Getting Rid of Eczema for Good With Ana-Maria Temple

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Hello, and welcome to the “Valence Mama Podcast.” I’m from and This is Valence, with E at the end, a new line of personal care products for me. This episode is very deep on eczema because I still get a lot of questions from other parents about it. My second son, my third child had eczema, severe eczema, and we were able to change that. And we talk about some of the changes that helped her, and some of the changes that help many children today.

I’m here with Dr. Anna Maria Temple, the best-selling author and award-winning speaker at the Harvard Club of Boston. And she has a medical degree and she works in functional medicine. And it has helped more than 36,000 patients, both personally and through online courses, and has a specialty when it comes to eczema. So we talk really deeply about how this process can start before and during birth. What are some early interventions and what to do if a child has had eczema for a long time or has a very serious case. There are some special resources for this in the show note on If your child is struggling with eczema, I encourage you to check them out because I have learned that you can change it yourself. And I know how horrible it is to see your child suffer, so please take advantage of these resources, and I hope you find this event as helpful as I did. Without further ado, let’s join Dr. Temple. Dr. Anna Maria, welcome. Thanks for coming here

Dr. Anna Maria: I am very excited to be here. Thank you so much for keeping me

Katie: I’m excited to talk to you because you’re an expert in the field I hear from a lot of parents. And it seems like I’ve heard from a growing number of parents and family, and that’s eczema. And I know a lot of skin issues that come under this kind of umbrella, but I really, really want to like, and really want to go deeper and get some special things on it today because it My second son was with my third child. , And we finally managed to solve it but I know it was a long, long road. And I saw for myself how restless he was. As a parent, it’s heartbreaking to see your child go through this and of course the heart. Therefore, to expand l. When someone has eczema, let us know what is going on in the body.

Dr. Anna Maria: Well, you know, we had only one part; I mean, my family has the same thing. And I was able to have two kids who had eczema because, you know, I’m an overshirer. And that’s why I have to see it for myself. And in the traditional model, what is happening in our body, you know, we are often taught about the skin, that soon there is a problem and for that we have to treat the condition. When in fact, eczema actually starts from the inside out. And it usually, you know, starts with the mother’s diet for our babies, before pregnancy, during pregnancy, at birth. Once babies are born, and they go out into the world, and then rely on the food they have, and what’s happening is that babies’ bodies are getting different messages, And these messages are made internally, and often go right through the gut, and then depending on how the food is absorbed, it has to be sent to your skin cells. And if the signals go awry, you end up with abnormal skin, which for many people looks like eczema.

Katie: Got it. And I mean, I think we’ve seen them so far; I’ve seen them with young people, young children, even with eczema. So these are issues that can really start, right?

Dr. Anna Maria: This is, like we were saying, this is an epidemic. In the 1970s, eczema rates ranged from 1 in 15 to 1 in 20. Now we see the rate of 1 in 5. And in some countries, in some countries, it’s 1 in 3. You know, that’s not right. And it’s done; and it’s getting younger and bigger these days.

Katie: Wow. Okay fine. گٹچا۔ So, what is the first step when someone comes to you? I know you are a pediatrician too. I’m sure you’ve seen many, many children struggle with eczema. What is the first step when someone new comes to you?

Dr. Anna Maria: When I see them for the first time, I’m really talking about the kind of person we’re talking about, on their psychology, because most of what you see in the media, and The world of blogging on social media, and there, is a logical issue. And so we start with a mindset that we have to work from within, and that there is no other cream. You know, in 2017, I saw reports that people spent 37 37.7 billion on treating eczema, compared to اور 48 billion compared to cancer and chemotherapy items. So eczema costs us almost as much as chemotherapy, which is crazy about me, which means parents are constantly looking for the next topical lotion or medicine we can put on. So that’s our first argument, you know? This is because lotions and potions are not working because we have to start from the inside and we have to look at your baby’s diet. And that’s usually our first step, and it’s probably the hardest.

Katie: Yes, especially with younger people. I remember working with my son. What are some of the big nutrition, types, red flags you see, or stimuli that look normal? I know it’s very individual based on the gut but are there things that are more common?

Dr. Anna Maria: Oh, processed foods are number one and behind sugar. I have one of my family members, in fact, I saw him in the clinic a few days ago and he was like a father, “I’ve seen your video on eczema in children and you talk about sugar. Are So I started looking at my diet and before that I significantly reduced my sugar, you know it’s an epidemic. And he likes, “All my skin problems are gone. And then this Christmas, I really got on horseback and that’s why I made it free for everyone because it’s Christmas,” and that’s it, “you know. What happened? My eczema came back. And when I do, I’m excited, not because it happens because people can actually see the power of food.

Therefore, processed foods are number one. And, you know, we’ve become a world of convenience food. And it’s easy and we’re busy. And, you know, I have three kids, you have six kids, and maybe the listener has a lot of kids, and we have busy jobs and busy lives, and we’re running in a million directions. So convenience foods became the norm. And they’re so full of preservatives, food colors, and extras that most of the time we don’t even know what they mean. And really, everything is full of sugar now because sugar makes everything delicious. And, you know, in the 1980’s, it was a low-fat trend. And everyone was like, “Oh, you should have less fat.” Well, when they remove the fat from the product, well, they have to add sugar because if you take fat and don’t eat any sugar, its taste, well, bark or dodo, is terrible. happens. And so they put all the sugar. So now our children are constantly bombarded with processed foods and sugar.

So they are my number one and two. And the interesting fact is, in my eczema course, my parents came in, they said, “Listen, we’ve tried this diet, and we’ve tried this other diet.” And they never cut back on their processed foods or sugar. And this is the first step they take. He was blown away by these two steps, like, “Oh my gosh, that made a difference to the world.” And I would like to say that they are easy, they are very hard.

Katie: Yeah, I guess it’s not always easy. And what I really admire about Adm is Naval Roquanth, he says, “Easy choice, hard life. Hard choice, easy life.” That’s it, you know, the things that really matter and so on. The difference is not always easy but they are valuable. Do you see that gluten and dairy products or secondary products like eggs and peanuts are often triggered?

Dr. Anna Maria: Oh, yes. And then after processed foods and sugar, then milk comes next, then gluten, eggs, and nuts, and so on. Because we’ve seen them made; they’re in the top eight allergy foods. And there is a lot of literature to show that many children react very positively to the solution of eczema when they take out these different foods.

Katie: And I want to know, I know with my son that it wasn’t a lifelong intervention. We have to be really careful about that for a while. And since he’s gotten older and as he really has really strict eating habits since he was about 2 2 years old, he can use a lot of really good things now from really good sources, not from non-processed sources. Yes, but he can eat some special kind of things, milk, no problem, such things. Do you know that, like, if you really address the root causes, there is a chance that children will actually be able to handle some of these foods?

Dr. Anna Maria: Oh, of course, and I think that’s probably the biggest misunderstanding in the whole world, like, “Okay, let me go …” So you know, I have a lot of mama, Like, well, well researched, like, you know, “I know about processed foods. I know about sugar. I know about dairy, gluten. And they’re different. Things will go away but they don’t do much to rebuild the gut because we have to rebuild it. We have to balance it, we have to restore it. These are a lot of things that are not just eczema. There are cures for treatment but, as you said, we want to bring back food because the goal is not to deprive our children of the rest of their food. The goal is to rebuild the intestines so that children can tolerate different amounts, different temperatures, different foods, as you said. Effect because not all foods are created equal.

And then we want them to be as big as everyone else, make smart choices for their bodies and see what systemic makeup they eat compared to their friends. So the goal is to bring them back. And most of the time, except for people who come in and eat anaphylaxis. So if I have a teenager who has peanut influx, it will take a long time, it’s a completely different ball game, compared to the teenagers we’ve eaten and their eczema It gets better, we restore the gut, we regenerate. And fill it up, and then we’ll be able to get the food back. To everyone’s surprise, they are like that, you know; because we had it before, but we do it differently in the past.

Katie: I want to know if there is a possible link to gut bacteria that can lead to children. And I ask because my son who had eczema was my only C-section and it was navel prebia. So it wasn’t completely avoidable. And I didn’t know what I knew about gut bacterial transmission during the berthing process. But I found that it seems, at least the people I know in my personal life, have a strong connection to things like eczema that develops with children who are born during C-section. Or mothers who have complications and end up with too many antibiotics. .

Dr. Maria: Oh, my point, and I think it’s already starting. There are actually studies from New Zealand, and I just saw a study in Norway in which they are focusing specifically on Lactobacillus rheumatoid arthritis, a specific probiotic. And she told the pregnant mother to look at it. Whether there is a relationship with children who are less likely to have eczema later in life. And in a pair of studies with women who were 500, more than 500 of pregnant women, they found that the use of Lactobacillus rhinoceros compared with other probiotic strains reduced the risk of eczema in children by up to 50%. Is. So I think it has become; it is even before birth.

And then just like you said, I see a strong connection between a C-section and a baby born with eczema. Interestingly, though, when we look at literature, studies don’t really support it. They confirm that C-sections are linked to food allergies, asthma and other allergic issues, but not specifically eczema. However, I see a different story in my process. And the fun fact is a new bacterium; it’s not new, it’s actually an old bacterium. But in the 1960’s and before, our children were living with B-infants, it’s Bifidobacterium infantis, and all the kids got them. And scientists recently decided, like, “Let’s look at the child’s courage and see where they live.” And, you know, when I was trained, it was like, “Oh, courage is complex. Babies are born with barren courage. And that’s not really true.”

However, now the B-infants have virtually disappeared from the birthright of American children. It’s over. And, you know, there’s a lot of speculation going on, is this maternity? Is it antibiotics and meat? Is this all the lysol and bleach we’re putting everywhere, okay? And secondly, it was revealed that Mama has B infants, the baby has to be born vaginally to get it from the mother. And here’s an interesting fact for everyone. One of the reasons we give birth to these babies at birth is because they are born with the mother’s food. It’s very annoying but stay with me. بی انفینٹیس ماں کی آنت میں ہے ، جیسا کہ اس کی اندام نہانی میں ہے ، اور جو بچے آمنے سامنے پیدا ہوتے ہیں وہ بی انفنٹس کے ساتھ زیادہ نوآبادیاتی ہوتے ہیں ان بچوں کی نسبت جو سی سیکشن کے ذریعہ مختلف طریقے سے پیدا ہوتے ہیں۔

اور ، آپ جانتے ہو ، ماموں کے لئے انیما اور چیزیں لانے کا ایک بہت بڑا رجحان موجود ہے اس بات کو یقینی بنانا کہ آپ کی ترسیل کی میز پر پو کا حادثہ نہ ہو۔ ٹھیک ہے ، معلوم ہوا کہ دراصل ایک ارتقائی چیز ہے جو ہمارے بچوں کے لئے اہم ہے۔ لہذا ، میں دو بیکٹیریا میں سے ، میں یہ کہوں گا کہ لاکٹوبیلس رمانوسس اور بی انفنٹس دو بڑے کھلاڑی ہیں… اوہ ، اور ایک اور زبردست تفریح ​​حقیقت ، میں نے ابھی ایک بلاگ لکھنا ختم کیا ، لہذا میرے پاس بی پر بہت سارے حقائق حقائق ہیں انفینٹس لیکن انسانی چھاتی کا دودھ ایک بہت ہی مخصوص اولیگوساکرائڈ بناتا ہے ، جو بنیادی طور پر چینی کی ایک شکل ہے۔ اور اس کا واحد مقصد بی انفینٹس کو کھانا کھلانا ہے۔ یہ ماحول میں یا انسانی جسم میں بی انفنٹس کو کھانا کھلانا کرنے کے علاوہ کسی اور مقصد کا کام نہیں کرتا ہے۔

اور میرا مطلب ہے ، جب ہم اس کے ارتقاء پر نظر ڈالتے ہیں کہ کیا ہورہا ہے ، ہمارے بچوں کا طریقہ اس سے پہلے تھا اور آج ہمارے بچوں کے مقابلے میں ، جو ایکزیما اور دیگر امراض میں مبتلا ہیں اس کے مقابلے میں کم اہم دائمی مرض لاحق ہے ، اور ہم دیکھتے ہیں کہ یہ کلیدی کھلاڑی غائب ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، بس آپ کو حیرت ہوتی ہے ، کیا واقعی اس میں کوئی فرق نہیں ہے یا واقعی کوئی کنکشن ہے؟ میرا مطلب ہے ، میں اپنے گٹ بیکٹیریا اور ہمارے بچوں کے ایکزیما کے مابین واقعتا strong مضبوط کنکشن کے ساتھ جا رہا ہوں۔

کیٹی: میں مانتا ہوں۔ اور میں نے یہ کھیل دیکھا ہے ، جیسے میں نے اپنے بیٹے کے ساتھ ذکر کیا تھا ، لیکن یہ بھی ایک ڈوولا کے طور پر۔ میں نے کچھ ہی پیدائشیں کیں۔ اور ان میں سے بہت سے ، کم از کم چھ ، میرے خیال میں ، میرے پاس ماں موجود تھیں جو جانتے تھے کہ انہیں سی سیکشن رکھنے کی ضرورت ہے۔ اور اس طرح وہ بنیادی طور پر پہلے سے طے شدہ ، اس کے لئے ایک پورا عمل ہے۔ اور میں اس سے پہلے کی بات کی ہوئی بات سے لنک کرسکتا ہوں لیکن اگر بچے اندام نہ پیدا ہوئے ہوں تو بچے کے آنت کی تلاش میں مدد کرسکتا ہوں۔ یا یہاں دلچسپ باہمی تعلق بھی ہے ، میری آخری دو بیٹیاں اندام نہانی طور پر پیدا ہوئی تھیں ، لیکن وہ پیدا ہی ہوئی تھیں۔ اور چونکہ ان کی خلاف ورزی کی گئی تھی ، ان کے سر کو ایک اور طرح سے موڑ دیا گیا تھا۔ اور ، یقینا ، ان کے جسم سے پہلے کہ وہ سر اٹھائے۔ اور اس طرح مائکروبیل منتقلی بالکل ٹھیک اسی طرح نہیں ہوئی۔ اور ہمارے ساتھ ان کے ساتھ ابتدائی طور پر کچھ معمولی کھانے کی عدم برداشت کا سامنا کرنا پڑا تھا کہ ہمیں ، ان کی نالی کو بھی بہتر بنانے کے ل to ، ان کو بہتر بنانا تھا۔ اور اس لئے میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ وہاں واقعی ایک اہم مائکروبیل کنکشن ہے۔

اور مجھے لگتا ہے کہ ہم صرف واقعی یہ سیکھنا شروع کر رہے ہیں کہ یہ کتنا اہم ہے۔ اس قسم کی وجہ سے مجھے کچھ جنم ملا ہے جب میں نے اس وقت جنم لیا تھا جب آپ یہاں تک لاتے ہو اور ڈاکٹر بھی ، طرح طرح کے ، باہر نکل جاتے ہیں۔ مجھے پسند ہے ، “آپ سارا دن پیدائش پر رہتے ہیں۔ آپ جانتے ہو کہ واقعتا یہ کیسے ہوتا ہے۔ یہ کسی بھی طرح سے ایک بانجھ عمل نہیں ہے اور ایسا نہیں ہونا چاہئے۔ ” لیکن مجھے لگتا ہے کہ ہم اس کے بارے میں بہت کچھ سیکھتے رہیں گے۔ اور میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ والدین کے لئے یہ جاننے کے بارے میں آگاہی رکھنا بہتر ہے کہ اگر آپ کے بچے اس طرح دنیا میں داخل ہوتے ہیں تو ، یہ اچھی بات ہے کہ اس علم کو ان کی آنت کی صحت کے بارے میں متحرک رہنا چاہئے یا پھر بھی وہ پیدا ہوتے ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، پیچھے ، دھوپ ضمنی ، یا صرف بریک ، ایسی چیزیں ہیں جن کی مدد سے آپ ان کے آنت کی مدد کر سکتے ہیں۔ کیا ایسی دوسری چیزیں ہیں جن کی آپ والدین کو پہلے ہفتوں اور مہینوں میں شروع کرنے کی سفارش کرتے ہیں ، یہاں تک کہ ان بچوں کے لئے جو آنت کے لئے مددگار ثابت ہوسکتے ہیں؟

ڈاکٹر انا ماریہ: اوہ ، ہاں ، ان میں سے ایک دوسری چیز ہے جس کے بارے میں بہت سے والدین نہیں جانتے ہیں وہ ٹائیلنول اور ایسیٹامنفین کے بارے میں ہیں۔ بچوں میں ٹیلنول یا ایسیٹیموفین کے استعمال اور ان کے ایکجما کے خطرے کے خطرے کے درمیان ایک بہت مضبوط تعلق ہے۔ یہ ایک عمدہ مطالعہ تھا جس میں نوعمروں سمیت ہر عمر کے بچوں کو دیکھا جاتا تھا ، اور ایک سال سے زیادہ ان کی ٹیلینول کی کتنی خوراک تھی۔ کچھ کے پاس کوئی نہیں تھا۔ کچھ 12 مہینے میں ایک بار تھا۔ کچھ کو زیادہ خوراکیں تھیں۔ اور ٹیلنول کی زیادہ مقداریں ، باہمی تعلق اور ایکزیمے کی نشوونما کا خطرہ اتنا ہی زیادہ ہے ، جو مستقل بنیاد پر ٹیلنول استعمال کررہے ہیں ان نوعمروں میں ایکزیما پیدا ہونے کا 99 فیصد خطرہ ہے۔ یہ اتنا خوفناک ہے کیوں کہ ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، ہمیں بخار کا خوف ہے ، ہمیں دانت پیٹنے کا خوف ہے ، ہمیں امریکہ میں درد کا خوف ہے ، مجھے ڈیڑھ سال نیوزی لینڈ میں کام کرنے کا موقع ملا ، جہاں لوگ صرف درد کو قبول کرتے ہیں۔ وہ اس طرح تھے ، “ٹھیک ہے ، جب آپ زندگی گزارتے ہیں اور آپ کسی درخت سے گر جاتے ہیں ، تو آپ کو تکلیف ہو گی۔” اور اسی طرح ، ان کے پاس دوائیں لینے کا امکان کم ہے۔ امریکہ میں ، ہم اس طرح کے درد سے دوچار ہیں ، کہ ہم صرف اپنے بچوں کو ٹائلنول دے رہے ہیں جیسے اس کا انداز ختم ہو رہا ہے ، بخار کے خوف کا ذکر نہیں کرنا۔

اور ایک اور جو معروف نہیں ہے وہ دراصل ریفلوکس دوائیوں اور ایکزیما کے مابین باہمی ربط ہے ، ذہن سے اڑانے کی وجہ سے ، پھر ، غصے والے بچے ، کالے بچے ، اکثر اوقات ہم اینٹی ریفلوکس کی دوائیوں تک پہنچ جاتے ہیں ، جس سے دراصل بی انفینٹس کو تکلیف ہوتی ہے اگر ہم میں اس آدمی کے پاس واپس جاؤں گا۔ لیکن اگر ہم غذائی طرز زندگی میں ترمیم کے بجائے اینٹی ریفلوکس دوائیوں کا استعمال کر رہے ہیں تو ، ہم بچے کے گٹ پر بری طرح اثر ڈال رہے ہیں ، جس کی وجہ سے وہ ایکزیمے کی نشوونما کے ل high زیادہ خطرہ میں ڈال دیتے ہیں۔ اور وہاں کے لوگوں کے ل the ، چیزوں میں سے ایک جس سے میں آپ کو محتاط رہنا چاہتا ہوں جب ہم چیزوں پر تحقیق کرتے ہیں ، لہذا اگر آپ “ایکزیما کی اولین وجوہات” پر جاتے ہیں اور ایسا ہی ہوتا ہے تو ، آپ جانتے ہو ، خشک ہوا ، ٹھنڈی ہوا ، حالات چیزیں ، شاید ڈیری آئیں اس میں ، آپ کو ٹیلنول اور زینٹیک نظر نہیں آرہے ہیں۔ لیکن جب آپ تلاش کرتے ہیں تو ، “کیا ٹائلنول اور ایکزیما کے مابین کوئی ارتباط ہے؟” اور آپ ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، گوگل کا صفحہ کھل جاتا ہے ، اکثر اوقات ہماری تحقیق فورسز کے ذریعہ متعصبانہ ہوتی ہے جسے ہم نہیں جانتے اور نہیں سمجھتے کہ میں انہیں کیوں نہیں سمجھتا ہوں۔ اور اسی طرح ، جب ہم چیزوں پر تحقیق کر رہے ہیں تو ، یہ بہت دلچسپ ہے کہ آپ اس کو کس طرح دیکھتے ہیں اس پر منحصر ہے کہ مختلف چیزیں کیسے سامنے آتی ہیں۔

کیٹی: ریفلوکس کے خطرے کے بارے میں بھی جاننا بہت دلچسپ اور اہم ہے۔ کیا ایسی دوسری چیزیں بھی ہیں جن کے بارے میں ہمیں جاننے کی ضرورت ہے ، جیسے بچے جب کھانے سے تعارف کرواتے ہیں؟ میں جانتا ہوں ، مثال کے طور پر ، میں نے ایک ایسی کمپنی کے ساتھ کام کیا ہے جس نے ابتدائی الرجین تعارف سے متعلق تحقیق کو دیکھا اور محسوس کیا کہ جیسے کچھ کھانوں سے مکمل طور پر اجتناب کرنا اتنا ہی مشکل کام ہوسکتا ہے جتنا ان کو جلد شروع کرنا ہے۔ اور اس ل I میں جانتا ہوں کہ وہ اصلی الرجیوں سے بچنے میں مدد کے ل. ، انتہائی کنٹرول شدہ ، محتاط انداز میں ، جیسے کہ بہت کم خوراک کی تعارف کی وکالت کرتے ہیں۔ لیکن پھر میں اس سے آگے جانتا ہوں ، جیسے ، کچھ ایسی چیزیں ہیں جو آنتوں کے حامی ہیں جب بچے کھانے کی عمر تک پہنچنے لگتے ہیں؟

ڈاکٹر انا ماریہ: ٹھیک ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، اس صنف میں ہونے والی متعدد مطالعات نے حقیقت میں میرے طبی طریقوں کو تبدیل کردیا جب میں عام پیڈیاٹریشن کی طرح پریکٹس کر رہا تھا کیونکہ انہوں نے اسرائیل سے باہر آنے والے مطالعات کو ظاہر کیا جب وہ چھوٹی سی خوراک سے کنٹرول کھانے والی اشیاء ، اعلی الرجین فوڈز کھا رہے تھے۔ بچوں کو ، انھوں نے ان بچوں سے کم الرجی پائی جو ہم نے کرتے ہیں ، آئیے اسے امریکی طریقہ کہیں جہاں ہم پسند کرتے ہیں ، “اوہ ، مونگ پھلی کے بڑے ہونے تک ان کو مت بنوائیں۔ انڈے 1 تک نہ کریں۔ 1 تک اسٹرابیری نہ کریں۔ ” اور اس طرح ، تمام مطالعات کی بنیاد پر بہت ساری طبی دیکھ بھال تبدیل ہوگئی ہے اور اس کی تائید کرنے کے لئے مزید مطالعات سامنے آچکے ہیں۔

شروع میں ، جن چیزوں کی میں… آپ جانتے ہو ، دودھ کا دودھ ، جیسا کہ ہم نے ابھی بات کی ہے وہ سب سے بہتر ہے۔ اور یہاں تک کہ اگر… آپ جانتے ہو ، ہر ایک کا جسم ماں کا دودھ تیار کرنے کے قابل نہیں ہوتا ہے۔ اور ہم یہ جانتے ہیں۔ اور یہ بدقسمتی ہے۔ یہ مشکل ہے. اگر آپ ان قابل ہوسکتے ہیں تو ان سبھی مختلف فوائد کی وجہ سے جو ہم ایک اونس بھی تیار کرسکتے ہیں۔ جب ہم مختلف فارمولوں کو دیکھتے ہیں تو ، فارمولے پر دھیان دیں ، اپنے ڈاکٹر سے بات کریں ، اس بات کو یقینی بنائیں کہ آپ کو فارمولا مل رہے ہیں کہ پہلا اجزا کارن سیرپ نہیں ہے۔ اور پھر جب ہم ٹھوس کھانے کا تعارف شروع کرتے ہیں تو ، میں جڑ کی سبزیوں کے بارے میں ہوں ، اور میں چاول کے دانے کے بارے میں نہیں ہوں ، اور مجھے دلیا پسند نہیں ہے۔ اور شکر ہے ، یہاں تک کہ میرے روایتی مشق میں بھی ، میں نے کبھی چاول کے دانے کی تاکید نہیں کی کیونکہ اچھی طرح سے ، اس میں آرسنک ہے۔ اور پھر انسانوں نے لوہا شامل کیا اور ایسا محسوس کیا کہ ، اوہ ، بچوں کو لوہے کی وجہ سے اناج کی ضرورت ہے لیکن ہم ان کو پہلے سے کھانے کی تعارف کے طور پر پروسس شدہ کھانوں میں دے رہے ہیں۔ اور میرے نزدیک یہ مضحکہ خیز ہے۔

اور میں جڑ سبزیاں لے کر جاتا ہوں۔ ہمیشہ سبزیوں سے شروع کریں۔ اور میں پسند نہیں کرتا ، “اوہ ضرور اس سبزی کے ساتھ کریں۔” مجھے پسند ہے ، “سبزیاں اور پھر متبادل پھل ، سبزیاں ، پھل” اور پھر اس میں آپ کے اعلی الرجین کھانے کو شامل کریں۔ لیکن میں ساری کھانوں ، اصل کھانوں کے بارے میں ہوں۔ اور ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، بہت سارے لوگ مغلوب ہوجاتے ہیں۔ جب آپ کے بہت سارے بچے ہوں گے تو آپ کی طرح ہی ہوگا ، “اوہ ، میرے گوش ، میں خود کھانا نہیں بنا رہا ہوں۔” میں پسند کرتا ہوں ، “اسے سخت ہونا ضروری نہیں ہے۔ آپ صرف ایک ایوکاڈو کو صاف کرسکتے ہیں۔ آپ کیلے کو صاف کرسکتے ہیں۔ اگر آپ لوگ رات کے کھانے کے لئے میٹھے آلو بنا رہے ہیں تو اسے اپنے کانٹے سے صاف کرلیں اور اسے فریج میں ڈالیں اور وہی بچے کا کھانا ہے۔ اسے پیچیدہ کرنے کی ضرورت نہیں ہے۔ میں یہ نہیں کہہ رہا ہوں کہ وہاں کوئی بڑی کمپنیاں نہیں ہیں جو آپ کو اپنی زندگی آسان بنانے میں مدد دے سکتی ہیں۔ میں صرف ان کھانوں کی مثالیں دے رہا ہوں جو آپ گھر پر بناسکتے ہیں۔

لیکن میں ساری کھانوں کے بارے میں ہوں۔ میں واقعی میں دانتوں سے چلنے والے پٹاخوں اور دانتوں سے چلنے والے بسکٹ کا بڑا مداح نہیں ہوں۔ نچوڑ پیک بھی ایک مسئلہ بن سکتا ہے کیونکہ ان میں سے بہت سٹرک ایسڈ ، کبھی کبھی قدرتی ذائقوں ، کبھی کبھی صرف عجیب و غریب اجزاء سے بھر جاتا ہے۔ مجھے نہیں معلوم کہ وہ کیا ہیں۔ تو میں آپ کو اس کے ساتھ خبردار کرتا ہوں۔ ہم بچوں کو ان کی غذا میں حقیقی اجزاء رکھنا چاہتے ہیں اور اس سے ان کی ہمت اچھی اور صحت مند رہے گی تاکہ ہم ایکزیما کی نشوونما کو روک سکے۔

کیٹی: اور آپ نے ایک متنازعہ موضوع کا بھی تذکرہ کیا ، اور مجھے بہت خوشی ہے کہ آپ نے اس کو سامنے لایا ، اور یہ فیاض تھا ، اور اگر ان کو کم کیا جائے ، اور اگر ایسا ہے تو ان کو کیسے کم کیا جائے۔ میں نے اس کے بارے میں پہلے بھی تحریر کیا ہے اور حیرت کی بات ہے ، اس خاص موضوع کے بارے میں دونوں طرف سے کچھ انتہائی سخت رد. عمل پایا ہے۔ اور آپ اس ضمن میں بات کرنے سے کہیں زیادہ اہل ہیں۔ میرے پاس صرف والدین کا تجربہ ہے۔ لیکن میری تحقیق سے ، بہت کچھ ہے جو بخار کے بارے میں کیا کرنا ہے اور حقیقت یہ ہے کہ جسم کا مدافعتی نظام ایک وجہ سے یہ کام کرتا ہے۔ لہذا ، یہ ہوسکتا ہے کہ دفاع کی کم از کم پہلی لائن صرف ضروری طور پر بخار کو کم کرنے میں کود نہ ہو ، لیکن جیسا کہ میں نے کہا ، آپ مجھ سے زیادہ اس بارے میں بات کرنے کے اہل ہیں۔ کیا آپ ہمیں بخار کے بارے میں اپنے نقطہ نظر اور والدین کو جاننے کی ضرورت کے مطابق چل سکتے ہیں؟

ڈاکٹر انا ماریہ: ہاں ، اور آپ جانتے ہی ہیں ، مجھے بھی اس کے لئے گرمی ملتی ہے۔ تو آپ تنہا نہیں ہیں لیکن جب ہم بخار پر نظر ڈالتے ہیں تو ، یہی جسم کا ردعمل ہے۔ میں جس طرح سے عام طور پر اسے دیکھتا ہوں ، میں پسند کرتا ہوں ، “تم جانتے ہو کیا؟ آئیے ایک سیکنڈ کے لئے فلو وائرس کا استعمال کریں۔ فلو وائرس خود سے نہیں رہ سکتا۔ یہ تھوڑی مدت کے لئے کسی سطح پر زندہ رہ سکتا ہے ، لیکن پھر اسے خود کو نقل کرنے کے لئے انسانی جسم کی ضرورت ہوتی ہے۔ تو سادگی کے مقاصد کے لئے ، میں یہ پسند کرتا ہوں ، “ٹھیک ہے ، فلو وائرس اور اس کے 50 دوست آپ کے جسم میں آتے ہیں اور وہ آپ کے جسم کو فوٹو کاپی کرنے والی مشین کے طور پر استعمال کرتے ہیں۔” انسانی جسم کی طرح ، “نہیں ، ہمیں اس سے کوئی لینا دینا نہیں ہے۔” لہذا یہ دو وجوہات کی بنا پر اندرونی ترموسٹیٹ کو بڑھاتا ہے۔

پہلے نمبر پر ، یہ فوٹو کاپی کرنے والی مشین کو روکنے والا ہے۔ اور دوسرا نمبر ، یہ دراصل زیادہ اینٹی باڈیز بنانے ، ان کو تیزی سے مڑنے اور ان کو مضبوط بنانے کے لئے قوت مدافعت کے نظام کو تیز کرتا ہے۔ لہذا ہمیں مزید اینٹی باڈیز تیز بنانے کے لئے بخار کی ضرورت ہے۔ اور اگر آپ بچے کو بخار ہونے دیں اور جسم کو کام کرنے دیں تو جسم اس کی نقل روکتا ہے۔ لہذا اب آپ کے جسم کو 50 وائرل ذرات سے لڑنا ہے۔ اور میں یہ انتہائی آسان بنا رہا ہوں۔ اب ، اگر ہم بچے کو ٹیلنول اور موٹرن دے رہے ہیں کیونکہ ہم جانتے ہیں ، دماغی نقصان ، دوروں اور ایسی چیزوں سے ، جس کے بارے میں ہم ایک سیکنڈ میں بات کرنے والے ہیں ، تو ہم فوٹو کاپی مشین کو موڑنے دیں گے۔ واپس ، اب وائرس خود کو اربوں میں نقل کرنے کے قابل ہے۔ ہمارا مدافعتی نظام سست اور خراب ہے کیونکہ کام کرنے کے ل it اسے اعلی درجہ حرارت کی ضرورت ہے۔

لہذا ، اب ، وائرس کے اربوں ذرات ہیں جن پر ہمارے جسم نے قابو پالیا ہے ، جس کی وجہ سے ہم دو ، تین ہفتوں کی طرح بیمار رہتے ہیں ، اور اس کی نگاہ کا کوئی خاتمہ نہیں ہوتا ہے۔ والدین دماغ کو ہونے والے نقصان سے ڈرتے ہیں۔ اعصابی طور پر عام چارٹ میں ، انسانی جسم آپ کے درجہ حرارت کو 105.5 سے اوپر نہیں جانے دے گا۔ 105.5 پر ، آپ کو دماغی نقصان نہیں ہوتا ہے۔ نیز ، لڑکے کے دورے والدین کی ایک بہت بڑی تشویش ہیں۔ کسی بخار کے دورے کو روکنے کے لئے ٹیلنول یا موٹرن کی کوئی مقدار نہیں ہے۔ جب لڑکا زبردست کھیل رہا ہے ، ان پر قبضہ ہوتا ہے ، تو آپ ان کو اٹھا لیتے ہیں کیونکہ ان کو دورے پڑا ہے ، اور اچانک آپ نے دیکھا کہ وہ جل رہا ہے۔ یہ اس لئے کہ یہ شرح عروج ہے۔

اور بہت سارے مطالعات دیکھنے کے لئے کیے گئے ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، ہم متبادل کیسے بن سکتے ہیں؟ اگر آپ متبادل ٹائلنول رکھتے ہو تو کیا ہوگا؟ موٹررین کے بارے میں کیا خیال ہے؟ کیا اگر…؟ اور اس میں سے کسی نے بھی حقیقت میں خواتین کے دوروں کی روک تھام نہیں کیا ہے۔ اگر آپ کا بچہ زبردست دوروں کا تجربہ کرتا ہے تو ، براہ کرم اپنے ڈاکٹر سے اس معاملے میں دوائیوں کے بارے میں بات کریں۔ اور اگر آپ کے بچے میں اعصابی اسامانیتا ہے تو آپ کا معاملہ مختلف ہے ، براہ کرم اپنے ڈاکٹر سے بات کریں۔ دوسرے تمام بچوں میں ، جسم کو بخار کی ضرورت ہے اور اسے اپنا کام کرنے کی ضرورت ہے۔ دوسری چیز جو ہوتی ہے وہ ہے بچوں کی طرح ، آپ جانتے ہو ، سوفی پر چاروں طرف پڑے ہوئے ہیں ، وہ کچھ نہیں کررہے ہیں ، حقیقت میں جسم یہ کہہ رہا ہے کہ ، “مجھے اس وائرس سے لڑنے کے لئے اپنی توانائی کی ضرورت ہے۔ پلیز نہ کھیلو۔ “

بچے بیمار ہونے پر کھانا نہیں کھاتے ہیں۔ اس کی وجہ یہ ہے کہ جسم یہ کہتا ہے کہ “براہ کرم مت کھاؤ کیونکہ مجھے اس وائرس سے لڑنے کے لئے اپنی ساری توانائی کی ضرورت ہے ،” کچھ دوسری چیزوں کے سب سے اوپر۔ لیکن میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ پیراونیا ہے ، جیسے ، “اوہ ، میرا گوش ، میرے بچے کو دیکھو ، بخار ہے ، کچھ نہیں کرنے کے ارد گرد پڑا ہے ، مجھے اسے دوائی دینی چاہئے ،” کیونکہ والدین کی حیثیت سے ہم ہمیشہ ایسا محسوس کرتے ہیں کہ ہمیں کچھ کرنا ہے۔ اور جب بچے پلنگ سے باہر نکل جاتے ہیں ، اور وہ کھیل رہے ہوتے ہیں ، اور وہ اچھ .ا ہوتے ہیں تو ، ہم خوش ہوں گے۔ تاہم ، چھ گھنٹے بعد ، وہ بخار کے ساتھ ایک بار پھر نیچے چلے گئے اور اب ہم گھبراتے ہیں کیونکہ ہمیں لگتا ہے کہ کچھ بہت ہی غلط ہے۔ اور یہ صرف مدافعتی نظام ہے جس کی دوائیوں پر ہم قابو پانے کی کوشش کر رہے ہیں کیونکہ ہم ڈرتے ہیں۔

کیٹی: یہ اس کی اتنی ہی مختصر وضاحت تھی ، اور مجھے امید ہے کہ اس سے والدین کو ذہنی سکون ملتا ہے کیونکہ یقینی طور پر ، اگر آپ کا بچہ کسی بھی طرح سے پریشانی کا شکار ہے تو والدین کی حیثیت سے یہ خوفناک ہے ، لیکن خاص طور پر لڑکا کے دورے بھی بہت خوفناک ہوسکتے ہیں۔ ایسی اچھی یاد دہانی کہ مدافعتی نظام جانتا ہے کہ یہ کیا کر رہا ہے اور بخار ایک مقصد کی خدمت کرتا ہے۔ اگرچہ ، ایکزیما کے عنوان پر واپس جائیں۔ لہذا ہم نے غذا اور خاص طور پر جیسے ، ابتدائی تعارف اور اس کے بارے میں کیا جاننا ہے ، کے بارے میں ایک اچھا پرائمر حاصل کرلیا ہے۔ What are some of the other factors as kids get older, or if a child has maybe already very severe eczema, what are some other things that can help? Because you already mentioned that people think of eczema as a topical problem. And I know firsthand, nothing topical worked for my son. It wasn’t until we addressed the internal that he got better. And at that point, he didn’t need the topical stuff. But what are some of the other things that parents need to know to start that process?

Dr. Ana-Maria: Other things that in some kids that are so severely affected and the parents have done everything, histamines are a big problem. And what are histamines? Histamines are, like, little tiny, I call them like confetti and they hang out in mast cells. And so basically mast cells look like balloons with confetti and they patrol our body. And they patrol our body in order to defend us. There actually is a great purpose. So, you have an invading virus, the mast cells explode, the confetti, which is the histamines, explode, and they call in other immune cells in order to fight this battle. Same thing, if you come in close contact with pollen, and mold, and other things.

And some kids, they have so many mast cells and mast cells are so incredibly sensitive that everything triggers them. So there’s children that they eat a grape, or they eat pineapple, or they eat a cracker, or they drink water, and they have eczema. They’re sensitive to everything, you know, in our course, where, like, they’re allergic to life because the parents are continuously trying to figure out which thing, which thing? It’s not one thing. It’s that their system is over-responsive. It’s just so incredibly sensitive that anything they come in contact with may just explode.

So then, we look into factors of, okay, well, is your child consuming a high histamine diet? What is your family history? Could they be lacking in specific digestive enzymes that could be helping in curtailing this issue? Do we have any other gut imbalances because where do the histamine reaction really all begin? In the gut. And then also, do we have anything else in the environment like pets? Mold is a huge…I live in Charlotte, North Carolina, and we are a moldy, moldy place. And so, you know, is mold is a factor in your house? Because if we can decrease inflammation on the inside, but what about our environment? You know, what are you cleaning with? What kind of things are you doing your laundry…not specifically because it’s irritating eczema but the more toxins that we’re exposed to from our food, lotions, potions, chemicals in our environment, that can trigger eczema.

And the other thing that is so under-recognized during our pandemic is stress. The stress is out of control. Mental health is…We are at the brink of massive issues. And a lot of times, well, kids can be stressed but I’ll tell you something, when the mom is stressed, it goes right to the babies. And the babies…We have documented…We have scientific evidence to show that there’s an electromagnetic field, that may sound hokey to some people, but we are able to communicate with our children, and our spouses, and our friends from 3 feet away without having to say a word.

So, you know, imagine the last time that your partner came into the house, you heard the door open, and just the way the door opened and closed, you know it’s gonna be…something bad happened and they’re tense. And they walk into the room, and then you’re tense, and then the kids become tense, without him or her ever saying a word. And so, we have to really hone in on our stress from the social isolation, from the Zoom school, from Zoom work, from all this other stuff because our stress affects our cortisol levels. And our cortisol levels affect our histamines and our other inflammatory markers in our body, which can make us have eczema issues even worse.

Katie: I know you talk about this in-depth in your course but how can parents start addressing the histamine issues? Because certainly for kids that have that, especially, like you said, the ones who are allergic to life, it seems like a daunting process.

Dr. Ana-Maria: You know, I gotta say, a lot of parents feel like they have to do this all on their own because they’ve lost faith in the physicians they’re seeing or the practitioners that they’re seeing and they’re like, “I must do it. I must heal.” And I’m all about, you know, trying to educate, and empower, and inspire families to do it all on their own. When it gets this difficult, it’s really important to pair up with somebody that specializes in this because it is hard. And it’s even better to have a community of people that are speaking your same language or going through the same thing. Doing everything alone, and now it’s highlighted by our social isolation in the great big world, is exhausting. You know, and I also have a question, I’m like, “When did motherhood require an MD degree?” You know, like, and I have a political science degree and a nutrition degree. It’s exhausting.

And so the first thing is I’m like, you know, find a community that speaks your language so you can be in a together. Find a provider that can direct you because the issue is children can become malnourished if we’re not doing this properly. You can totally pull up a blog on histamine intolerance. There’s some great blogs out there. I’ll tell you the first few things that are high in histamines are gonna be your processed foods, like we talked about, gluten and dairy, your kombuchas and pickles, leftovers, cold cuts, and then, of course, you go to bananas, and avocados, and strawberries, and then you wanna cry in your pillow because you’re giving your children fabulous food but yet they may be affecting your child. So, just proceed with caution when it comes to histamine diets in children, specifically, because we are not all nutritionists. You know, people go to school for this. And it is a delicate balance so we don’t have the children deprived in one nutrient because we’re trying to avoid histamines.

Katie: Gotcha. Okay. That makes complete sense.

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So we talked about things and triggers to avoid. And you mentioned a few foods, especially to add in. Are there any supplements or nutrient deficiencies that tend to line up with eczema that parents need to be aware of?

Dr. Ana-Maria: Yeah. Vitamin D. And I know the vitamin D has been hot in the press these days. But now the data on vitamin D supplementation and vitamin D deficiency associated with eczema is mixed. You’ll have studies that will show you what you wanna see and studies that show you like you wanna see. But whenever I look at medical literature and that data is mixed, I’m always looking to see but did it help some people? Because supplementing vitamin D, and you need to know what kind of vitamin D to make sure that is a good quality vitamin D, doesn’t have other chemicals or additives in it, it is very beneficial in a lot of kids with eczema. Is it in everybody? No. Nothing is in everyone. There’s not one thing that I can say and be like, “That is the one thing that’s gonna cure.” No, it’s a mixture of things, that’s why we’re talking about all of them. So, vitamin D, I find very beneficial. And I do ask that if possible to get your children’s vitamin D levels checked. It just helps you be more mathematical about how much supplementation we need to do for vitamin D if possible.

Then we have zinc, mixed data on this as well. But I am very encouraged by some of the studies coming out of 2014 from topical zinc to oral supplementation of zinc sulfate specifically. And then there’s a company out there that actually has zinc-infused clothing. And there’s studies to show that actually having zozon like a jammies or dry wraps, decreases kids’ risk of having eczema flares. Omega-3, essential fatty acids, of course, you guessed it, there’s mixed reviews on that one as well. But they are a portion of children that do beautifully well by adding Omega-3s, which are essentially fatty acids. Again, you add them as a supplement on the inside. And you can actually use them as a topical emolient because they’re so beneficial to so many things, including brain health.

Probiotics, and knowing specifically which probiotics because sometimes if your child is dealing with histamine overload, some probiotics can make those symptoms worse. That’s why it’s great to speak with somebody so you can know which probiotics are right for your child. I do use digestive enzymes, a very specific kind. There’s one small study that showed a benefit for using digestive enzymes in children with eczema. And so, I do use those, and then I’ll use some botanical herbals in children to help cleanse their gut and rebalance it. Because oftentimes, you know, as you know, for every 1 human cell, we are 10 bacteria cells. So what is about 10% and actually, and that’s from the National Institute of Health. But there’s a very fine balance in bacteria. So if our gut is populated with more bad guys, we’re gonna have more eczema and chronic issues versus if we have more good guys. So, I will use botanical herbals in order to try to rebalance the gut so we can get back in a symbiotic relationship with our friends.

Katie: Got it. And like I said, I know you go in-depth because there’s so many different factors that come into play here. So I assume every case is somewhat different, but you help parents really dial down and have a partner to work with in figuring that out. I agree with you, motherhood should not have to have a medical degree, although I feel like I have so many listeners who for the sake of their children have become extremely well-educated in different areas. Just I think…Like, there’s a joke that no one does better research than a mom when it comes to her kids, even the FBI. But I think the best-case scenarios happen when you have a well-educated parent working with a well-educated practitioner. And that gives the kids the best hope of recovery in this point.

And we’ve touched on this a little bit but I wanna go a little bit more specific also about the conventional medical approach to eczema because I also have heard from so many parents who have gone to doctors, and tried everything, and really been diligent, and still aren’t seeing results. And I feel like maybe there’s some holes when it comes to modern medicine and not really addressing all these root causes that you’ve talked about.

Dr. Ana-Maria: It totally is. There’s so much out there. And I just wanna go back to the one thing that you said about us having our MD degree. Actually, my children are the exact reason why I’m a functional medicine doctor is because of their chronic disease, I did all my research, and I got educated, and certified in functional medicine because they were suffering with chronic disease, and I didn’t get the answers that I was hoping from the traditional model. And here we are. So, yeah, so I have to say my children are actually my greatest medical accomplishment and the reason why I do holistic medicine now.

But going back to the holes…And a lot of times when I talk to the parents and they’re like, “We’ve tried everything,” well, everything that you know to try. And a lot of times, we’ll say, “Well, I went to a specialist…” And I’m not knocking on any schools. There are amazing schools out there. But the more prestigious the school, the more we’re like, “Oh, but I went to see this doctor and they’re from…” let’s say Hopkins, let’s say Harvard, let’s say from…And I’m not bashing any schools, I’m just giving examples. And they just say topical stuff and they do the traditional model things. And they’re like, “Well, if there were other options, my doctor would know because he went to a fabulous medical school.” And I went to a fabulous medical school too. I did not know until I did more research and I crossed paths with Dr. Mark Hyman. And that’s when I was like, “It is true. You know, people should eat more vegetables.”

So whenever you’re feeling like you have gotten all the answers, the question is, is that all that you know because that’s all the people that you hang out with? I didn’t know anything about functional medicine and I didn’t know anything about treating my children’s eczema, asthma, constipation, ADHD until I took a different approach. And it was accidental how I stumbled into the whole thing. Because there’s so many factors between your lifestyle factors and nutrition, the environment that you live in, like we talk about, the stress that is around. And sometimes there is an immune issue that may be so much deeper that we need to look further than what we’re normally trained to look into.

Katie: I agree. And I’m gonna have a link in the show notes. I know you guys have a specialized link with a specialized discount for anybody listening who has anyone struggling with eczema. But talk a little bit about your course because I think it’s also so timely right now when in-person visits have gotten more difficult, even with primary care doctors just because of all of the current climate and everything going on. And so, this is a great option that works from home and it really gives parents the power and the tools to start finding results for their kids right away. But talk a little bit more specifically about your course.

Dr. Ana-Maria: The way I put the course together is basically after treating, you know, hundreds of kids with eczema, and doing all this lab work, and doing food sensitivity tests and poop tests, and doing supplements, and whatever, I was like, “There’s a common thread to all these.” I’m like, “You know, we can reach a broader audience and we can help more mamas help their children by doing an online course.” And I wanted to make it so unique that…and there’s really no other course like there. And what it is, is actually you have modules. So you can do your modules and you go from understanding specifically, because the first question that everyone has, why does my child have eczema?

So that’s actually the first thing that you go through, an exercise in the course where I help you identify exactly where the root causes in your child’s eczema. And then we go down the list of, like, understanding of how food is related to your skin cells. And then we go into the food eliminations. But all of this is actually side by side with my health coach and myself, and we walk the walk with you, as well as the other mamas. So, when you take…So you have the option of just doing the modules and you can do it all yourself. But I so strongly believe in a community and in helping one another and learning from one another. I don’t know everything. I know that there’s mamas, just like you said, that are so researching their niche that they teach me, you know, all the time as well.

And so, you go through your modules that are about 10 minutes each, you have PDFs, you have supplements, you have dosing, you have the side effects. Like, everything is explained to you. We give you recipes, and snacks, and all the different stuff. But really, I think what is the jewel of them all is that every Monday at 2:00 on Facebook, my health coach gets on and she talks to my mamas about all the different struggles from parenting, to food, to picky eaters, to those who have adverse reactions to different things. And on Thursdays at 2:00 Eastern Time, I get on my Facebook Live with all my mamas where I address medical questions.

So, not only are you doing modules, but you actually can get personalized care. So, when the children are not doing exactly how you’d expect based on the course, like my mamas come on there, and we fine-tune stuff, and somebody’s like, “Well, you know, I read about topical B12. What can you tell me about that?” I’m like, “Okay. Great. Let me look into that.” You know, we’ve talked about zeolite. We talk about mold. We talk about all these other things that are not even in the course because my mamas want information. They want, you know, more stuff. They’re sponges, and then we have a direction. And as I said, they teach me some stuff. And I’m like, “I had no idea about the goat milk flakes,” that we learned last Thursday.

You know, all stuff that then we can share with other mamas in the community is what a supporting one another. So when somebody’s doing poorly, all the other mamas are jumping in, and we’re having a discussion, and brainstorming. And when I brainstorm with that one mom, it usually shows beneficial for the other moms. They’re like, “Oh my gosh, that’s exactly what I was gonna ask,” or, “I didn’t even think about that.” So, it is a very collegiate way of doing an online course. And basically, you get to see a health coach and a physician twice weekly.

Katie: That’s awesome. Well, like I said, that link will be in the show notes for you guys listening, especially if you’re exercising or driving. All of that at, you’ll find all the links and the discount code there. And another question that’s somewhat unrelated that I love to ask at the end of interviews is if there is a book or a number of books that have had a profound influence on your life or been really inspirational to you, and if so, what they are and why.

Dr. Ana-Maria: The latest book that I have taken to heart is actually “Fiber Fueled” by Dr. Will B. Like, I mess up his last name every single time. He has been super inspirational. He is a gastroenterologist, traditionally trained, and he talks about plant-based diet. I am not fully plant-based. I do a lot of plants, but I’m not plant-based. And one of the takeaway from his book has been plant points. And so right now on Instagram, we have a big challenge going on with plant points. And the children are obsessed because, you know, who’s gonna give up a good competition between siblings? So I’m having children that have not been eating a lot of plants, generally speaking, doing amazing because they wanna outcompete their siblings. So his book has been really fantastic.

And the other books, like I said earlier, Dr. Mark Hyman’s books, which actually I accidentally stumbled upon when I was trying to get my children feeling better. And what he refers to in his books is how we use our food to be our medicine. And I can’t really pick one specific one. If I were, perhaps the one that actually speaks to…because, like, what should you eat? Because a lot of people are like, “Okay, great. So now I heard about the different oils, what olive oil should I have?” “Okay. Great. I should do free-range, red meat because of the labels, how do I read a label?” And I found his book to be so helpful in helping navigate our process world.

Katie: Awesome suggestions. I will put links to all of those in the show notes as well so you guys can find, and read, and learn. But Dr. Ana-Maria, thank you so much. I think this is such an important topic. I know you have so many more resources available on your website. I’ll make sure those are linked as well. But I hope that this has helped a lot of parents and will help a lot of kids. And I’m just really appreciative of you doing this work to help so many.

Dr. Ana-Maria: I’m so excited to be here. And you do such amazing work for so many families. And I am honored to be part of your tribe and talking to all the moms because there’s so much more to doing medicine and to everything that we do for our children. And I hope as a community that we just come out just healthier on top.

Katie: Absolutely. I’ve always said moms are a force of nature. And I think when you have amazing moms in connection with amazing practitioners like you, then amazing things happen, and very grateful to you for being here today, and very grateful, of course, to all of you for listening, for sharing your most valuable resources, your time and your energy with both of us. We’re so glad that you were here, and I hope that you will join me again on the next episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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