Hormones, the Thermo Diet & Micronutrients With Christopher Walker

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Katie: Hello, and welcome to the “Fitness Mama Podcast.” I’m from KatieWellensmama.com and Wellensy.com. At the same time it is healthy, my new line of hair care, toothpaste and hand cleaner. I think you will really enjoy this event. I’m here with Christopher Walker, CEO and founder of UMZU, a brand of natural health products. He is also the author and creator of Thermo Diet, and the first person to graduate from Duke’s Neuroscience Science Program in just three years. We talk about his incredible story in this episode, which involves performing surgery on a 16-year-old patient, diagnosing a brain tumor at the age of 16, his own 19-year-old. How he recovered, and what he learned along the way. It now helps millions of people recover naturally. He also had testosterone on one occasion with a brain tumor that had dropped to 11, and he took it above 1,100. I’ve got a growing number of questions from you guys about husbands and important people with low testosterone, and we’re paying attention to that. It makes you a really attractive and compelling case for the many diets and fitness information you find on the internet or because the experts are painful. I think a lot of you already know some of these things because you guys are pretty surprised but I think it really makes a strong case. I think it’s an interesting event, and I’m really interested to know what you think about it. Without further ado, let’s join Chris Walker. Chris, welcome. Thanks for coming here

Chris: Thanks, Katie. Happy here

Katie: I’m glad to chat with you. I know you in social circles and in the business world for a while, but I don’t think I want to be interested in your story. And while researching it, I read a fact, I want you to describe it, which means you had surgery at the age of 16. Can you walk us through it?

Chris: Yes, I did. Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me, Looks like BT aint for me either. And it was in Mexico. And, you know, I don’t think I understood it at the time, like how cold it was at the time, but I thought it was really cool, but I didn’t realize that I guess 16-year-olds are normal. Don’t do that That my uncle was a doctor. And when I was 16, I always wanted to be a surgeon. So, he basically took me on a mission trip to Mexico with a group of doctors. So they’re all from the Northeast, like. And so, you know, he worked in Lebanon, New Hampshire. So, there were people with him at Dartmouth College, and then a couple of Yale surgeons, and I think Georgetown is a boy. And then we all basically went down there, and I could speak Spanish, so I was a translator. We were primarily for OR, you know, maybe 16 to 18 hours a day. And, you know, he was tired after two weeks. So a surgeon at Yale, he was basically like, “Hey, Chris, you want to do this?” So, I threw the bush, you know, the nurses, I have to throw the bush and be the disinfectant. And then it was to remove a bladder stone. So he basically just pulled out a sharpie, and this guy, you know, probably in the late 50’s, early 60’s guy, needed to have a bladder stone removed. So he was lying unconscious on the table, you know, anesthesia. And the surgeon applied a sharpener, drew a line and showed me how to do it. And I had surgery, removed the bladder. It was very wild. Very cool. Like, you know, just cutting with a skull, really, and then looking at different layers of tissue, and going into fat, going into muscle, and then opening up the central cavity there.

And he showed me where the bladder was. It was basically, like, “Put your hand there and find the stone.” And then I found the stone and it was wrapped around it, and then it just cut the bladder, you know, a clear line along its skull, and then I pulled it out. And I started sewing it back, but I allowed it to end because I went to a medical symposium in Georgetown a year ago because Georgetown offers it, or I don’t know if they now They do the same but they returned it. Then. For children who want to become surgeons, they have a weekly symposium where you go and, for example, surgeons teach children how to do it, you know, like you You know, there’s a bunch of different medical supplies on campus. And so I learned how to save a banana, but I didn’t think it was necessary for anyone to get rid of it. But I took out the stone and I went there and did the whole surgical part, but I let the boy finish the string.

Katie: Wow, that’s amazing. And I also read that you are the first person to graduate from Duke Neuroscience in three years. How did you become interested in neuroscience?

Chris: It was primarily for personal gain because, you know, I just went to Duke; in the first year, they just got pre-med, or pre-engineering, or whatever, already enrolled for law ۔ And so I was pre-made. And then after my freshman year, I had a lot of trouble. Like, I had all these problems, my senior year in high school and then my new year in college, I had a lot of health problems. And one of them was, you know, I really had a very serious health problem with ulcers, but it didn’t really work that much, but I had a problem after which I found out that Was followed by a brain tumor. Really, you know. I had to leave my sophomore year, and they discovered a brain tumor during the sophomore year. So, it really … When I went back to my junior year, that way, it stimulated the neuroscience obsession primarily because I wanted to know if without the use of drugs or surgery How to solve this problem because I had a friend in college at that time who, interestingly, had exactly the same tumor, and he removed it surgically. But then his personality was different. Since this is a very invasive surgery, you know, like they go straight into your nose and, like, through the base of your brain, essentially, the part that is in the pituitary gland. So this is the part that actually connects all the glands in the body. So it impressed me that his personality was different after the surgery, so I didn’t want to have the surgery. And then I came across some prescriptions, like diagnosing. Until they found it, they put me on different things. And then later, and I just didn’t like how I felt about these prescription drugs. So, I was like, “I don’t want to use any of them and I don’t want to have surgery.” So I went back to school with that kind of hellish attitude about naturally fixing it myself. And that’s where neuroscience came in.

Katie: Gota I think a lot of us in the world of health have a journey story that we try to correct ourselves and find out what was wrong, and This greatly increases the scope of research. And of course, brain tumors are probably at the very end of health problems that you can have. This sounds like a very serious diagnosis. I’m curious what your initial journey looked like, and what were the things you tried and it didn’t work out. Because my journey was with Hashmo and he was trying to find my own recovery. I am curious for you what those steps were.

Chris: Yeah, that’s a good question. So, at first, it was a bit overwhelming, which I’m sure you felt the same way. Like, what kind of stuff do you even start? So, I ended up very fast, just trying to snatch everything and, like, I re-evaluate everything I was doing on a regular basis to get to all sorts of different places. Instead, like rebuilding from square forest, you know, fades and trends. And you know what it’s like, like, wherever you look, there’s something new about health. And instead of looking at these things, I just started saying, “Okay, what am I doing?” So I took a few weeks and was more focused on the different things I was doing in different areas. And whether it was what I was eating, or the level of stress, how I was exercising. At the time, I was heavily involved in endurance training. And I was running triathlon races nationally, actually going to Citizens for triathlon and doubleathlon, the year I was diagnosed. So I was doing a ton of training, as you know, a lot of stressful cardio training. And I went to the Duke Trek team. So I just started, like, snatching everything up, and then searching and researching, like what is the real best way to exercise, for example? What is the best way to eat? I actually went into the water fasting at that time. And that was in 2009, I think it was 2010. So this was the way before fasting, you know, as it is now. And that was to a great extent. But I was looking at more in terms of, like, what is a key element of health? And I was trying to find things like, the basics and the things that weren’t trendy, you know, some wave or some superfood or whatever. It was just more, like, how does bodywork happen?

That was the basic question, like, how do my hormones work? Because, you know that having a tumor in the pituitary gland, the pituitary is the seat of your endocrine system. And it’s really like the master control panel of your endocrine system because it’s from your brain to your thyroid, you know, there are gonadal glands, depending on whether you’re a woman or a man and the liver. I mean, they’re all like that; their interpretation and their opinion is there, right? And the intestines, mainly through the spinal cord, communicate with bacteria and hormone secretions, you know, in the brain, in these feedback pops, and the brain communicates with these glands, and so on. So I started to know about these receptions in the body. And the fact was, in terms of thinking that I could actually solve it naturally, because, you know, in all the textbooks, if you look around the textbooks, there’s an arrow in them. Between the different glands are like circular arrows, depending on the reflection. And it’s a very simple way of understanding how the body works. Of course, you know that the mechanisms that trigger an attack can be very complex in the feedback loops. But, you know, especially from a scientific point of view, we know a fair amount of information about how they work, at least in terms of just thinking about it, like what are the big things in this impression loop? Can have an effect? But there was, like, the opinion, you know, that you can, you can know, you can manipulate. So, like this approach, I guess, in the journey of understanding health, these are all different variables that I can overcome. And basically, a lot of those things just came down, like you know the big thing was the lack of a microscope.

And if I had a lack of things, overcoming those shortcomings could have a great effect on facilitating positive feedback and balancing hormones. And then, you know, this kind of gets you nutrition, where it happens, what is the best way to eat to do that? And then moving on; you know, and I actually started building a pyramid about it. In my first book, I designed this pyramid, which shows men how to do it in the case of اور and I call it the masculine correction pyramid. But now with the thermo diet, you know, it’s redesigned for both men and women. But it really only focuses on the pyramids, which are the elements of food, nutrition, mobility, lifestyle. There are a lot of tons of things in lifestyle, people do it, you know, it’s basically positive feedback, and then training, and then in providing extra facilities, either productive or productive, which makes micronutrients I can get such opinions. Well, at least I didn’t go down without explaining myself first. And I was really obsessed with it, you know, you guessed it, and that’s been happening for the last 10 years, really, maybe even more. So that’s basically how I was thinking about travel. میں کوشش کر رہا تھا کہ شاداب غذا اور اس طرح کی چیزوں کے لحاظ سے کسی بھی جال میں نہ پڑ جاؤں۔ اور ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، میں کامل نہیں ہوں ، لیکن میں نے کئی سالوں میں دیکھا ہے ، جیسے ان چیزوں کو بھی جن کے بارے میں میں یقین کرتا ہوں کہ وہ سچ نہیں ہیں۔ جب میں ان عقائد کی دوبارہ جانچ پڑتال کرتا ہوں تو یہ اس وجہ سے ہوتا ہے کہ میں ان پر ایک بنیادی نظر نہیں لے رہا تھا ، جیسے۔ یہ اس طرح زیادہ مقبول تھا جیسے اس مقام پر زیادہ مقبول تھا۔ لیکن وہ آتے ہیں اور جاتے ہیں۔ تو امید ہے کہ ، یہ ایک مددگار جواب تھا۔

کیٹی: تھا۔ میں ان میں سے کچھ نکات پر گہرائی میں جانا چاہتا ہوں اور ان کو سمجھنا چاہتا ہوں کیوں کہ میں نے یقینی طور پر تھرمو ڈائیٹ کے بارے میں سنا ہے اور اس میں آپ کا کام دیکھا ہے۔ اور مجھے پیار ہے کہ آپ نے یہ ذکر کیا ہے کہ آپ نے مرد اور عورت کے مابین فرق کو ختم کیا ہے مجھے آپ کی کہانی پڑھنے سے یاد ہے ، اگر میں نمبر کو صحیح طریقے سے یاد کر رہا ہوں تو ، آپ کا ٹیسٹوسٹیرون ایک وقت پر 11 پر آگیا تھا۔ کیا یہ ٹھیک ہے؟

کرس: ہاں ، 11 نانوگرام فی ڈیللیٹر۔ اور ہاں ، یہ ہارمونز کے معاملے میں میرا ابتدائی تعاقب تھا۔ جیسے ، لڑکا ہونے کے ناطے ، میں اس کی طرح اس طرف فوکس کرتا تھا کیونکہ یہ میرے ذہن میں تھا ، جیسے ، ایک اعلی فائدہ اٹھانے والا علاقہ تھا۔ کیونکہ میں جانتا تھا کہ اگر میں یہ جان سکتا ہوں کہ اس کو قدرتی طور پر کیسے بڑھایا جاسکتا ہے اور اپنے جسم کو فطری طور پر اس میں سے زیادہ پیدا کرنا ہے ، تو اس سے بہت ساری چیزوں کا خیال رکھنا ہوگا کیونکہ بہت سے علامات سے متعلق ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، کم ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کی سطح میں لوگ اور یہ ایک اعلی فائدہ اٹھانے والی چیز ہے۔ چنانچہ میں نے اس پورے پیمائش کے ڈیڑھ سال کے اندر صرف قدرتی طور پر ، ہر ایک اعشاریہ 1200 نین گرام کے نیچے تک اضافہ کیا۔

کیٹی: کیا آپ کو کچھ ایسی سب سے بڑی چیزیں محسوس ہوئیں جو اس تبدیلی کا باعث بنی؟ کیونکہ میرے سامعین بڑی حد تک خواتین ہیں ، لیکن میں بہت ساری خواتین سے سنتا ہوں جو ، ان کے شوہر بہت کم ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کے ساتھ معاملہ کر رہے ہیں۔ اور میں نے پڑھا ہے ، مثال کے طور پر ، کچھ ایسے اعدادوشمار جو آجکل ، مردوں میں اوسطا اپنے نانا کی نسل سے بہت کم ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کی حیثیت رکھتے ہیں۔ تو ، میں جاننا چاہتا ہوں ، وہ کون سی چیزیں تھیں جو انجکشن میں حرکت کرتی تھیں؟ کیونکہ روایتی دانشمندی سے ایسا معلوم ہوتا ہے کہ یہ ہارمون تبدیل کرنے والی تھراپی یا کچھ دوسری قابل اعتراض چیزیں ہیں جن کی آپ کوشش کرسکتے ہیں۔ آپ کے لئے کیا کام ہوا؟

کرس: ہاں لہذا ، اگر آپ اس اہرام ڈھانچے کو دیکھیں تو ، خوردبین غذائیں ، تغذیہ ، طرز زندگی کے عناصر ، ورزش اور اضافی حوالہ جات کے لحاظ سے ، ہر ایک قسم کی کچھ چیزیں ایسی ہیں جو سب سے زیادہ فائدہ اٹھاتی ہیں۔ یہ بد قسمتی کی بات ہے کہ روایتی دانشمندی ابھی ہے کہ لوگ ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کو تبدیل کرنے کے علاج سے پہلے سے طے شدہ ہیں۔ اور یہاں تک کہ خواتین کے لئے بھی یکساں ،… اور یہ میں صرف اتنا ہی کہنا چاہتا ہوں کہ یہ فریم ورک خواتین کے لئے کام کرتا ہے۔ لیکن ، آپ جانتے ہو ، خواتین کے ہارمونز قدرے تھوڑے ہیں ، جیسے تناسب مختلف ہیں ، ٹھیک ہے؟ لیکن وہی چیزیں جو عورت کے ہارمون کو متوازن کرنے کے لئے کام کر رہی ہیں۔ لہذا ، مائکروونٹریٹینٹ کے معاملے میں ، یقینی طور پر کلیدی مائکروونٹریونٹس ہیں جو براہ راست پیمائش کی جاتی ہیں ، سائنسی لحاظ سے ، محض ایک بہت بڑی تحقیق کے ساتھ جو جسم میں ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کی پیداوار کے ساتھ وابستہ ہے۔ لہذا ، ان خامیوں کی نشاندہی کرنا شاید پہلا قدم ہے ، ایمانداری سے ، اور یہ کرنا بہت آسان ہے ، خاص طور پر آج کل۔ تب ہی ، ان کے پاس یہ سب کچھ نہیں تھا ، آپ جانتے ہو ، مائکروٹرنینٹ ٹیسٹنگ اسٹارٹپس۔ اور ، آپ جانتے ہو ، وہ اب تمام جگہ پر ہیں۔ ان میں بہت ساری مختلف خدمات موجود ہیں جو آپ آن لائن جاسکتے ہیں جو صرف میل آرڈر ہیں کہ آپ پیمائش کرسکتے ہیں اور آپ مختلف اقسام ، جیسے تھوک یا بالوں یا خون کا کام کرسکتے ہیں۔ اور آپ کر سکتے ہو… آپ جانتے ہو ، شاید اس کا سب سے درست طریقہ حقیقت میں کرنے کی کوشش کرنا ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، بال اور خون دونوں ، مثال کے طور پر ، اور پھر ان کا موازنہ کرنا صحیح ہے؟ تو ، میں پہلے پہچان دوں گا ، کہ کیا کمی ہے۔ اور یہ اتنا ہی آسان ہے جتنا صرف کمی کی جانچ کرنا ، اور پھر ان کوتاہیوں کو دور کرنے کے لئے کام کرنا۔ ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کے ل guys لڑکوں کے ل The بڑے افراد ، جیسے ، انجکشن موور میگنیشیم اور زنک ہیں۔ اور پھر… خواتین کے لئے بھی ایسا ہی ہے کیونکہ لڑکوں میں بھی تائیرائڈ کے بہت سارے مسئلے ہیں۔

لیکن تائیرائڈ کے ساتھ ، آیوڈین ، اور سیلینیم کی طرح ، یہ بھی آپ جانتے ہیں ، اس میں بڑے کھلاڑی ہیں اور اس سے آپ کو اچھuesے اشارے مل سکتے ہیں ، جیسے آپ کا مسئلہ کیا ہے۔ اور وٹامن ڈی 3 ایک اور بہت بڑا ہے۔ یہ دراصل ایک ہارمون ہے لیکن یہ ایک ہے… آپ جانتے ہو ، زیادہ تر لوگوں میں اس کی کمی ہے۔ اور پھر کولین ایک اور اچھی چیز ہے۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، میں نے پہلے ان تین اہم اعضاء کے بارے میں ذکر کیا ہے جن پر لوگ توجہ دینا چاہتے ہیں وہ ہیں تھائیڈروڈ ، تولیدی غدود اور جگر۔ اور کولین ایک بہت بڑی چیز ہے ، خاص طور پر جگر میں کیونکہ یہ آپ کے جگر کو مناسب طریقے سے چلانے میں مدد کرتا ہے۔ لیکن پولین کا تخمینہ لگایا گیا ہے کہ ریاستہائے متحدہ میں مردوں اور عورتوں میں ملک بھر میں 92٪ کمی ہے۔ لیکن یہ میتھیلین ایسٹروجن میں بھی مدد کرتا ہے ، خاص طور پر لڑکوں کے ل women ، لیکن خواتین کے لئے بھی ، جیسے آپ زیادہ ایسٹروجن نہیں چاہتے ہیں۔ ایسٹروجن واقعی مادہ ہارمون نہیں ہے۔ میں کہوں گا کہ پروجیسٹرون ہے ، لیکن ایسٹروجن ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، پوری آبادی میں یہ تیزی سے بلند ہے۔ اور عموما that یہی وہ چیز ہے جو ہارمونل توازن کو ختم کر دیتی ہے۔ لہذا میں یہ کہوں گا کہ ابھی یہ اختیار کریں کہ چونکہ پہلا قدم صرف ایک خوردبین تجزیہ کریں اور حقیقت میں دیکھیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، اس وقت آپ کے جسم میں بنیادی وٹامن اور معدنیات دیکھیں ، اور دیکھیں کہ آپ کی کیا کمی ہے ، اور پھر ان کو درست کریں۔ خامیاں پہلے ، اور اس پر کام کریں۔ اور یہ ایک عمل ہے ، لیکن ضروری نہیں کہ اس کو زیادہ وقت لگے۔ میرا مطلب ہے ، اور وہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، اسٹریٹجک اضافی کام آسکتا ہے اگر کوئی شناخت کرے کہ ان کے پاس ہے ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، ایک خوبصورت چمکدار میگنیشیم اور زنک اور آئوڈین کی کمی یا سیلینیم کی کمی ہے تو ، اس طرح تلاش کرنا آسان ہے ، جیسے کہ ان چیزوں کا بہت جاندار ذریعہ ، اور انہیں مستقل بنیاد پر لینا شروع کریں اور پھر اس کی دوبارہ پیمائش کریں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، یہاں تک کہ اپنی پیشرفت کا اندازہ لگانے کے لئے مہینے میں ایک بار بھی۔

ہارمون کی مناسب پیداوار اور ہارمون کے مابین توازن کے ل balance یہ تمام وٹامنز اور معدنیات ضروری ہیں۔ کیونکہ آپ کو یہ معلوم ہوگا کہ ، جیسے ہارمونز واقعی ہیں… اور میں ایک نیا واقعہ جاری کرنے والا ہوں۔ ہم یہ دستاویزی سیریز کر رہے ہیں جسے “دوبارہ سوچو” کہتے ہیں۔ اور میں آج ہارمونز پر اس ریکارڈنگ کے بعد ایک اصل میں جاری کر رہا ہوں۔ اور یہ اس موضوع کے بارے میں بہت ساری تفصیل میں جاتا ہے۔ لیکن ہارمونز کے ساتھ دیکھنے کی بات یہ ہے کہ آپ واقعی دوسرے ہارمونز سے رشتہ کیے بغیر ان کی پیمائش نہیں کرسکتے ہیں۔ لہذا وہ تناسب کی پیمائش کی شرائط میں زیادہ مددگار ہیں ، جہاں ، مثال کے طور پر ، لڑکوں کے لئے ، جیسے ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کورٹیسول تناسب انتہائی ضروری ہے۔ کورٹیسول ایک اہم تناؤ کا ہارمون ہے ، یہ مردوں میں تولیدی ہارمون کی حیثیت سے ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کے خلاف انسدادی طور پر کام کرتا ہے۔ اور آپ پروجیسٹرون والی خواتین میں بھی یہی چیز دیکھتے ہیں۔ لہذا آپ ان دونوں کی پیمائش کرنا چاہتے ہیں اگر آپ اپنے ہارمونز کی پیمائش کر رہے ہوں ، جو لوگوں کے لئے واقعی بصیرت ہے۔ بہت ساری بار جب لڑکا ڈاکٹر کے پاس جاتا ہے اور دیکھتا ہے… آپ جانتے ہو ، ڈاکٹر کی طرح ہوتا ہے ، “اوہ ، آپ کے پاس کم ٹیسٹوسٹیرون ہے۔” عام طور پر ، وہ کورٹیسول کی پیمائش نہیں کررہے ہیں ، وہ آخری ڈائل کی طرح E2 کی پیمائش نہیں کررہے ہیں۔ لہذا ، یہ جاننا مددگار ہے کہ ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کم ہے ، لیکن وہ آپ کو خون کے ان معیاری ٹیسٹوں پر اتنے ڈیٹا پوائنٹس نہیں دیتے ہیں ، جیسے ، اوسطا ڈاکٹر اس بات کا پتہ لگانے کے لئے ترتیب میں ہے کہ کم ٹی کی وجہ کیا ہے۔ ہے اور یہی وہ جگہ ہے جہاں سے آپ کو ایک اور زیادہ امتزاج کا نقشہ ملتا ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، ایک طرح کا عملی منصوبہ بناتا ہے اگر آپ حقیقت میں ان دوسرے ہارمونز کو ایک ہی وقت میں اپنے مائکروونٹریٹینٹ کی پیمائش کرنے کی پیمائش کرتے ہیں۔ تو آپ دیکھ سکتے ہیں ، میرے پاس کم ٹیسٹوسٹیرون ہے ، لیکن میرا میگنیشیم واقعی کم ہے ، میرا زنک واقعی کم ہے ، شاید میرا کیلشیم واقعی زیادہ ہے ، سوڈیم پوٹاشیم کم ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، اس طرح کی چیز آپ کو ایک زبردست نقشہ دے گی اور ایک طرح کا ایکشن پلان ، جیسے آپ اس مسئلے پر کس طرح شدت سے حملہ کرنا شروع کرسکتے ہیں۔ کیونکہ یہ… اور مجھے لگتا ہے کہ وہ ایسا کرتے ہیں خاص طور پر ان ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کے متبادل علاج کو فروخت کرنے کی وجہ سے۔

کیونکہ ، جس طرح سے پوری دواسازی کی صنعت کو میڈیکل اسٹیبلشمنٹ میں ڈیزائن کیا گیا ہے وہ بالکل ذہانت کا ہے لیکن یہ آپ کو معلوم ہے ، زیادہ تر لوگوں کی سمجھ سے بالاتر ہے یا صرف اس وجہ سے کہ زیادہ تر لوگ ، آپ جانتے ہو ، اس میں اس میں زیادہ دلچسپی نہیں ہے لہذا وہ نہیں ہیں ، جیسے ، کھودنا۔ لیکن جس طرح اس کا ڈیزائن کیا گیا ہے وہ یہ ہے کہ وہ آپ کو محدود مقدار میں ڈیٹا دیتے ہیں ، اور پھر وہ آپ کو اس مسئلے کو حل کرنے کے ارادے سے نہیں ، بلکہ تھوڑی مقدار میں ڈیٹا پر مبنی نسخہ دیتے ہیں ، دوا. یہ ضروری نہیں کہ وہ ڈاکٹر بھی ہو جو جانتا ہے کہ وہ کیا کر رہے ہیں ، لیکن یہ اس طرح کی تربیت یافتہ ہے۔ لہذا ، دوسرے بائیو مارکروں کی پیمائش کیے بغیر ، جیسے ایسٹروجن ، مثال کے طور پر ، عام طور پر ایسے سادہ ٹیسٹوں میں نہیں ماپا جاتا ہے جو کسی لڑکے کے لئے کم ٹیسٹوسٹیرون کی نشاندہی کرتے ہیں ، لیکن مسئلہ یہ ہے کہ ٹی آر ٹی لینے میں ایک بڑا خطرہ ہے ، خاص طور پر اگر آپ کے پاس ایسٹروجن کی سطح زیادہ ہے ، اور اگر مثال کے طور پر جگر کے مارکر بند ہیں۔ بہت سی ریسرچ موجود ہیں جن میں یہ دکھایا جارہا ہے کہ وقت کے ساتھ ساتھ ٹیسٹوسٹیرون ریپلیسمنٹ تھراپی پروسٹیٹ کینسر اور ٹیومر کو پروسٹیٹ میں بڑھنے کا باعث بن سکتی ہے۔ لہذا ٹیومر واقعی میں زیادہ ایسٹروجن کی سطح کے ساتھ انتہائی حد تک وابستہ ہیں۔ اور جب کوئی لیتا ہے تو ، آپ جانتے ہو ، اس طرح کا بایو ایک جیسی ایکسجنج ٹیسٹوسٹیرون ہارمون ہوتا ہے ، کیا ہوتا ہے وہ ایسٹروجن پروڈکشن کو کنٹرول نہیں کررہے ہیں اور ایسٹروجن پیداوار کو معاوضہ دے رہا ہے اور خاص طور پر اس وجہ سے کہ اس شخص کے جسم کی بنیادی بنیادی صحت اس وقت جانچ پڑتال نہیں ہے ، لہذا ایسٹروجن کی پیداوار کے معاملے میں بہت زیادہ امکان ہے۔ اور جب دائمی طور پر استعمال کیا جائے تو یہ ٹیومر کا باعث بن سکتا ہے۔ یہ ڈھونڈنا بہت عام ہے اور یہ طبی تحقیق میں کافی مشہور ہے ، لیکن جو ٹیسٹ لوگ کرتے ہیں وہ یہ جاننے کے لئے اتنا جامع نہیں ہوتا ہے کہ آیا انہیں اس طرح کے معاملے کا خطرہ ہے ، جب تک کہ وہ جاکر مزید تفصیل حاصل نہ کریں۔ پرکھ.

کیٹی: یہ اتنا سمجھ میں آتا ہے۔ اور مجھے خوشی ہے کہ آپ نے جگر کے پہلوؤں کو سامنے لایا۔ مجھے لگتا ہے کہ اس کے بارے میں کافی بات نہیں کی جاتی ہے۔ اور آپ نے کولین کا تذکرہ کیا ، جو میرے لئے سوئی سے چلنے والا ایک بڑا کام بن گیا۔ ایک چیز جس میں مجھے نیویگیٹ کرنا سیکھنا پڑا اور مجھے اس پر آپ کے ان پٹ پسند ہوں گے ، میں بھی انڈے برداشت نہیں کرسکتا۔ اس سے میرے لئے جلد کی جلد کے مسائل پیدا ہوجاتے ہیں۔ اور یہ کم از کم Choline غذا کا سب سے واضح ذریعہ ہے۔ جہاں تک ماخذ تک چولین کی تکمیل کی بات آتی ہے تو آپ کیا تجویز کرتے ہیں؟

کرس: دراصل ، جیسے ، جگر بھی واقعتا بہت اچھا ہے۔ کھانے کی طرح… یہ ایک طرح کی دلچسپ بات ہے کیونکہ غدود بہت زیادہ مقبول نہیں ہوتے ہیں ، لیکن وہ مقبولیت میں آرہے ہیں۔ اور یہ واضح طور پر واقعی اہم ہے ، جیسے ، غدودی غذایی ضمیمہ کا منبع بہت اہم ہے یا حتی کہ ایک ضمیمہ بھی نہیں ، بس اگر کوئی جگر کھاتا ہے تو ، میں اسے خریدنے کی سفارش نہیں کروں گا ، جیسے ، بس ، آپ جانتے ہو ، معیاری چکن زندہ بچنے والے گروسری اسٹور جب تک آپ نہیں جانتے کہ وہ واقعی قانونی طور پر ہیں۔ خاص طور پر یہاں بولڈر میں ، بہت سارے مقامی فارم موجود ہیں لہذا غدود خریدنا آسان ہے کیونکہ عام طور پر کسان صرف انھیں پھینک دیتے ہیں ، لہذا آپ ان سے صرف اس کا مطالبہ کرسکتے ہیں۔ لیکن جگر کا استعمال ایک اچھ qualityے معیار کے ذریعہ سے جیسے ہفتہ میں ایک بار ، ہفتہ میں ایک بار استعمال کرنا اچھا ہے۔ ایک اور چیز صرف الگ تھلگ کولین سپلیمنٹس ہے۔ میں عام طور پر کولین بٹارٹریٹ استعمال کرتا ہوں۔ یہ سب سے زیادہ جیو دستیاب نہیں ہے بلکہ قیمت کے مقابلے میں جیو دستیاب ہے ، یہ بہت اچھا ہے اور ، آپ کو کافی مفید معلوم ہے۔ اور آپ یہ بھی استعمال کرسکتے ہیں… الفا-جی پی سی ، سائٹیکولین ، سی ڈی پی کولین جیسے اور بھی ہیں۔ اس کے لئے سپلیمنٹس کافی مفید ہیں۔ انڈوں کی چیز یہ ہے کہ… اس کے بارے میں میری پہلی سوچ شاید ایک ہسٹامائن عدم رواداری ہے ، جو آپ جانتے ہو کہ یہ بہت عام ہے۔ لہذا اگر اس سے جلد کی پریشانی ہوگی ، تو یہ معاملہ ہوگا۔ کیا ایک جلد کا مسئلہ ہے ، جیسے ، چھتے کی قسم کی چیز ہے یا خارش ہے؟

کیٹی: ہاں ، اور یہ دراصل ایک اور سوال تھا جس کی فہرست میں میں نے آپ کے لئے ممکنہ طور پر ہسٹامائن کی عدم رواداری کے لئے کچھ بھی کرنا تھا کیونکہ یہ وہی ہے جو میری جماعت میں نسبتا often اکثر آتا ہے۔

کرس: اوہ ، ٹھیک ہے۔ جہاں تک میں جانتا ہوں ، ہسٹامائن کے معاملات ، جیسے ، اس کا بہت حصہ گٹ سے منسلک ہوتا ہے۔ لہذا ، یہ آپ کو معلوم ہے کہ ، آنت کی کسی بھی قسم کی صحت سے متعلق دشواری کا ازالہ کرنا ، جو کسی کو ہوسکتا ہے ، واقعی میں ایک اچھا پروبائیوٹک استعمال کرتے ہوئے ، بلکہ یہ بھی دیکھتے ہیں کہ وہ کیا کھا رہے ہیں۔ میرے خیال میں ، جہاں تک میں جانتا ہوں ، ہسٹامین عدم رواداری ایک ہے جسے دور کرنے میں کچھ وقت لگتا ہے۔ لہذا یہ ایسی کوئی چیز نہیں ہے جس کے بارے میں آپ انصاف پسند کر سکتے ہو ، آپ جانتے ہو ، ایک ضمیمہ لیتے ہیں اور فوری طور پر ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، اس پر قابو پانے کے قابل ہوجائیں ، جیسے آج کی قسم کی چیز کو۔ لیکن اس کا ایک بہت کچھ گٹ سے منسلک ہے۔ اور پھر جگر کے ساتھ ، جگر کی کچھ سپلیمنٹس اس کی مدد کرسکتے ہیں ، جیسا کہ ایک ایسیٹیل سسٹین واقعی اچھا ہے۔ زیتون کی پتی کا عرق واقعی اچھا ہے۔ بنیادی باتوں کی طرف واپس جانا ، جیسے ، سوزش کے معاملات ، جن میں سے زیادہ تر آنتوں سے ہوتا ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، یہ یقینی طور پر جسم میں ظاہر اور دوسرے اعضاء کرتا ہے۔ تو میں صرف آنت کی صحت پر توجہ دوں گا ، جیسے ، اس پر بڑا درست ہونا۔ تم جانتے ہو ، میرے پاس ماضی میں بھی تھا۔ مجھے ہسٹامین عدم رواداری کا مسئلہ درپیش ہے ، یہاں تک کہ یہاں تک کہ میں سنتری کا رس نہیں پی سکتا تھا کیونکہ یہ آپ کو معلوم ہے ، جلد بھڑک اٹھی ہے ، جو پاگل تھا۔ لیکن جتنا میں نے آنتوں کی صحت پر زیادہ توجہ مرکوز کی ، وہ اتنا ہی کم ہو گیا ، اور مجھے ان مسائل کا سامنا نہیں کرنا پڑا۔

کیٹی: دلکش۔ ٹھیک ہے. لہذا ، جگر کی طرف گھومنے کے ل I ، میں اس سے اتفاق کرتا ہوں کہ میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ یہ ایک بہت بڑی چابی ہے۔ کچھ دوسرے طریقے کیا ہیں جن سے ہم جگر کو سہارا دے سکتے ہیں؟ مجھے لگتا ہے کہ بہت سارے لوگوں کا یہ ایک مشترکہ عنصر ہے۔

کرس: ہاں لہذا ایک نقطہ جو میں جگر کے بارے میں بتانا چاہتا تھا ، جیسے… آپ جانتے ہو ، میں نئے سال میں تھرمو ڈائیٹ پر اپنی نئی کتاب جاری کر رہا ہوں ، اور میرے پاس چینی کے بارے میں ایک باب ہے ، اور واقعی میں چینی کتنی غلط فہمی ہے۔ اور ایک مسئلہ یہ ہے کہ جگر کے مسائل میں بھی کئی ایک عوامل موجود ہیں ، اور ان میں سے ایک عموما ch دائمی چولین کی کمی ہے۔ چنانچہ ، کلائن کی کمی کی نشاندہی کرتے ہوئے ، میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ یہ واقعی میں ایک اچھا پہلا قدم ہے کیونکہ ، تقریبا population پوری آبادی کی طرح ، آپ جانتے ہو ، 90 فیصد سے زیادہ افراد جو ایک ہزار میں ناپے گئے تھے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، سبجیکٹ گروپ ، جس میں کولین ہے کمی ایک بہت بڑا معاملہ ہے ، کیونکہ کاربوہائیڈریٹ کے ساتھ اس طرح سے تعلقات کی وجہ سے کہ ان پر عملدرآمد اور فراہمی ہو۔ لہذا ، چینی کو فیٹی جگر کی بیماری ، غیر الکحل فیٹی جگر کی بیماری کا الزام لگایا جاتا ہے۔ And the actual culprit to it is a combination of… It’s not the carbohydrates themselves. It’s actually the combination of the choline deficiency with excess polyunsaturated fat consumption, which, you know, I just call it PUFA. Like, we all just call it PUFA. So, the polyunsaturated fats are so easily oxidized in the body, that what they do is they cause inflammation in all sorts of different areas of your body. But one of the big ones is actually your liver. So, when you have the concert of the choline deficiency and the polyunsaturated fat consumption in the excess, causing that inflammation in the liver, that’s actually what causes a lot of these liver problems in people. And it’s not, you know, fructose, which is what’s being blamed for the whole thing, like eating fruit is causing liver disease. You know, the number one big levers is correcting the choline deficiency and stop eating polyunsaturated fat, which, you know, comes from vegetable oils, mainly. That’s where people mainly get it in their diet, but also in nuts, seeds, you know, like just pressed oils, that sort of stuff.

Anything that’s not… It’s mostly plant-based oils are the ones that are full of polyunsaturated fat. And I know that’s not really conventional wisdom to be, like, don’t eat plant-based oils because plant-based is such a trend right now. But the animal oils are far lower or, you know, some of them have no polyunsaturated fat, but they’re far lower in polyunsaturated fat, and they don’t lead to that toxic level of that consumption. You know, a lot of people are eating foods, like every restaurant that I know of, unless I go in, and there’s some local ones where I can go in and be like, “Can you cook this in butter?” And they’re totally cool with it. Especially chefs love butter. I don’t think they really wanna cook with the canola oil, and grapeseed oil, and rice bran oil, and all that stuff, but it’s just what, you know, the owners of the restaurants really supply to them. So a lot of them will accommodate, you know, using butter. But I would say for liver problems, like that’s the easiest way to start healing your liver is just stop eating polyunsaturated fat, overcome the choline deficiency, stop consuming things like acetaminophen, Tylenol, is, like, very hard on the liver. And there’s been a lot of research in terms of hormones because when the liver is taxed with NSAIDS, you know, stuff like Advil, and Aleve, Tylenol, it actually starts to overproduce a hormone or a binding protein for hormones called SHBG, which is sex hormone-binding globulin. And that binds the active sex hormones in the body, the reproductive hormones that makes them so they can’t bind to receptor sites. So that can lead to alone a lot of hormonal imbalance issues. Whereas, like, the body might be producing enough of that hormone on its own, but the liver is actually mediating all of it and causing those issues downstream because of, you know, SHBG production in the liver.

And another issue with the liver and why you wanna keep it really healthy is for thyroid reasons because T4 is sent from and produced in the thyroid gland, but sent, you know, to the liver. And the liver is where the tyrosine is kind of cleaved off of it. So it becomes active thyroid hormone T3. And if the liver is not functioning properly because of certain things like this, like the polyunsaturated fat consumption, the lack of glucose in it, the lack of choline in it and, you know, consumption of regular, you know, pain relievers and other things that are gonna…or a lot of alcohol, things that are gonna tax the liver are gonna basically hamper that conversion to T3, and then it’s gonna be producing too much SHBG. So, it’s a pretty simple way to look at it. Very, you know, fact-based, but I just don’t think a lot of people really know about it yet. And, you know, hopefully, that’s a good starting point for people that are listening to this.

Katie: I’m so glad you brought that up. I wrote years ago about the problem with vegetable oils and polyunsaturated fats, and took a lot of heat for it. I’m guessing you have people that probably don’t agree with you on that as well. But truly, like my stance has always been, our body doesn’t really know what to do with these oils, like you said, and they’re relatively new to our diets. I’ve also seen some data implicating them in a lot of other problems. But that’s just liver health. So I’m so glad that you talked about that. What are some other myths that you think are related to a lot of the common dietary dogma? You mentioned the sugar aspect and the polyunsaturated vegetable oils. Are there other areas that you think are commonly started this diet advice that really it’s poor advice?

Chris: Yeah. So, when it comes to the micronutrients, I think a big myth, going back to, like, you know, a lot of plant-based dogma is… And this kind of transcends plant-based, in general, but just looking at, you know, the basic, healthy eating dietary advice that people are gonna just throw out there and regurgitate without questioning it is, a lot of it causes micronutrient deficiencies, even foods that people think are generally healthy. Things like nuts and seeds, like I referenced before, even more so than the polyunsaturated fat aspect to them is the anti-nutrient aspect. And anti-nutrients are interesting because they are, you know, essentially these charged molecules that will bind useful minerals in your body. So, a big one that I think is pretty common and talking about it with, you know, like, the Paleo world especially, has been phytic acid. And the fact that phytic acid can so easily chelate minerals out of the body. I read a study that was a big review on all the, you know, available research at that time on phytic acid. And in the opening section and the introduction of the review, the researchers pretty much blatantly claimed, like, they believe that phytic acid consumption is quite possibly the biggest reason why across the entire world people are deficient in a lot of different micronutrients, just because it’s being chelated or all these nutrients are being chelated by this anti-nutrient. And that’s an interesting way to look at it because one of the biggest things that I think most people don’t ask themselves when it comes to health, and I think that’s why a lot of people kind of go down these rabbit holes, in terms of trends, is the fact that barely anyone ever defines what health is. And, you know, the World Health Organization defines it as the absence of disease, which is completely unhelpful, right? That doesn’t really tell you how to thrive. It just tells you, like, if you’re healthy, if you don’t have a disease. Like, that’s kind of ridiculous in my mind.

But, you know, as far as I’ve seen over the years and just studying all this stuff, it comes down to really two things, you know, one of which depends entirely on the other, being micronutrient deficiencies are the biggest cause of dysfunction in health. They’re also the easiest thing to solve. And then that leads to hormonal balance. So if the hormones are unbalanced, which implies, you know, the ratio aspect that I was talking about earlier, in relation to one another, then you are gonna be healthy. That’s what real health is. I think that’s the biggest misunderstanding, in just general population of people, is that, it’s really quite simple when you start to think about it that way, you know, and then you can make decisions about the foods that you wanna eat, or the supplements that you take, or the exercise that you do, all based around that really simple definition of what health is being healthy… Being healthy is not having micronutrient deficiencies and having balanced hormones. So it’s a lens that you can see all of your decisions within. And you can start to make positive choices. Like the way I frame it when I talk about is usually activators and blockers. So things that are activators are things that you can do at any time in the day that’s gonna bring you toward that state of health, and then blockers being something that you do or consume, that is actually taking you away from it. It’s causing hormonal imbalance or it’s causing inefficiency. So, it’s really radically simple way to think about it. And that starts to inform, like, the truth about these dogmatic things that people believe, for example, like the nuts and seeds thing. When you look at all the data on nuts and seeds, they’re not very healthy foods at all, when looked at in that sense. Like, they’re full of polyunsaturated fat. They’re also full of anti-nutrients. And on top of it… I read this review on nuts, for example, and they looked at all the different types of nuts that people typically eat, almonds, walnuts, you know, etc. And they found that the only one that the human digestive system can actually get access to bioavailable minerals within it is walnuts and it’s magnesium.

Despite the fact that all these nuts also, they contain a lot of minerals. Problem is that there’s no compatibility with the human gut. So your gut can’t actually get the minerals out of them. And they’re full of anti-nutrients, which are gonna bind minerals that are already in your system. So they’re a net negative in terms of how I’m looking at that. And that’s why I would say that nuts and seeds aren’t healthy. Same with certain things like vegetables. If you define vegetables in the sense, of, like the stems and leaves of plants, they contain a lot of anti-nutrients and goitrogens, things that block iodine uptake into the thyroid gland. So, you know, when you look at all the available data on them, it doesn’t seem like they’re extremely healthy. And I did a video on vegetables a couple of years ago on YouTube. And, you know, got a lot of hate for sure, but also a lot of people were, like, really interested in that idea. Because I basically said that vegetables aren’t necessary to be healthy. And then I also, you know, showed different research showing that there’s potentially, not necessarily but there’s certain aspects of them that might be causing health issues in the human body. So there’s a lot of random stuff but I think the most helpful thing for people to grasp from this and take away is that if you define health as not being deficient in key micronutrients and having balanced hormones, then it helps you to make choices about, you know, all the different things that you eat, all the different things that you do in your lifestyle, for stress management, for sleep, etc., and then like the way you exercise, and the type of supplements that you use, and that sort of thing. It’s just like a very simple way to look at it. But very accurate. So, high leverage.

Katie: I will put some resources in the show notes link to the video you mentioned at wellnessmama.fm for all of you listening. But if someone is new to the idea of avoiding phytic acid, you kind of explained all the sources of vegetable oils and polyunsaturated fats. What are some of the main key places you wanna avoid phytic acid? You mentioned nuts. What other things do people wanna be cautious of?

Chris: Beans. So, like, beans is an interesting one too. And that was another controversial thing that I’ve done. I’ve done plenty of videos where I talk about this stuff that people don’t necessarily receive it very well, but beans is one of them. And I know that’s kind of hard for people, especially in certain cultures, like, beans are kind of a mainstay in those cultures. But there’s, you know, beans and then stuff like brown rice because the… And that’s something else that’s a bit against the dogma. But brown rice has a lot of phytic acid in it, as well as certain heavy metals that are, you know, very commonly tested and found in brown rice, like lead, and arsenic, and mercury. And it’s because the bran of the grain… And, you know, the same is true of other grains that are, like, these whole grains that have the bran still intact on the outside of the grain. They find that the bran of the grain is highly concentrated in these in these things. But then when you, you know, chuck the grain and, like, are consuming the grain or the bran of the grain itself, it’s more of just a pure starch, like white rice, you know, something like jasmine rice, just more pure starchy. So, there’s actually a study that showed that… And I know this isn’t popular for vegans and vegetarians, you know, in terms of what they would wanna hear, but there was a whole study on it, that demonstrated that vegetarian diets because they’re so high in these phytic acid-containing foods, like nuts, seeds, beans, and whole grains, that they’re actually at, you know, very high risk for nutrient deficiencies, specifically iron, zinc, and trace minerals, like iodine.

So, those are the main things that I pay attention to, in terms of phytic acid. And another issue with phytic acid is that it actually causes a… It’s like an inhibitor, essentially of different enzymes, such as trypsin, and pepsin, and then amylase-alpha. And so these digestive enzymes… And that’s why a lot of people, when they consume a ton of these foods, they start to have digestive issues because the enzymes aren’t actually working properly because they’re being inhibited by the phytic acid itself, and it’s in such high quantities. You know, pepsin itself is the main digestive enzyme in your gut. An, you know, there’s plenty of research showing that phytic acid directly inhibits it. So, not only are you not able to even get access to a lot of these nutrients, but it’s messing up, you know, just a balanced gut function, in general.

Katie: Yeah, exactly. I’m so glad you talked about that and it certainly does go against a lot of the common wisdom that vegetables, beans, and brown rice might not be the best option. But you’re right, I’ve seen that data as well. And certainly, you can do things… I’ve read like pressure cooking reduces phytic acid. It doesn’t fully eliminate it. Like, there are ways to reduce it. And I know a lot of vegetarians and vegans who are trying to be conscious of that. But to your point, those do affect the body in a pretty serious way.

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To flip it on the positive side, so you made a case for some of the more common foods to avoid. And you talk about the Thermo Diet a lot online and you’ve mentioned it here. What are some of those core foods that are good to focus on that are high in micronutrients or high in the things that our body needs?

Chris: Yep, good question. So, the main ones I like to just… Like, a simple way to remember it is just fruits and roots. And our friend, Michael Lovich actually coined that term. Because I was telling him all about Thermo stuff and then he was like, “Oh fruits and roots.” So that’s just an easy way to remember it. The fruits themselves, like if you think about, and this goes back to, like, the vegetable issue, if you look at the definition of a vegetable being just, like, the leaves in the stem of the plant, they have a lot of protective mechanisms built-in and these micro toxins that are released to protect the plant, but the root itself is a very nutrient-rich part of the plant. And that’s really what fuels, you know, the entire growth of everything. The roots are great for nutrient levels, very easy to digest in terms of, especially if they’re prepared properly. And something, like, people might think about, like, you know, with potatoes, for example, oxalates, like, or the easy thing with potatoes is you just boil them. And when you boil them, there is a study showing that boiled potatoes, all the oxalates actually go out. And if you boil it in saltwater, they go out into the saltwater. So they leave the potato. It’s easier to digest. You know, other roots being like sweet potatoes, yucca, you know, just easy starch. And then if you cook it well, then it’ll be easy to digest and get access to those nutrients bioavailable. I’ve even seen people in, like, the Rapey community discussing certain things about if you boiled potatoes, and then leave them, you know, in the cold overnight, it basically, like, creates this really good prebiotic starch that is easier to consume and easier to digest. With fruits, fructose is a great fuel. Glucose is a great fuel for the body. The nutrients in the fruits are extremely easy to digest and are bioavailable. Fruits logically are just meant to be eaten, really. The seeds themselves are the aspect that people can’t digest, right? So, if you look at it in an evolutionary way, it makes total sense very logical that, you know, a fruit, it is going to ripen. And if it gets overripe, it falls off of the tree or the vine or wherever it is.

And it has a seed in it, and there’s a bunch of seeds, and they just kind of replant. It’s like the circle of life. But even if it’s consumed, the animal can’t actually digest the seed inside of the fruit and then ends up, you know, defecating, and it finds its way back somewhere and then, you know, can grow again, right? So I would focus on fruits and roots, and then I would focus on animal products, like, from good quality sources. That’s really the caveat with really everything. The quality of the source, especially with animal meat is very important because, like, if you buy meat or animal products that are…if the animals are mistreated, they live in, you know, high cortisol, you know, lifestyle, if they’re injected with different hormones, if they have high estrogen levels, if they’re not being fed, what they actually should be eating, for example, if they’re being fed, you know, soy and different things that are just completely unnatural in order to fatten them up and create more estrogen, then that meat’s not very healthy for humans to eat or in that milk, or whatever animal product it is. But if the animal is treated well and actually, you know, matures in a normal, natural environment, then it’s extremely healthy because it’s already… For example, you know, grass-fed beef, like grass-fed cows or grass-fed, whatever bison, game meat, that sort of thing, it’s just eating its natural thing, its natural diet, and it’s got the, you know, stomachs… These ruminant animals have multiple stomachs. And they have enough capacity to actually digest all the grass and do it properly. So the human eating the meat is actually the right step in that sequence of events, not the human eating the grass because we can’t digest those leaves, and they are highly anti-nutrient-dense. So I would focus mainly on fruits and, you know, high-quality meat really or animal products. So it’s quite simple.

Katie: And I know you have a Facebook group about that as well. And you mentioned your book, I’ll make sure those are both linked in the show notes as well. Are there any specific differences or considerations for women if they’re starting out with this as compared to men? Obviously, it worked drastically well, for you with testosterone. Are there any special things women need to be cautious of?

Chris: In general, there’s not much difference, in terms of…because it’s such a foundational look at how the body works. And it’s just that the ratios are slightly different in women in terms of the hormones. But that doesn’t mean… Like the way that women’s bodies, actually, you know, function with the endocrine system, if you’re consuming, you know, similar things, it’s going to naturally balance the female body in the way that it should. I would say a couple of things that women specifically should pay attention to would be, you know… And you mentioned dealing with Hashimoto’s. I think thyroid issues are much more common in women. I think it was like 1 in 8 women have a thyroid problem or potentially even higher than that. So I would focus on what could be possibly causing that thyroid issue in the first place. And then holding that up against that lens of the definition of what’s healthy and what’s not. And, like, a lot of women, actually end up focusing more on eating leafy greens and eating things that are potentially goitrogenic. Like kale, for example, is found to be highly goitrogenic, especially when eaten raw, where it blocks the iodine uptake in the thyroid, which is gonna lead to, you know, basically compromised T4 production from the thyroid gland. So, you know, kind of taking a second look at, if a woman is dealing with thyroid issues and take a look at what could potentially be causing those thyroid problems in the first place, in terms of, like, daily habits, nutrition habits and deficiencies, you know, in that, like, if someone’s iodine deficient that they eat a ton of leafy greens and, you know, potentially causing that problem for them. And then just focusing on things that are going to help with progesterone, which, again, is very similar for men and women. It just manifests itself slightly differently because, you know, the endocrine systems are favoring different hormones really, between the two genders.

Katie: Got it. And then this, I’m sure could be its own entire podcast topic. So definitely, we can just cover it briefly. But you also talk quite a bit about fitness online. And I’m curious… I know, there are also a lot of misconceptions when it comes to the best things to do for overall fitness, just as you mentioned, first of all, probably defining that term, like we do with health. But what is some of the common advice that you give related to fitness?

Chris: Usually, like, with fitness, I guess, the most blanket one would be… And this was the biggest realization for me because, like I mentioned, I was focused on doing a lot of endurance training in the sports in that aspect. And I thought it was healthy, but then I realized that really, it’s not at all. So, that really informed how I started to think about fitness was is, am I doing a blocker or an activator, you know? And a lot of fitness for people causes excess cortisol, specifically, endurance training, cardio training, when it’s done, you know, I guess chronically is the right term for it. That came a term with chronic cardio, right? So, it’s something that will chronically elevate cortisol levels, which chronically suppresses at the same time, reproductive hormones and, you know, testosterone, progesterone. So, I would re-examine the volume of cardio training that people do. And if they’re having problems with their reproductive hormones and their sex drive libido, and they’re training a lot in doing endurance training, like normally, then I would re-examine that. And what was interesting was that I started looking at, especially for guys, but I know the same is true with women is, you know, there’s different muscle groups in men and women that can actually increase receptor sites for different hormones. So a lot of dogma with guys, in terms of, like, if you look at bodybuilding as an industry, if you look up on, you know, bodybuilding.com or Tea Nation or whatever, it’s like, how do you increase testosterone with different training? You’re gonna find a lot of stuff about squatting and deadlifting, which, you know, it’s not inaccurate, but it’s just heavily focused on that. However, the legs… And they say it because it activates a lot of muscle tissue at once, which is also true. But the problem or I guess, it’s not even a problem, it’s just the overlooked aspect of it, is that I started looking into it, and certain upper body muscle groups can actually express more androgen receptors over time with training.

And they can, you know, basically express more of these receptor sites, as opposed to the legs being more limited in increasing the expression of the receptor sites. So that got me interested in that in terms of androgen receptors. You know, and that’s why you also see, like, in certain guys that end up having higher testosterone levels and then even guys that, like, when they start taking steroids, you start to see this expression of more muscle volume development in certain muscles groups, and it’s because of that. And those muscle groups for guys, it’s like the traps, the shoulders, upper back, upper chest, the arms, but those are things that can be trained, you know, naturally to express more of those receptor sites, so they can actually bind more testosterone. You can grow more muscle in those areas, which, you know, in the case of guys, like, you know, that’s what a lot of people look at, a guy that’s got, like, big traps and shoulders it’s like, oh, like a manly guy, right? It’s kind of coded into our genetics, in our evolutionary biology to like to see that because it looks strong, right? With women, it’s just different muscle groups that are… It’s more expressive of other hormone sites that can help, you know, shape, like, a feminine body being more, you know, in the hips. And it’s usually also correlated with areas in, like, tissue areas that express more estrogen storage. So, like, for guys, a lot of estrogen storage happens in the gut or, like, in the stomach area and the hips. And then same with women, a lot of estrogen storage is also in those areas, in the hips, but also in, like, the glutes. So those areas, though, can be trained to have more favorable, like, less estrogen storage but also, you know, more expression of anabolic hormones, naturally. So they start to shape the body. So once I started to realize that, that was how I started to look at fitness, it’s almost an evolutionary biology lens of fitness of, like, what muscle groups are actually preferred, in terms of training those to have a better hormonal effect.

And that got me on to, like, neuromuscular training, specifically, where it was… And this is the same for men and women. You can create more of that just by doing more explosive type training, shorter bouts, less, like, chronic endurance training, so that the cortisol… You know, anytime someone, physically trains, cortisol is going to elevate, but it’s really about the ability to recover from the elevation of the cortisol and take advantage of the anabolic impact of that, you know, weight training or explosive training, like maybe sprinting or box jumps or something, so that the body actually starts to favor that and build those muscle groups up to support that sort of activity. And over time, it starts to really become noticeable. It’s easy to see when people are training that way, versus, like, if you think about, you know, people that run marathons and everything, like… Unless you’re an elite level marathoner, like most people, they don’t actually end up having very good shape of their body because there’s a lot of cortisol that’s being produced by the body that’s very stressful and breaks down muscle tissue. And there’s potentially a lot of also estrogen storage that is not being, you know, gotten rid of. Like, methylation is an easy way to get rid of estrogen. And then just supporting the positive feedback loop with more favorable reproductive hormones, which can be done through nutrition, obviously, and supplementation, you know, micronutrients, but also through training.

Katie: Got it. Yeah, I’m excited. I was just about to embark on a fun experiment for myself. I’ve talked about this on the podcast before, but I grew up with the filter that I wasn’t an athlete that was largely from my parents, just because they wanted us to focus on academics. And as an adult, I’ve developed a love for different types of athletic activities, and especially realized I have really high fast-twitch. And so, I’m gonna be training with some local track athletes doing sprinting and pole vaulting, which are very explosive movements, and I’m excited for that. But that makes sense when you explain the way that that impacts the body so directly. And you made a really strong case of challenging a lot of the common dietary and fitness dogma out there. If someone wants to keep learning from you and wants to kind of start on this journey, where’s the best starting place that I can send them?

Chris: So, I would say, like, I think… So we have a few Facebook groups that are great. So the Thermo Diet community on Facebook is a great one. It’s just, you know, a free group. A lot of good interaction there, a lot of discussion. People are talking about stuff. We just started a fitness platform called UMZU Fit. And so if people just go over to umzu.com, and just search for UMZU Fit, you can find it over there. But, you know, for people that are really interested in learning about all this stuff, UMZU fits great because we have all of our courses in there, and then we also have a community in there. So it’s like a hybrid basically between, you know, a forum kind of, like, Reddit, and Facebook group, but then you also get access to all the courses. And at the moment, at the time of recording this, we have 16 courses in there, including the Thermo Diet, as well as different fitness courses for both men and women. And, you know, it’s pretty fun community so far. So, I would just have… You know, if you’re interested, just check out umzu.com, and then check out the Thermal Diet group on Facebook.

Katie: And I’ll put those links in the show notes at wellnessmama.fm for those of you who are listening while you work out, or drive. You can find everything there. And I’ll make sure we link to UMZU as well because you mentioned your supplements in passing, but you have a whole suite of amazing supplements. My husband’s on quite a few of them for testosterone and has seen great results, so I’ll make sure we link to all of those as well. A somewhat unrelated question I love to ask at the end of interviews, selfishly, because I’m always looking for new reading material is if there’s a book or a number of books that have really impacted your life, and if so, what they are and why?

Chris: Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I love reading. So I have tons of books. I would say that my favorite one… I have a favorite author, Baltasar Gracián. And so he was a Jesuit monk, very wise dude, like, very, very smart. And the way he writes is in kind of, like, aphorisms or, like, little nuggets of stuff. And a good one that I would recommend is “The Art of Worldly Wisdom.” It’s just like a great read. You can sit down and, you know… He’s the kind of writer where you read… He’ll write, like, two or three sentences of, like, a smart observation that he made. And this was hundreds of years ago. This guy’s, like, long gone, right? But he writes these little, like, just a couple sentences, but you could chew on that for months. It’s, like, super packed with wisdom. So I love reading his stuff. And it’s just kind of good rules for life, rules to or they’re more principle base, you know. So I’d recommend Baltasar Gracián.

Katie: That’s a new suggestion. I’ll have to check that out. I’m excited. And thank you so much, Chris, for being here, for sharing. I have gotten an increasing number of questions about the Thermo Diet recently, and I know that it’s definitely getting more and more popular right now. You’re helping thousands of people. I’m excited that you shared so much of this with us today. And I’m appreciative of your time. Thanks for being here.

Chris: Thank you, Katie. Yeah, I’m really glad to be here. Thanks for letting me share.

Katie: And thank you as always for sharing your most valuable asset, your time, with both of us today. We’re so grateful that you did and I hope that you will join me again on the next episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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