری یہ ہے کہ یہ بنیادی طور پر نرم بافتوں کا کام ہے۔ بنیادی طور پر ، اس کے بارے میں سوچئے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، مساج تھراپسٹ ، لیکن صرف اپنے اعضاء اور آپ کے ویسرا پر کام کریں۔ اور اسی طرح ، جب میں نے اپنے پتوں کی بوڈیوں کو اندیشوں سے ہیرا پھیری کے ماہر ، ڈاکٹر ارون چوئی کے ذریعہ کام کیا تو یہ حیرت انگیز تھا۔ میری پسلی پنجرے کے نیچے بھاری ، دائیں رخا علاج کے بعد چلا گیا۔ یہ غیر معمولی تھا۔

میرے جینوں میں ، میں اپنے پتتاشی کے لئے چوستے ہیں۔ میرے پتتاشی کو بہت زیادہ توجہ اور فوکس کی ضرورت ہے۔ لیکن ہاں ، آپ انہیں نہیں روک سکتے۔ اور ایک اور بات جو میں بھی کہنا چاہتا ہوں وہ ہے آپ کی غذا آپ کے فاسفیٹائڈیلچولین کی سطح کی حمایت کرنے میں بہت بڑا کردار ادا کرتی ہے۔ اور سبزی خور ، اور سبزی خور ، انہیں اپنی غذا میں مناسب چولین نہیں مل رہی ہے کیونکہ کولین بنیادی طور پر گوشت اور مچھلی سے ہوتا ہے۔ اور یہ ٹھیک ہے۔ لیکن اگر آپ ویگان یا سبزی خور ہیں تو آپ کو فاسفیٹائڈیلکولین کی فراہمی کرنی چاہئے ، خاص طور پر اگر آپ حاملہ ہو یا دودھ پیتے ہو۔ اور کیا ہو رہا ہے ، اگر آپ ایک سبزی خور یا سبزی خور ہو تو ، آپ کے جسم کو وہ ساری فاسفیٹائڈیلکولین تیار کرنا ہوگی ، جو آپ کے سیم کی سطح کو ختم کردے گی ، جو آپ کے ہسٹامائن کی سطح کو بڑھا رہی ہے ، جو آپ کے ڈوپامائن کی سطح کو بڑھانے والا ہے ، اور آپ پریشان ہونے والے ہو۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، جلد کے مسئلے ہیں۔ آپ کو سانس لینے کی پریشانی ہوگی اور آپ کو حمل کا مسئلہ درپیش ہے۔ اور اس طرح ، فاسفیٹائڈیلچولین کی تکمیل کرکے ، آپ کو پتتاشی کے مسائل بھی ہیں ، جو ایس ای بی او کی وجہ بنیں گے۔ لہذا ویگینز یا سبزی خور ، سو فیصد کو فاسفیٹائڈیلچولین کی تکمیل ضروری ہے۔

کیٹی: یہ جاننا واقعی اچھا ہے۔ میں سبزی خور یا ویگن نہیں ہوں ، لیکن یہ وہ چیز تھی جو مجھے معلوم ہوئی تھی کہ یہ میری پہیلی کا ایک ٹکڑا ہے۔ اور تحقیق کے ذریعہ یہ محسوس کرنا کہ غذا سے کافی چولین حاصل کرنا یا بالکل ہی کافی مقدار میں چولین نہ ملنا ، حقیقت میں آپ کو جگر کے نقصان کا خطرہ مول سکتا ہے یا آپ کے جگر کے کام کو روک سکتا ہے۔ And I don’t tolerate eggs well, and so I don’t eat any egg yolks. And I realized at one point that I was likely not getting anywhere near the amount of choline I needed, and supplementing that was relatively life-changing for me and as far as how I felt. And so I definitely wanna echo what you say. Are there other types of choline supplements that can be beneficial as well? I know that there are some that are used almost as nootropics or would you have people focus more on the phosphetacote?

Dr. Lynch: Great point. And so, when you get your StrateGene report and you look at your methionine pathway, which we’re talking about, we’ve added a whole new thing in there for choline. And you’ll see the different directions that choline can go. So choline can go towards supporting phosphatidylcholine, which is what we’ve talked about. Choline can also go towards producing acetylcholine, which is a neurotransmitter in the brain for concentration. So, the body will determine it. So if you just take straight-up choline bitartrate, which is a common choline supplement over the counter. That will go anywhere. And either your body will say up, “Oh, you need to make some phosphatidylcholine and that’s where it goes.” That’s where it goes. And you’re thinking, “Wow, I don’t really have increased focus and attention from taking choline bitartrate.” Well, it’s because your body made a decision, and it used it to make phosphorylcholine because that’s where you needed to focus. If you take CDP choline, that is a different type of choline. And I’m looking for my methylation pathway on my desk here, and I don’t have it. Again, I’m a visual learner. So CDP choline, if you take that, that will be dedicated going towards straight-up phosphatidylcholine. And then there’s another type of choline, which I’m forgetting, which is more of a nootropic, you know, for supporting brain health. And I’ve been giving that to my youngest son, Theo. And he does better with increased acetylcholine in his brain. And I’ve taught him to be tuning in to how he feels. So anytime, before I take a supplement or before I give a supplement to someone, I always have them check in with themselves. “How’s your head? How are your muscles? How’s your heart rate? How’s your temperature? How’s your vision? You know, how are you generally feeling?”

And then you take a supplement. Five minutes later, check-in again. “My head is a bit lighter. My focus is a bit better. My mood is more calm and focused,” or “God, you know, I just took that I’m feeling kind of bit nauseous or, you know, off.” So you gotta tune in to how you’re feeling before you take a supplement. So Theo will tune in and he’ll take the acetylcholine, precursor of choline, and he’s like, “Yeah, thanks, dad. My focus is better now,” and he’ll just grind it as homework, which is pretty cool. Now a word for the warning, if you’re taking acetylcholine or you’re thinking, “Now God, I wanna try acetylcholine for my focus and attention” because it’s kind of a calming attention. It’s not a hyper-focus like tyrosine does. Tyrosine will help make your dopamine and norepinephrine. And that can be really… You can get aggressive from that stuff. As I share in my book, “Dirty Genes,” my oldest son Tasmin was taking tyrosine for his focus issues, and that helped a lot. But then he started taking more, and he became just a jerk. And we started fighting more until I knocked his tyrosine levels down. But if your acetylcholine levels are too high, it can lead to depression. And if you’re looking at your serotonin pathway on your Strategene, you might find out that you have a reduced ability to synthesize serotonin neurotransmitter or you have an increased ability to get rid of your serotonin. Those are both going to lead to lower serotonin levels. And if you’re supplementing with, you know, acetylcholine type neurotropics, that can lead to depression. And research is showing that, well, inflammation is kind of the root of depression. You know, so inflammation, generally, it’s not really a serotonin issue, it’s an inflammation issue. But if your serotonin levels are lower than your acetylcholine levels, you’re gonna get depressed from taking acetylcholine. So, keep an eye on that. So if you’re taking choline supplements for focus, you start getting depressed, back off on the acetylcholine supplements and maybe consider some 5-HTP as well to boost your serotonin.

Katie: Good to know. I also have heard from a few people, and I’m curious, if someone has a deficiency in some of these things, like we talked about with methylation, or with methionine, or now with choline, if they start supplementing, is there a possibility that in the short-term someone could have almost like too much being processed at once and have, like, a negative reaction in the short-term while their body adjusts? I’ve heard from some people who seem to have, like, short-term skin issues when they start supplementing with certain things to support when they find out they have a deficiency.

Dr. Lynch: Yeah, absolutely. So if you start supplementing with something, your body is now… Look, it’s really pretty simple. Genes have jobs to do and they need the tools in order to do it. So if you start taking a particular supplement, that supplement is gonna be absorbed by your body, hopefully, if it’s a good one, and then your genes will utilize that and it will go to work. And so, a particular gene might not be working very well, at all. In fact, it could not be working at all. And then you start supplementing, and then that nutrients starts flowing through your blood, and it gets into your cells, and your tissues, and then it starts hitting the gene, and the gene wakes up, it’s like, “Oh, hey, now I can start working again. And that gene starts working. And now, you know, the machinery starts going, that hasn’t been going for a while. And, you know, if you started up your mower in the spring, and it’s been sitting all winter, it can smoke more. And so, if you start up a particular gene that’s been idle for a long time by supplementing a particular nutrient, you’re probably gonna get some smoke. And what’s really important is, again, all those downstream, other genes need to be happening and supported. So, if you push a new gene that hasn’t been pushed in a while or a gene that hasn’t been turned on in a while, smoke is gonna happen. And so, I really try to encourage people to support other genes, downline first and do the fundamentals, you know. And I harp on that for about 200 pages in the book, “Dirty Genes” over and over and over again. I don’t want you supplementing until you do these things, do this first, do that first. Find your baseline, then supplement.

And if you do it that way, you’re gonna have a lot less, “Herxheimer reactions” or not feeling good after taking a particular supplement. Look, I want you to feel good when you take a supplement. I don’t want you feeling worse. I don’t want you reacting in any negative way. If you do, something wasn’t prepared quite right. And I know a lot of doctors will say, “Oh, just push through it. It’s a detox reaction or just push through it, you’ll end up tolerating it better.” Well, it’s like putting your hand on the stove when it’s hot. Oh, damn, that hurts. And you keep your hand there and it’s burning. And you keep holding your hand there and now your nerves are burned so now you don’t feel any burn at all anymore. So, obviously, that sounds stupid. You wouldn’t do that. But you want to prepare your body well, prior to supplementation. And a lot of people don’t wanna put in the work. They don’t wanna put in the effort. And I get it. I don’t either. But if you do it that way, the results, you’re gonna get are gonna be lasting. And it’s going to lead to actually decreased amount of supplements that you need to take. And it’s going to be saving you money. And ultimately, you’re gonna be a lot healthier overall.

Katie: That makes complete sense. Another thing we’ve touched on in passing a little bit, the idea of skin issues, and especially how they can kind of spike with some of these scenarios. But I hear from a lot of parents who have kids with various types of skin issues, specifically things like eczema or even just food reactions that tend to exhibit in itchy skin or some type of skin, just skin reactions, in general. Are there any commonalities that tend to go back to genetics when it comes to this or in the work that you do, have you found anything that can be helpful for parents?

Dr. Lynch: Yeah, when you get your StrateGene report, you go right to the histamine pathway. And you look at that, and you study it, and you read about the genes that we have on there. It’s histamine and it’s also detoxification overload. And your liver is overwhelmed. Your liver is a major, major, major detoxification organ in your body. Your liver is massive and heavy. And kid’s livers are not, you know, fully, fully developed, and they’re under constant bombardment as well, especially if they’re not eating very well. And so, if they’re not eating very well, their liver’s gonna get bombarded. And if liver gets bombarded, what’s gonna happen is the skin gets issues because your skin is actually your largest detoxification organ. A lot of people will say… If I ask people, what’s your largest detoxification organ, they’re gonna say, “Oh, it’s my liver.” No, it’s actually your skin. So if you have skin issues of psoriasis and eczema, your liver is overworked and overwhelmed, and so now your skin is making up for it and trying to make up for it. And so what we do is we throw steroid creams on there, try to tell your skin to shut up. And now, what’s happening is you’re overloading your liver even more, which is gonna lead to hormone issues and now they’re gonna have all sorts of problems. So you’ve got to support the liver in order to support the skin. So phosphatidylcholine would be a big one. You gotta eat clean. You gotta go to that Environmental Working Group, type in Dirty Dozen EWG, print it out. Do not eat those Dirty Dozen foods. You go to parties and they got apples, and grapes, and strawberries, and all these things kids munch on and parties all the time, they’re in the Dirty Dozen. Our kids are chowing on them. And they’re overwhelming the liver, which goes right to their skin. So you have to eat clean foods. And it is not easy in this day in age, especially with how busy we all are as parents as well.

Thankfully, my kids, I don’t think they’ve ever had any eczema or psoriasis. But you know, we also eat pretty clean. We’re not perfect by any means, but I also give them supplements every day. I rotate it. But so what do you do for parents, you know, trying to support their kids with eczema and psoriasis, A, clean up their food, buy organic, or if you’re not gonna get those organic, don’t buy them at all, you know, or start growing them in your own yard away from your neighbor who sprays their yard, which is an issue. My home has an issue there too. Another one, you want to read the DAO chapter in “Dirty Genes.” And the book “Dirty Genes” actually comes when you order the StrateGene report. So if you wanna order your StrateGene genetic test, it will come with the book “Dirty Genes” because education first. It also comes with the Dirty Genes Course. So you’re gonna wanna read the DAO chapter. You’re gonna want to watch the food modules in the Dirty Genes Course as well. And, you know, other things. But for immediate support, I know parents are waiting, like, “What can I do right now?” It’s gonna take time, A, B, stop it with the steroids. Get rid of them and you can use a probiotic from Seeking Health called ProBiota HistaminX. And so, ProBiota HistaminX is a… It’s selected strains of bacteria that are shown to support histamine metabolism. And Katie, I tried to supplement for about five months before I sent it to market, before I made it available. And I was blown away by how effective it was. It was life-changing for me and my family. You said how choline was life-changing for you, this probiotic was life-changing for me. So, parents need to have their kids swallow the ProBiota HistaminX capsule. That’s gonna be a big one.

Also, this is a cool little trick. Get a little spray bottle and, you know, you don’t need a big one just to, you know, like I say, an eight-ounce spray bottle or so, you know, fill it just with a few ounces of filtered water, no chlorine, filtered water because chlorine kills bacteria. That’s why it’s added to drinking water. So filltered water, few ounces, maybe even just an ounce or two. And then having the cap open still in the spray bottle, take about three capsules of ProBiota HistaminX, dump them into the filtered water in your spray bottle, shake it around, put the spray bottle, you know, lid on, and spray the kid’s skin, and watch what happens. It’s crazy. And then keep the spray bottle in the fridge. So, again, that’s why you wanna get a small spray bottle. You know, and so by taking the ProBiota HistaminX orally, you’re helping to reduce histamine in the gut because histamine is associated heavily with eczema and psoriasis. But then when you add it topically, it’s gonna just take the itch right out and it’s gonna help a lot. Also, you can take our vitamin D drops and you add the Vitamin D, right to the eczema as well. Because low Vitamin D is also associated with worse, itching and scratching from eczema and psoriasis. So you take our liquid vitamin D, which is 2,000 IU per drop of vitamin D3. And it’s really strong, potent stuff. And you just drop a few drops of it right on their skin as well and it’s gonna help a lot. But diet is first.

Katie: Yeah, absolutely. Diet is so fundamental there.

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Before we move on, are there any other general ways that we can all make sure we’re supporting our livers? I think things you’ve already mentioned, of course, like, avoiding the really big offenders are huge. But are there any other things that are just commonly missing in the modern diet or that we’re depleted more naturally with our modern lifestyle that we can be cognizant of to support?

Dr. Lynch: I would say it’s a lifestyle thing. If you look at Scandinavia and Russia, and, you know, some of the other countries like Turkey, you know, and Japan, a lot of countries focus on fading. They focus on steam. They focus on sweating. We don’t. Our culture, we don’t focus on that. But a lot of cultures focus on sweating. You know, the Native American Indians, you know, Native Americans, they use sweat lodges. And so, we have all these ancient techniques that are just ignored by us. And so we have to be bringing those things back. So, sweat. Now, you’re gonna say, “All right, what type of sauna do I need? Do I need infrared? Do I need the rock? So I can just get those little personal ones? Which one do I need?” It doesn’t matter. Just sweat, just sweat. And so a colleague of mine, Dr. Steven Jenis, a brilliant, environmental medical doctor, up in Canada, I think he’s retired now. But he published a paper where he looked at the effectiveness of various types of sauna in sweating, in general, to remove chemicals from the blood. We call them toxins, but they’re not toxins. So let’s get the terminology right, and let’s use chemicals because that’s what they really are. You get toxins from fish. You get toxins, you know, from particular bacteria, but we’re surrounded by chemicals. They’re not really toxins. So we got to get rid of these chemicals and sweating is the best way to do it. And he in his research found it didn’t matter how you sweat, just sweat. You can even put on a couple of sweatshirts on, and beanie, and gloves, and go for a walk, a brisk walk and start sweating. You know, so it doesn’t matter, hot bath. It doesn’t matter. Just sweat. And if you use a sauna, which is the best way because you sweat so profusely, you gotta make sure you hydrate. I have a sauna guide at Seeking Health somewhere, so, Katie, you can ask my team for that. And the sauna guide is very, very useful because you don’t sauna right, you’re gonna really deplete yourself and you’re gonna hurt yourself. And the first time I ever saunad, I was in there for 30 seconds and I felt awful. Now I can be in a sauna for 30 minutes to an hour in one sitting. And I do really really well. But it took me a long time to get there.

Katie: I’m a big fan of sauna as well. And I’ve worked up over time. And to your point, I think that’s really important to remember is when you look at the actual data and the studies, the beneficial aspect of saunas, in general, it’s the heat and then the resulting sweat. So there’s all this debate about what is the best type of sauna and does it need to be infrared? And I fully agree with you. The bottom line is that you need to get hot. And you need to sweat. Period.

Dr. Lynch: Yeah. And hot yoga. I mean, my wife loves or hot yoga and she says she just goes off in the hot yoga, and she feels great. So, you know, you could do that too. What I want to also urge people, when you do sauna or you do hot yoga, is you put towels down on your sauna. You do not wanna get those chemicals impregnated into your wood because the next time you go in there, they’re gonna be in there. And if you have friends coming over, they’re gonna drip all their gunk in your wood and your sauna, and it’s there to stay. So, get towels, lay the towels down on your benches. And you might even wanna be in a sauna with a t-shirt and some shorts or some underwear to help absorb that. And then you can contrast with some cold showers if you feel strong enough to do that or just rinse off, but you need to immediately rinse off, and then you should scrape your tongue. So use a stainless steel tongue scraper or a copper tongue scraper. You can get those on Amazon or somewhere. But scrape your tongue and then brush your teeth because when you’re in a sauna, you are, you know, getting a lot of volatile organic compounds out of your body because the heating point goes up. So you can be breathing all sorts of chemicals out of your mouth, and so you need to make sure you have a lot of ventilation in your sauna. And good saunas do that already for you, but brush your teeth after and scrape your tongue.

Katie: That’s a great tip and one that I don’t feel like is often talked about. So I love that you brought that up. You also mentioned in passing supplements that you give to your kids. And, of course, there’s gonna be a genetic component here. The link to Strategene and to your book will be in the show notes at wellenessmama.fm. I encourage everybody to do that research for themselves and for their kids. But I’m curious, I would love to hear if you’re willing to share some of the supplements that you give to your kids, in general, or think that can be helpful for kids since so many parents are listening.

Dr. Lynch: Yeah, absolutely. So every night, the night ones are easier because they’re pretty routine. So in the book “Dirty Genes,” I talked about the Pulse Method. And the Pulse Method is basically tuning into how you’re feeling And then understanding what’s the mechanism or what you’re trying to support with that particular supplement is what’s the job of that particular supplement? understand what it’s supposed to do. Understand if you need that supports and then you take it or you don’t take it. So you need to understand what the supplement does And you need to understand how you’re feeling prior to taking it. So, in the evening, I give my boys fish oil, a very, very clean fish oiL, optimal fish oil. And this you’ve gotta make sure your fish oil is clean Because fish, in general, are toxic, the oceans are toxic. So our fish oil is IFOS certified. It’s an international fish oil organization that tests fish oils for rancidity, and heavy metals, and so on. And our fish oil has that. So, you can look at optimal fish oil. And that’s what we have there. And we also have optimal DHA. And I give the optimal DHA to Theo because, you know, he needs more the DHA because he’s younger and he needs more cognitive support. But the rest of us take the optimal fish oil. We also take the ProBiotix HistaminX every night, one capsule. And the older boys and actually, we’ve been taking liver nutrients almost every single night as well because your liver works between around, you know, according to Chinese medicine, I don’t know if it’s true or not. But organs tend to have times in which they work, which makes sense because if you’re eating all day, which we are, you know, throughout the day we’re eating and our liver is busy processing the sugar, the carbs, and the fats, and the chemicals in our environment every day as well but it’s busy processing hormones and neurotransmitters and all that stuff. So, it’s busy. So in the evening, our livers are working on detoxification.

So I support my boys and myself with liver nutrients in the evening so they can detoxify while they’re sleeping just because that’s when the liver is detoxing. And their acne is way, way better when they’re taking liver nutrients. You know, teenage boys don’t typically run out and talk about supplements for acne. But my boys now, you know, we’re kind of the quarantine hub, and our boys will have friends come over and use the weight, room and the gym, and so on. And someone will have acne and my son, Tasman, will go and throw him a bottle of liver nutrients and, “Here, take this.” And kids come back a few days later and the acne is way better. But those are the top three things we give. Another one I really like is Magnesium L-Threonate. Seeking Health does not have Magnesium L-Threonate but you can get Magnesium L-Threonate on Amazon, which is where we get ours. I forget the name of the company where we get ours. But just there’s Magnesium L-Threonate is basically Magnesium L-Threonate. It really helps sleep. So, it just kind of takes the edge of little bit. So Magnesium L-Threonate is what I give them all as well. So that’s evening, during the day, you know, I try to encourage my boys to tune in and take supplements as they need. I don’t give them supplements. I always… I try to train them to tune in to how they’re feeling, and teach them what supplements are what they’re for, and then they take them. And they’re not so good at it. I think my, my hope here is too strong. But, you know, during the day, they’ll take a multivitamin if they feel they need energy and if they feel they need focus.

Otherwise, if they don’t feel they need focus or increased energy, they don’t take it. And I want you to do the same thing. So I don’t take a multivitamin if you wake up in the morning and you feel energized, you’re already good to go, if your mood is already good. If you take a multivitamin, it’s gonna be too much. It’ll push you over the edge. So take those multivitamins on those days where maybe you eat worse, or you have an afternoon crash, or your morning isn’t so good, and your mood isn’t so hot, you’re a little bit kind of depressed or flat and your focus is crap. That’s when you need to reach for a multivitamin.

Katie: Great tips. Okay. To deviate a little bit, I have a note that I would love to delve into with you because I think it’s important. We’ve talked about obviously, genes don’t work in isolation. I think it’s also important to note that your genes are not your destiny. And we talked about this in our first podcast episode, which I would encourage you guys to listen to if you haven’t. That link will be in the show notes. as well. I’d like to briefly touch on the idea of genetics versus epigenetics, which I know is a somewhat controversial word. But make sure that we highlight the fact that just because you have any type of genetic predisposition for some of these things, that does not mean that these things cannot be helped with we talked about a lot in a practical sense. But can you just kind of walk us through the idea of genetics versus epigenetics and what that means?

Dr. Lynch: Yeah. So genetics is basically having the car in your driveway. It’s the gene. Now, what’s inside your car, that’s the epigenetics, you know? What you have in your glove box, Katie, is gonna be totally different than my glove box, which you have in your trunk, different than mine. And, you know, your car is probably different than my car. You know, your genes are different than my genes. But what’s really important is what you have in the car and also is the oil fresh or old is the gas, you know, better quality or not? So, the epigenetics is what basically helps your genes turn on and turn off. And it’s the epigenetics, which is the stuff around your genes, Epi stands for outside, you know, outside or above, forgive the exact meaning, but it’s basically on the outer side of the genes. And it’s what influences then to turn on or turn off. And Dr. Bruce Lipton was the first one who ever influenced me heavily in epigenetics. And it was his work, my first quarter, first-year med school year, where I watched his video on the old VHS tapes. And he was talking. And the video of “New Biology,” which is what he called it now, the old name was “Biology of Belief.” And he talked about how it was our perception of the environment is which turned our genes on or off. So, by our eyes, looking out into the world, it’s what we perceive, then turns our genes on or off. So if my eyes are looking out and I see beautiful nature right now, which I do, my genes are in a calm, collected state. If you’re living in downtown Portland, which has had, you know, protests, i.e. riots for 100 plus days, and you look out, and you’re in apartment building on the 10th floor, and you look down, and you see riots, your environment’s different than mine, you’re gonna be telling your genes to have fight or flight, a lot of norepinephrine, and a lot of dopamine made, so you can be alert and focused in and ready to defend yourself, or run away.

So your environment is really, really important. And that’s epigenetics. So, look, most genetic reports focus on the genetics. And it’s nice to know what kind of car you drive, but you wanna know the details. And when you order StrateGene, and you look at the pathways, yes, there’s genes all over it. But on every single gene, there’s epigenetic control points on every single one on the diagram itself. So, if you’re looking at that DAO gene, which we talked about earlier, when I was sharing with you that there’s acetaldehyde and alcohol, and metform, and all these things dirty that particular DAO gene and slow it down even more, where did I get that? I just looked at the DAO gene on my StrateGene planner. Now, I also saw that my wife has a slower DAO gene. So her particular gene she was born with is slow for DAO. So, I see that genetically susceptible to having problems processing histamine from food and drink and from bacteria. I also see that the purple next to that the DAO gene is giving me insights, “Oh, yeah, she does have got inflammation. Yes, acetaldehyde could be from coming from yeast. Yes, Metformin could be an issue, not for her, but it could be an issue from other people.” So it gives you epigenetic controls immediately right there and it also gives you the nutrients that you need to support that particular gene, right there on that on that bubble, too. So, it’s a very handy reference. And there’s a black line that goes right from DAO right next to the ALDH gene, which also shares, again, the genetic findings, plus the epigenetic controls. So, it’s right there. So you get the beauty of both when you get StrateGene.

Katie: Like I said, I’ll make sure that’s linked in the show notes. If you guys are listening while you exercise or drive, those links are always at wellnessmama.fm. And I’m glad that you brought up the Biology of Belief and Bruce Lipton because another note I had was to talk to you about the mindset piece of this and how mind can affect genes because I think this part is not talked about. And it’s absolutely fascinating. And it was a huge part of my own kind of huge transformation in the last couple of years was the mindset side. So, I know this is could be its own podcast all in of itself. But give us a little bit of the broad strokes of how mindset can affect genetics.

Dr. Lynch: There’s two pieces of art currently in our home, inspired by Gary Vay, Gary Vaynerchuk. So, there is a goldfish swimming with a shark fin strapped to its back on one of the pieces of artwork. And above that it says, “mindset is everything.” And that is in the hub of my boys. So our boys, three bedrooms all come out to this common area. And they all see that mindset is everything every single day, multiple times a day. So, mindset is everything. if you believe something, that is going to influence your action. And that action is gonna, you know, lead to your next belief. And Tony Robbins talks about this a lot. If you believe that you are not gonna do well when you go on stage and present to people, you know, at your work or in school, or wherever you’re gonna present, then you’re gonna get on stage and you’re not gonna perform very well which then leads to you get an email to come present again a month later, somewhere else. But now you’ve reinforced that bad belief that you suck on stage. You go again, you’re like, “I’ll try it again.” You don’t have belief in yourself. And maybe your brother, or your sister, or a friend jokes, “Oh, go break a leg. Don’t suck as bad as you did last time,” which doesn’t help your mindset at all, but that’s what happens. You get on stage, and you start seeing people fade out, and then you’re like, “Oh God, I do suck.” And you just do even worse. You’re invited to speak again somewhere and you’re like, “No, I’m done. I’m not doing it again.” So mindset is massively important. If your mindset was opposite, “I’m gonna go kick ass and go present,” maybe you didn’t kick quite in the ass, but you took some constructive feedback. And you said, “Okay, I’m gonna do better next time and you’re gonna do better, and then you do better. And so you have incremental improvements. And so that’s what happened to me. First time ever presented on stage, I was shaking so hard, Katie, that the glass of water in my hand spilled because my hand was shaking so hard.

But, you know, I still get nervous on stage, believe it or not.

But, you know, I can rein it in. So, mindset is massively important. Because what your mindset is your choice to believe in yourself for whatever the thing is going to turn on or off particular genes. If I’m gonna kick ass, I’m gonna get myself all pumped up like Tony Robbins, bouncing and hit himself in the chest, and throwing himself in cold plunges. He talks about state. He has to get himself in that state. Well, you know, he has a mental mindset for that. He also has a physical, you know, series of events that he goes through in order to get them even higher in that state. So when he does that, so he can perform and deliver his message, and serve people the best that he can. And so, prior to me getting on podcasts, I really try to focus now and I read the questions that are gonna be asked by the interviewer like you today. I get myself in that mainframe. And I tell myself that I’m gonna serve and support the audience that I’m listening to. And that is all I focus on. And so I get myself in that mindset. So mindset is massively important.

And if you’re struggling with mindset, you have to look at people around you who are polluting your mindset. And if you have people around you who are not supporting you, I’m not talking about giving you a trophy for sucking or being in last place. I’m talking about people who can help guide you and support you in getting better and improving, overall. I’m giving you the belief that you need in order to succeed, and we do that at Seeking Health, our company. And you know, our CEO is actually a high-performance coach taught by Brendon Burchard. And he goes through and he supports all of our team members with high-performance training, and they go to high-performance conference with Brendan. So, you know, it’s important. It’s very important.

Katie: That’s incredible. Yeah. And that the fact that your mindset, like you said, turn on and off genes, in a sense, is incredible to think about it and important to know that connection. And to have that and to realize it’s not just biology, and genes are not your destiny, like we mentioned. And this hour has completely flown by. You’re such a wealth of knowledge. I think we’ll have to have you on for round 3 at some point. I know there’s so much more we can talk about. But to respect your time, a couple of quick questions I love to ask at the end of interviews. The first being, if there is a book or a number of books that has dramatically impacted your life, if so, what they are and why?

Dr. Lynch: A number of books. You know, there’s a number/ And I’m an avid reader. And, you know, granted, I haven’t been reading as much as I should have lately because I’ve been so grinding on research. So, outside of medical research, which I read too much of is “Turning Pro.” I believe it’s Steven Pressfield. “Turning Pro” is a book that every single page is basically a lesson. It’s not your typical chapter book, where they go on and on and on about some particular thing. Every page is basically, you know, some type of something that you can put your hat on and implement in your life. And it is phenomenal. And he talks about either turn pro or you remain amateur. And when you are amateur, you are doing things that you remain in your comfortable state. You’re doing things that don’t really push you and they don’t scare you. If something scares you, you recoil back and you go back to doing this amateur. So, for example, you could be checking emails all day long, but what you really should be doing is researching something about formulating a new prenatal vitamin. And so, some days I can lean into that fear because formulating something that people actually swallow and ingest, Katie, is actually really scary. So, you know, you’re supporting people’s pregnancies, you’re supporting people’s histamine, their swallowing bacteria, which you’ve designed. That’s a big deal. And so, you know, sometimes I’ll find myself checking email or being on social media more when I should be leaning into the fear and formulating, you know, and trusting my abilities, and researching, and testing, and all that.

And so days where I’m more confident, I definitely turn pro. The days where I’m not so confident. I’m more of an amateur. And so “Turning Pro” is a great one there. “Think and Grow Rich,” I don’t like the title of the book, but “Think and Grow Rich” is one of those books… It’s the first personal growth, first kind of book ever on personal empowerment, personal growth. And he did a phenomenal knockout job. And it’s a good one on audible. I really enjoyed it on audible. My 17-year-old son, Tasmin, read it. He liked it, but he wasn’t, you know, that blown away by it. But he’s reading “Turning Pro” right now, and he really likes it. How to influence people is really important because, you know, a lot of people get caught up in themselves. And influence is not about being selfish. It’s about serving others. And, you know, God, what else? “Faithful Harvest” is a very important book that’s probably not talked about very much. But “Faithful Harvest” is a true story about how the agricultural industry was polluted through fertilizers with heavy metals. So it gives you an insight into what’s really going on in the environment. And it really pisses you off and it gives you an insight that you need to understand because you don’t hear about these types of things. So definitely read “Faithful Harvest.”

Katie: Awesome. Those links will be in the show notes as well. And based on everything you’re currently researching or past research, any parting advice you would leave with the listeners today?

Dr. Lynch: So, right now, these days is information overload. So, you just heard this podcast, you probably gleaned a lot of good information. And you’re kind of stressing out because God, there’s so much to do and so little time. And you’re so focused on your kids, and yourself, and your work, and your home, and maybe some stuff going on at work, you know, just focus on one thing. Just pick one thing that really, really resonated with you today and apply it. And it’s just the mindset and your focus, and your own internal thoughts of how you’re doubting yourself, just have your internal thoughts and start shifting that mindset to having something positive. But start with one thing, implement that one thing and just go with it. You don’t have to do everything at once. You know, you got your whole life in front of you. But every choice you make, every decision you make leads to a decision. And that decision either does one of two things, it’s going to clean your genes, which allows you to function better or it’s gonna dirty them, which is gonna make you perform not so good. So try to make your decisions that you choose to do every single day to clean your genes. And if you make a decision that dirties your genes and reduces your performance, that’s okay. Don’t beat yourself up over it. Just enjoy whatever it is you’re doing. Maybe you’re staying up late watching a movie, maybe having two glasses of wine instead of one. It’s all right, don’t be pissed off at yourself, just, you know, look at the next day, and clean your genes, and, you know, be good to yourself.

Katie: We have the perfect place to wrap up. Like I said, you’re a wealth of knowledge. This has been so much fun. We’ll have to hopefully have another round sometime soon. But thank you so much for your continued research in this and for the supplements you’ve developed, for all the work that you’re doing. I will make sure we link to all of the many resources we talked about in the show notes, but Dr. Lynch, thank you so much.

Dr. Lynch: Thank you, Katie.

Katie: And thank you as always for listening and for sharing your most valuable resource, your time, with both of us today, that we’re so grateful that you did and I hope that you will join me again on the next episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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