How to Keep the Immune System Strong During COVID-19

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Katie: Hello, and welcome to the Healthy Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from and, it’s finally “Valenci” with E. And this special event is about some practical and evidence-based strategies and supplements that I am currently using to focus on gut and immune health and to keep my family hopeful, safe and well. And I feel like supporting immune health and bowel health, it’s important all the time, something we can always improve on and it’s really important to do it at any time, but especially important right now, That’s why I asked my friend Tina Anderson Just Afraid to join me today for health. And we talk about a number of products that have been supported by scientific studies, including probiotics that help with double-blind placebo studies, and which can help them improve bowel health and Seems to help the defense system. We also highlight some of the other defense support strategies that are affordable or completely free, and some of the lifestyle management tools we’re both doing to keep our families healthy and happy. In between. But I think this event is full of many practical suggestions, and I hope it helps you and your family. And without further ado, let’s join Tina.

Tina, welcome. Thanks for joining me again.

Tina: Thanks, Katie. I’m excited to be here

Katie: I’m excited to talk to you, and this is one of the silver lining we both have in the house right now, that I have more time to do things like podcasts, That means I will talk to you today. So, I highly recommend it, and I know it’s your mentality to think positively. And people have heard you quote me many times over and over. You were the point of my quote that everything would work out fine for me. It comes from you, so I always have to say when we are together or chatting.

But I’m excited today. I think we have a lot of things that are just going on and with all the things that are going on right now and it sure is a lot of uncertainty and a little wild thing has happened to the virus in the last few weeks. And everything. And I can’t wait to figure out some practical strategies for that and then really take them a couple of them deeper. So, to begin with, I’d love to hear both your mindset and then practically, what are you doing to help your own system and your family right now?

Tina: Yeah. I think mentally Katie is very important. I mean, that’s really the key. It’s such a scary time for people, and I think we should just change our focus. You know you’re right. I talk about Thanksgiving all the time because I think Thanksgiving allows us to shift my focus, and I’ve just been focusing on how happy I am to spend more time with my children. Yes I have a daughter in college in California, and she’s home with me now. So it’s wonderful to be around him and raise his son… you know, to sit around with my kids and eat time and have lunch together and focus on things like this instead of in the news. Is happening and watching the news. General Chat Chat Lounge And I’m really trying to focus my mind because it’s scary for all of us, even people like me who really try to look at… you know, change my focus in this regard. ۔

And one of the biggest things I do is breathe. I am a huge fan of deep breathing. I do meditation. I don’t meditate as well but I think I probably should too, but I’m really busy breathing and meditation, exercise, sleep. All these things are important to our mental health as well as our physical health. And then, of course, take all kinds of supplements that are critically important, such as probiotics, IgG, prebiotics, vitamin C, vitamin D, trying to get the most out and vitamin D. And all of those things are really important for me to stay hydrated.

Katie: Absolutely. And, yes, I think we will explore all these strategies in detail nowadays, and I am always remembering … Well, first of all, every time I talk to you, I feel like As you raise your soul and you are just such a wonderful reminder of being thankful and seeking a positive. And at times like this, I also think of one of my favorite books as “Meaning for the Search of Man”, and it also contains a quote from Victor Frankel. “Everything can be taken from a human being, but one thing, the ultimate thing about human freedoms is to choose one’s behavior in any situation, choose your own method,” he said. And I keep thinking about it just because so many people are told we can’t go anywhere. As such, we have been told a lot that we cannot. And that’s what I’ve been reminding my children and reminding myself that we always have the choice to be positive and grateful and to choose it for others in our lives.

And I also know that we both know Ryan Holiday, and I like all his books, like his approach to modern behavior. And this is funny because there is a Latin quote, “matters fati”, which means love for destiny or basically love it. And that was kind of my thing for this year. I didn’t expect to get into such an accident course because when you know, like a month ago everything is amazing, and the economy looks like … everything is going great, and All the kids are healthy, and the business is great. And when we actually have tough problems, it really requires a bit more work, and so this is my inner lesson that I think. And it also has to learn to love the bad things because there is a lesson or silver lining in it or everything is a good thing, not just things that look good at first glance.

Tina: Yeah. Oh, my God, I love it, Katie. That’s how I try to live my life and spread it to so many other people. But I know it’s difficult when people are struggling and losing jobs and economic uncertainty. This is terrible, but then you’re fine. We have the option to control our attitude towards whatever situation we are presented with.

Katie: Absolutely. And that’s why I love that we started with mindfulness. I think it’s very important, and I keep reminding people, every storm goes through the rain, and so will it. And before we step into health strategies, I just want to say that I think our words are very important, and so I’m asking people to consider changing and socializing. Stop saying the distance. Maybe somewhere in the distance, but I think we need emotional and social interaction. I am sad to see people fear other people, and I know we have to keep our distance, but now we are not letting the social distance be the only physical distance.

Tina: I like it.

Katie: Okay. So let’s talk about health right now because the reason I want to be special about you right now is that you have done a lot of research and have developed amazing products that help in the health of intestines. Provide support. And I know that most people think that the intestines have a really important role in our immune system, but I really like the way it is… can you walk us into detail and just explain it? Can our gut health manifest how our immune system affects our entire body?

Tina: Oh, of course, this is the time when we should focus on the health of our gut, I mean, if ever there is a time. I am really thankful that I am in the business that I am now because knowing that my children, my parents, my in-laws, siblings and family members and close friends and our customers The family members are taking it. The product is because … it is the most important time to take care of our gut health. This is a time when we need to build our resilience.

There is currently no cure for quotidian 19. There is nothing to show that there is a natural cure for any drug or pharmaceutical to show that we can treat or prevent COVID-19. But what we do know is that we have to rely on our defense system to protect it because there are no drugs or treatments. And our defense system is working well. So everything we do to stay healthy is really important, and the gut plays a really important role in the immune system.

Therefore, about 80% of our immune tissue is in the gut. We have begun to follow recent studies on how this immune system contrasts with that particular virus. A study out of Australia found, and we found that this study shows that T cells and B cells are spread which are essential for detecting and fighting the virus. And most of this spread is in the tissues that are found in the gut in the small intestine, which is why it is so important to look after our intestines.

The key is a healthy microbiome because it is our microbiome that stimulates these tissues to improve the proliferation of immune cells. So, you know, our immune system is currently our only defense against this virus, and 80 percent of our immune system is in the gut. So if you have a dysfunctional intestine, your immune system can be suppressed or tangled, or flip side, if you have a healthy and functioning microbiome, your immune system will function better. Should work

So the virus, this corona virus, also infects the intestine. As we know, there was a recent study that showed that the virus was present at a high level in the case of organs. So it is repeating in the intestines. And actually, another study showed that 53% of COVID-19 cases show gastrointestinal symptoms before the itching, such as diarrhea, pain, stuff like that. So, the gut immune system is trying to figure out how to deal with it.

Therefore, our immune system is primarily in the intestine, and acts through the gut process and drives the spread of the immune system that originates in the gut, but then everywhere in the body. Therefore, it becomes a really important part of our defense mechanism, and indeed probiotics can help. You know, we show that stress in Just Afrin actually regulates some of the beneficial immune responses in the gut, which then translates to the rest of the body.

We also know that stress, ovaries, which are found only in bloom, also increase the diversity of bacteria in your gut, which is really important for your immune system and the pathogenic infectious bacteria. It helps to have less and fight against the intestine, which is really important. Because right now the last thing we need is a pathogenic bacterium that is producing toxins and increasing inflammation and gout, because it works against the immune system. So really, during this time it is important to keep your pelvis as strong and healthy as possible because our gut provides a lot of strength.

Katie: Yeah. I think that’s a pretty good point. Again, we have control over whether we know that there is no direct cure for it, even a drug that is working directly, even though I know scientists have Working hard But what we can do, as you said, is to focus on ways to strengthen our system so that we can handle it. And I always remind people, our immune system was designed to do that. That is why we have a strong immune system. And so we don’t have to go into full break out mode. We just need to find some practical strategies that help our immune system stay ready. And in my opinion, as you just explained, this is a really important factor and the health of the intestines. Can you talk about that … I know you did in your first podcast episode, and I will make sure it is in the show’s note. But give us just one primer, again, on different types of probiotics and why you want to focus on those specific stresses, especially when you’re trying to improve the gut.

Tina: All right. Okay fine. Yes. Therefore, stress-based probiotics are considered in Just Afraid. The majority of other probiotics present in the market are strains of the lactose bacillus and bifidobacterium species. And so the majority of probiotics contain these Bacillus bifidobacterium strains, usually they are highly susceptible organisms. They have difficulty surviving in the gastric system.

In fact, you know, many people need to be kept in the refrigerator to survive. So we’re always wondering if it needs to be refrigerated to survive, then how in the world will it keep your body temperature, which is 98.6, leaving the gastric system, Which is so acidic and is known as gastric obstruction. And the answer is that most of these stresses never keep the intestines alive.

The first study we did as a company was a survival study. We took the top probiotic sold at a major health food store that contained 50 billion county CFUs, a colony-forming unit, and showed that 99.99% of probiotic stress was in the intestines before Dies before leaving Since then, a third-party independent lab has tested hundreds of different probiotics in the market, stating that most of them die, with 99.9% of cells dying only after reaching the intestines.

So really, with a lot of probiotics, we’re getting dead cell therapy, which is, in fact, some research that shows that dead bacteria also provide some symptomatic relief. The only difference with the ornamental scissors is that they have this endosperm shell around them, and again, this is not something we’ve done … you know, we didn’t engineer them. What is it. یہ وہ طریقے ہیں جو ہم ماحول سے حاصل کرچکے ہیں ، ان کے پاس فطری طور پر یہ اینڈو اسٹور شیل اپنے ارد گرد تھا ، اور جب یہ خول اپنے ارد گرد رکھتے ہیں تو وہ خستہ حال ہوجاتے ہیں۔ لہذا یہ اس وقت تک نہیں ہے جب تک کہ وہ آنتوں کو نہیں مار پاتے ہیں کہ وہ شیل اتار دیتے ہیں ، اور وہ اپنی روایتی پودوں کی سیل حالت میں جاتے ہیں۔

لہذا جب وہ کیپسول میں ہوتے ہیں ، وہ دیرپا ہوتے ہیں۔ جب وہ مٹی میں پائے گئے ، وہ غیر فعال تھے۔ جب وہ پروڈکشن میں ہوں ، وہ غیر فعال ہوجاتے ہیں۔ جب آپ انہیں نگل جاتے ہیں ، وہ غیرجانبدار ہوتے ہیں۔ جب وہ آپ کے گیسٹرک سسٹم سے گزرتے ہیں تو ، وہ غیر فعال ہوجاتے ہیں۔ یہ تب تک نہیں ہے جب تک کہ وہ آنتوں پر نہیں لگتے کہ وہ اپنا خول اتار دیتے ہیں اور وہ زندہ ہوجاتے ہیں ، اور یہی وجہ ہے کہ آپ کو زندہ رہنے کے لئے کسی پروبائیوٹک کی ضرورت ہے۔

اور پھر دوسرا بڑا فرق یہ ہے کہ جب وہ آنتوں میں آجاتے ہیں تو وہ واقعتا وہاں تقریبا 21 سے 28 دن قیام کرتے ہیں جہاں وہ کام کرتے ہیں۔ وہ اندر چلے جاتے ہیں۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، مجھے اس باغ کی مشابہت استعمال کرنا پسند ہے ، اور مجھے لگتا ہے کہ میں نے اس کا ذکر پہلی ہی قسط میں کیا یہ تناؤ باغ میں جاتے ہیں ، جس کا آپ آنتوں سے تشبیہ دیتے ہیں۔ وہ باغ میں جاتے ہیں ، اور وہ مٹی سے منسلک ہوتے ہیں۔ ان میں باغ میں ماتمی لباس سے چھٹکارا پانے کی صلاحیت ہے اور پھر ان میں پودوں کو لانے کی صلاحیت ہے جس پر قدم رکھا ہوا ہے اور روندتے ہوئے زندگی کو زندہ کیا ہے۔

تو آنت میں ، وہ آنتوں کے سیل دیوار سے منسلک ہو رہے ہیں۔ ان میں حقیقت میں یہ صلاحیت موجود ہے کہ وہ کچھ پیتھوجینک بیکٹیریا ، جو بیکٹیریا کی ایک بڑھ چڑھائی سے چھٹکارا حاصل کرسکتے ہیں۔ اور پھر ان میں یہ صلاحیت ہے کہ وہ واقعی اچھے بیکٹیریا لائیں۔ وہ اچھ bacteriaے بیکٹیریا کو قریب قریب زندگی میں لانے کے ل comp مرکبات اور غذائی اجزاء تیار کرتے ہیں اور واقعی یہ ہمارے گٹ میں اس سرسبز ، خوبصورت ، متنوع باغ کو بناتے ہیں ، جو ہماری مجموعی صحت کے لئے اتنا اہم ہے۔

کیٹی: بالکل۔ مجھے لگتا ہے کہ امتیاز واقعی ، واقعی اہم اور خاص طور پر ابھی ہے۔ اور میں جانتا ہوں کہ جب ہم گٹ کی صحت کے بارے میں خاص بات کر رہے ہیں تو اس کے ساتھ کچھ اور حکمت عملی بھی سامنے آسکتی ہیں۔ ابھی میں نے بہت سارے ڈاکٹروں کو سنا ہے ، مثال کے طور پر ، ذکر کریں ، کسی بھی ایسی چیز کو ہٹائیں جو سوزش ہو سکتی ہے ، لہذا شوگر یا پروسیسڈ فوڈ جیسی چیزیں ، جو سوجن کا سبب بن سکتی ہیں۔ اور پھر فائدہ مند پہلو ان چیزوں کو آنت میں ڈال رہا ہے تاکہ اس کو موقع دیا جاسکے ، جیسا کہ آپ نے کہا تھا ، ان سبھی چیزوں کے بڑھنے کے ل.۔

ایک اور چیز جس کو میں یہ یقینی بنانا چاہتا ہوں کہ ہم اس کے بارے میں بات کریں ، کیونکہ یہ آپ لوگوں کے لئے ایک نئی مصنوع ہے ، اور میں نے ابھی پوڈ کاسٹ پر بات نہیں کی ہے ، لیکن ابھی بھی ممکنہ طور پر واقعی ایک خاص فائدہ ہے کہ آئی جی جی کا کردار ہے۔ تو ، وسعت دینے کے ل you ، کیا آپ ہمیں یہ بتا سکتے ہیں کہ سب سے پہلے آئی جی جی کیا ہے ، اور پھر ہم ضمنی پہلو میں جائیں گے؟

ٹینا: ضرور جی ہاں آئی جی جی کا مطلب ہے امیونوگلوبلین جی ، اور امیونوگلوبلین جی جسم میں پایا جانے والا سب سے پرچر قسم کا اینٹی باڈی ہے۔ لہذا ، یہ سب سے عام اینٹی باڈی ہے جو جسم میں پایا جاتا ہے ، اور اس کا کام اینٹی جینز سے لڑنا ہے ، لہذا بیکٹیریا ، وائرس اور زہر جیسے چیزیں۔ تو یہ واقعی ، واقعی اہم ہے کہ ہمارے پاس اپنا IgG ، ہمارا قدرتی IgG لڑنے کے لئے کام کر رہا ہے… آپ جانتے ہو ، آگے بڑھیں۔

لہذا IGG صرف جسم میں کرتا ہے کیا یہ پابند ہے۔ تو یہ ان زہروں کو پکڑتا ہے جو پائے جاتے ہیں ، جیسے کہ میں نے کہا ، وائرس ، بیکٹیریل زیادہ افزائش ، روگجنک بیکٹیریا ، سڑنا ٹاکسن جیسے وائرس اور مختلف قسم کے ماحولیاتی ٹاکسن ، اور وہ انھیں باندھ دیتے ہیں۔ تو وہ ان پر قبضہ کرلیتے ہیں ، اور پھر وہ انہیں غیر جانبدار کردیتے ہیں تاکہ وہ مزید پھیل نہ جائیں۔ اور پھر جسم ان کو جسم سے محفوظ طریقے سے شوچ کے ذریعے نکال دیتا ہے۔ لہذا ، آئی جی جی بہت اہم ہے ، خاص طور پر ابھی اس وقت۔

اور اسی طرح ہم نے الٹیمیٹ IgG نامی ایک پروڈکٹ تیار کی ہے ، اور اس کے نتیجے میں یہ کیا ہوتا ہے… یہ ہمارے جسم کو ہمارے جسم میں تقریبا 25 25٪ زیادہ آئی جی جی دیتا ہے۔ اور اصل شکل جو ہمارے پروڈکٹ میں ہے اس کا مطالعہ دوسرے وائرل انفیکشن میں کیا گیا ہے۔ در حقیقت ، جس طرح سے ہمیں اس جزو کے بارے میں معلوم ہوا وہ وہ کام تھا جو ہم نے ایچ آئی وی مریضوں کے ساتھ کیا تھا۔

ہم اس کنسورشیم میں ایچ آئی وی کے ساتھ شامل تھے کیوں کہ ہم جانتے ہیں کہ ایچ آئی وی کے ساتھ بہت سارے لوگ… وہ آنت کی بیماری سے مر رہے ہیں ، ضروری نہیں کہ وائرل بوجھ ہو۔ لہذا ، جب میں گٹ انٹروپیتھی کہتا ہوں تو ، میں آنت کی رسد یا ہمارے آنت کی پارگمیتا کے بارے میں بات کر رہا ہوں۔ لہذا ، جب ہمارے پاس ہمارے پیٹ میں ایل پی ایس ٹاکسن ہوتا ہے تو ، وہ خون کے دھارے میں داخل ہوجاتے ہیں ، اور یہ بہت پریشانی کا باعث بن جاتا ہے۔ یہ ایچ آئی وی والے لوگوں کے لئے بھی بہت پریشانی کا باعث ہے۔

لہذا ، اس آئی جی جی کا اصل طور پر ایچ آئی وی جیسے مختلف وائرل انفیکشن کے ساتھ بھی مطالعہ کیا گیا تھا ، اور جو مطالعات ان سے ظاہر ہوتا ہے وہ یہ ہے کہ آئی جی جی ڈرامائی طور پر سی ڈی 4 ٹی خلیوں میں اضافہ کرتا ہے۔ اور یہ سی ڈی 4 ٹی سیل اہم ہیں اور جو ہمارے پائے جانے والے مدافعتی ردعمل کو فروغ دینے میں مدد کرتا ہے۔ لہذا ہم انکشش مدافعتی ردعمل چاہتے ہیں۔ ہم فطری طور پر مدافعتی ردعمل نہیں چاہتے ہیں۔ جب ہم اس قسم کے وائرس سے نمٹنے کے ل. ہیں تو ہم انکشش مدافعتی ردعمل چاہتے ہیں۔

تو ، وہ یہ بھی ظاہر کرتے ہیں کہ زبانی IgG بیکٹیریل ٹاکسن ، سڑنا ٹاکسن اور وائرل ٹاکسن کو جکڑا ہوا اور غیر جانبدار کرتا ہے۔ اور اس بات کا کوئی ثبوت نہیں ہے کہ یہ COVID-19 کا پابند ہے ، اور میں یہ تجویز نہیں کررہا ہوں۔ لیکن اس بات کا ثبوت موجود ہے کہ یہ دوسرے ٹاکسن اور پیتھوجینز کو باندھتا ہے ، اور اس سے ہمارے جسمانی دفاعی نظام پر یہ بوجھ پڑتا ہے ، اور یہ جسم میں زہریلے اثر کو نیچے لاتا ہے۔ تو یہ واقعی ، واقعی ایک اہم معاون میکانزم ہے۔

انہوں نے زبانی آئی جی جی اور دیگر وائرل چیلنجز ، کوویڈ 19 نہیں بلکہ دوسرے وائرس کے استعمال پر مطالعہ کیا ہے۔ اور انھوں نے در حقیقت پایا کہ زبانی آئی جی جی کی موجودگی واقعی مدافعتی نظام کو ان وائرل انفیکشنوں کو تیزی سے ختم کرنے میں مدد کرتی ہے جب آپ کے پاس زبانی آئی جی جی نہیں ہے۔ تو یہ واقعی اہم ہے۔ یہ مدافعتی نظام اور اس کے اینٹی ویرل جزو کی واقعتا. معاون میکانزم ہے۔ میرا مطلب ہے ، بنیادی طور پر یہ قوت مدافعت کا نظام ختم کر رہا ہے۔ اس کو دیکھنے کا بہترین طریقہ یہ ہے کہ جیسے ہم لے جارہے ہیں… آپ جانتے ہو ، برے لوگوں کی مقدار کو کم کررہے ہیں ، اور اسی طرح اب ہمارے پاس ہمارے قدرتی قوت مدافعت کے نظام کو لڑنے کے ل what لڑنے کی ضرورت ہے۔ لہذا ہمارے مدافعتی نظام میں مزید ٹولز بنیادی طور پر وہی ہوتا ہے جو یہ کرتا ہے۔

اور ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، آپ نے سوزش کے بارے میں بات کی تھی ، اور مجھے لگتا ہے کہ ایل پی ایس کے کردار کے بارے میں بات کرنا واقعی اہم ہے ، جس کے بارے میں مجھے لگتا ہے کہ میں نے مختصر طور پر بات کی ہوگی۔ ایل پی ایس صرف لیپوپولیسچرائڈز کے لئے کھڑا ہے۔ یہ ایک اینڈوٹوکسین ہے جو بنیادی طور پر ہمارے آنتوں میں پایا جاتا ہے ، جو واقعتا that اتنا مسئلہ نہیں ہوتا ہے جب یہ آنت میں ہوتا ہے۔ جب یہ خون کے دھارے میں داخل ہوتا ہے کہ ہمارے مدافعتی نظام میں اس کی طرح اشتعال انگیز ردعمل ہوتا ہے۔ اور ہم نے لیکی گٹ پر ڈبل بلائنڈ ہیومین کلینیکل ٹرائل کیا۔ یہ 2017 میں دوبارہ شائع ہوا تھا ، اور اس مطالعے نے حقیقت میں یہ ظاہر کیا ہے کہ بیضہ بیزار بیکٹیریا کا استعمال کرتے ہوئے ، ہم دراصل خون کے بہاؤ میں ایل پی ایس کے اخراج کی مقدار کو کم کرسکتے ہیں۔

آپ جانتے ہو ، اور نہ صرف یہ کہ خون کے بہاؤ میں ایل پی ایس کا مستقل اخراج نہایت کم درجے کی سوزش کا سبب بنتا ہے اور انتہائی دائمی حالت کا ڈرائیور ہے ، اس سے COVID-19 اور دیگر قسم کے وائرسوں کے ہدف وصول کرنے والوں کا اظہار بھی بڑھتا ہے۔ لہذا ، آپ کے گردش میں جتنا زیادہ ایل پی ایس آپ کے پاس ہے دائمی بیماریوں کی اکثریت کے لئے یہ ایک اہم خطرہ ہے ، لیکن اب یہ اور بھی اہم ہو جاتا ہے کیونکہ آپ کے گردشی نظام میں ایل پی ایس کوویڈ- کے ان ہدف وصول کرنے والوں کے اظہار کو منظم کرتا ہے۔ 19 اور دیگر قسم کے وائرس۔ لہذا ، ہم واقعی یہ یقینی بنانا چاہتے ہیں کہ ہم اس گٹ لائننگ کو سیل کر رہے ہیں۔

اور دونوں بیضوں کو ڈبل بلائنڈ کلینیکل ٹرائل میں دکھایا گیا ہے تاکہ گٹ کے استر کو مضبوط بنانے کے ل the سخت جنکشن کو سیل کرنے کے لئے پروٹین تیار کرنے میں مدد ملے۔ لیکن آئی جی جی نے گٹ رکاوٹ کے زیادہ مضبوط فنکشن کا واقعی معاون ثابت کیا ہے۔ لہذا ، امتزاج واقعی ہے… جیسا کہ میں نے کہا ، میں اس قدر شکر گزار ہوں کہ میرے بچے اسے لے رہے ہیں ، میرے والدین اسے لے رہے ہیں ، میرے سسرال والے۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، میرا سارا کنبہ اور ہمارے صارفین کا کنبہ یہ لے جا رہا ہے کیونکہ مجھے لگتا ہے کہ ہم اس وبائی حالت میں ابھی دنیا کو تبدیل کرنے میں مدد کر رہے ہیں جس کی وجہ سے ہم لوگوں کو ان کے مدافعتی نظام کی مدد کرنے میں مدد کر رہے ہیں۔

کیٹی: ہاں۔ اور یہ بہت مددگار ہے کہ صرف اوزار حاصل کریں اور یہ جاننا کہ آپ ایسا کچھ کرسکتے ہیں جو آپ کے جسم میں مددگار ثابت ہوسکتی ہے اگر آپ کو عام طور پر مضبوط مدافعتی صحت کے لئے وائرس ہونے کی صورت میں آپ کے جسم میں مدد مل سکتی ہے۔ اور آئی جی جی کے نوٹ پر ، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ لوگ اس اصطلاح سے واقف ہوسکتے ہیں اگر ان کے پاس ، جیسے کھانے کی حساسیت کی جانچ یا اس طرح کی کوئی چیز ہو کیونکہ آئی جی جی بنیادی طور پر جسم میں ایک مارکر ہے جس سے میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ … جیسے ، مثال کے طور پر ، جب میں آئی جی جی ٹیسٹنگ کرتا ہوں تو ، یہ انڈوں یا عدم رواداری سے الرجی ظاہر کرتا ہے۔ تو میں انڈے نہیں کھا سکتا۔ کیا آپ اس طرح کی وضاحت کر سکتے ہیں کہ وہ تمام ٹکڑے ٹکڑے کیسے ایک ساتھ فٹ ہوجاتے ہیں؟

ٹینا: ہاں۔ یہ کچھ مختلف ہے۔ میرا مطلب ہے ، یہ ایک ہی چیز ہے۔ یہ ظاہر کر رہا ہے کہ ہمارے اینٹی باڈیز کس طرح انفیکشن کا جواب دے رہے ہیں۔ لہذا ، حقیقت میں ، اس مطالعے کا میں نے آسٹریلیا میں ذکر کیا ، اس مطالعے سے کیا پتہ چلتا ہے کہ ایک 47 سالہ خاتون تھی جو کوویڈ 19 کو تیار کرنے والی تھی ، اور وہ اس کے خون کی جانچ کر رہی تھیں۔ وہ اس کی قریب سے نگرانی کر رہے تھے ، اور انہوں نے محسوس کیا کہ جب علامات دور ہونا شروع ہوگئے تو اس کی آئی جی جی اور اس کی آئی جی ایم کی سطح میں شدت آچکی ہے ، لہذا جب کوویڈ 19 کے علامات دور ہونا شروع ہوگئے۔

تو یہ ہمیں بتا رہا ہے کہ یہ آئی جی جی اور آئی جی ایم ہے جو حقیقت میں اس خاص وائرس سے لڑ رہا ہے ، جو واقعی دلچسپ ہے۔ جب ہم دیکھ رہے ہیں تو اس سے یہ ایک مختلف طریقہ کار ہے… میرا مطلب ہے ، ہم صرف اتنا جانتے ہیں کہ آئی جی جی دراصل لڑ رہی ہے… آپ جانتے ہو ، ان مخصوص اینٹیجنوں اور روگجنوں کو پکڑ رہے ہیں جو ابھی ہمارے جسم میں چل رہے ہیں۔

کیٹی: سمجھ گیا ٹھیک ہے. یہ سمجھ میں آتا ہے۔ اور اس لئے میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ اس کو سمجھنا ضروری ہے کہ یہ ایسی چیز ہے جو ہمارے جسم میں موجود ہے ، اور آپ نے کہا ہے کہ یہ سب سے زیادہ پرچر ہے۔ میں جانتا ہوں کہ آئی جی ایم اور آئی جی اے جیسے لوگ بھی ہیں ، لیکن جیسا کہ آپ نے کہا ، تو آئی جی جی وہ ہے جو جسم میں ہونے والے انفیکشن سے لڑنے اور اس طرح کی چیزوں کا مقابلہ کرنے کی ہماری صلاحیت میں سب سے زیادہ ملوث ہو ، ٹھیک ہے؟

ٹینا: ٹھیک ہے۔ جسم میں اس کی سب سے زیادہ مانگ ہوتی ہے ، اور یہ جسم کا سب سے عام امیونوگلوبلین اینٹی باڈی ہے۔

کیٹی: سمجھ گیا اور مجھے لگتا ہے کہ اس کو اجاگر کرنا بھی ضروری ہے جیسا کہ آپ نے وہاں ہونے والے مطالعے میں ایچ آئی وی مریضوں میں کہا تھا کہ لوگ حقیقت میں خود ہی وائرس سے نہیں مر رہے تھے۔ وہ اس کے اثرات سے مر رہے تھے جیسے آنت اینڈوٹوکسینز ، اور یہ ظاہر ہوتا ہے کہ ہم COVID کے ساتھ بہت سارے معاملات میں دیکھ رہے ہیں کہ لوگ خود ہی وائرس سے نہیں مر رہے ہیں۔ مثال کے طور پر سیپسس یا ثانوی چیزوں سے ان کی موت ہو رہی ہے۔ اور اس طرح ہم ان تمام چیزوں کو بہتر طریقے سے سنبھالنے کے ل the جسم کو مضبوط بنانے کے لئے جو کچھ بھی کر سکتے ہیں وہ میرے خیال میں ابھی بہت اہم ہے۔

ٹینا: ہاں۔ مجھے اتفاق نہیں کر سکے. میرا مطلب ہے ، ان سب چیزوں جیسے وٹامن سی بہت اہم ہے ، لیکن آپ کے آنتوں کی رکاوٹ کی حمایت کرنا واقعی اتنا ضروری ہے ، اس لئے یہ انتہائی ضروری ہے کہ ہم اپنا مدافعتی نظام ابھی بہتر طور پر کام کرتے رہیں ، اور اس پر زیادہ زور نہیں دیا جاسکتا ہے۔ اور ہم جانتے ہیں کہ دفاعی نظام بنیادی طور پر گٹ ٹشو میں ہوتا ہے۔ تو یہ واقعی ، واقعی اہم ہے۔

کیٹی: بالکل۔ میں جانتا ہوں کہ میں شو نوٹوں میں روابط کے نوٹوں میں روابط I.G اور پروبیوٹک دونوں کے ساتھ ساتھ کچھ ایسی تحقیق پر بھی ڈالوں گا جو مجھے معلوم ہے کہ آپ لوگوں کے پاس ہے اور آپ… اور آپ کی سائٹ پر کچھ تعلیمی مضامین ہیں تاکہ لوگ اس میں تلاش کرنا جاری رکھ سکتے ہیں۔ جیسا کہ آپ نے کہا تھا ، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ ہم اس پر تحقیق کرتے رہیں گے ، اور خاص طور پر جب بات کوڈ انڈر -19 کی ہو تو ، ہم ابھی بھی بہت نیا ہیں جو ہم جانتے ہیں اور کیا نہیں جانتے ، لیکن اس کے قابل کچھ عملی حکمت عملی ہیں جن کو ہم ابھی نافذ کرسکتے ہیں تو یہ بہت مددگار ہے۔

اور اس نوٹ پر ، میں دوسری معاون حکمت عملی کی طرح بھی بات کرنا چاہتا ہوں جو آپ اپنے کنبے کے ساتھ کر رہے ہیں۔ میرا خیال ہے کہ ہم جو انداز اختیار کررہے ہیں اس میں ہمارے پاس بہت زیادہ اوورلیپ ہے۔ آپ نے ذکر کیا ، اور میں جانتا ہوں کہ یہ ہم دونوں کے ل a ایک بہت بڑا کام ثابت ہوگا لیکن باہر سے زیادہ سے زیادہ وقت صرف کرنا۔ میں جو تحقیق دیکھ رہا ہوں وہ یہ ہے کہ ہم COVID-19 سے متعلق مخصوص مطالعات سے نہیں جانتے ہیں ، لیکن ہم تنفس کے امور پر ہونے والے مطالعے سے جانتے ہیں کہ سانس کی کسی بھی قسم کی بیماری سے ، وٹامن ڈی انتہائی حفاظتی ہے۔ اور ہم پورے بورڈ کو جانتے ہیں کہ وٹامن ڈی کی سطح کو بہتر بناتے ہوئے ، مثال کے طور پر ، آپ کو بیماری کی ہر قسم کو بہتر طریقے سے سنبھالنے میں مدد ملتی ہے ، اور اسی طرح یہ ایک اور حکمت عملی ہے۔ شکر ہے ، بہت ساری جگہوں پر دھوپ آرہی ہے لیکن ایک اور حکمت عملی جس کو ہم سب نافذ کرسکتے ہیں۔ میں جانتا ہوں کہ میں ابھی باہر سے زیادہ سے زیادہ وقت گزارنے کی کوشش کر رہا ہوں ، اور میں اندازہ کر رہا ہوں کہ آپ بھی ہیں۔ لیکن آئیے اس کے بارے میں بات کریں جیسے سورج کی روشنی اور وٹامن ڈی اور باہر کا وقت۔

ٹینا: اوہ ، ہاں ، میں آپ سے زیادہ اتفاق نہیں کر سکتا ، کیٹی۔ میرا مطلب ہے ، چاہے آپ سرد موسم میں ہوں ، باہر جانا اتنا ضروری ہے۔ ذہنی صحت کے ساتھ ساتھ ہماری جسمانی صحت کے ل we ، ہم جانتے ہیں کہ ہمیں اپنے مدافعتی نظام کی مدد کرنے میں بھی وٹامن ڈی کی ضرورت ہے۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، میں کوشش کر رہا ہوں کہ زیادہ سے زیادہ پیدل چلتے ہوئے ، پسینہ آتے ہو۔ میں واقعتا پسینے کی کوشش کر رہا ہوں۔ میں خوش قسمت ہوں کہ آپ جیسے گھر میں سونا پائے گا۔ یہ پسینہ آنا بھی بہت ضروری ہے۔ لیکن میرا مطلب ہے ، یہاں تک کہ اگر آپ کے پاس سونا بھی نہ ہو ، باہر جاکر بھاگتا ہو اور پسینہ آرہا ہو اور اپنے جسم کو گرم کروانا ، جو یقینا which لڑائی میں بھی مدد کرتا ہے۔

میرا مطلب ہے ، مطالعات اب یہ ظاہر کررہے ہیں کہ وائرس گرمی کو پسند نہیں کرتا ہے۔ تو یہ ایک اچھی علامت ہے۔ لیکن ہم باہر جارہے ہیں ، موٹر سائیکل پر سوار ہوکر چل رہے ہیں۔ مجھے لگتا ہے کہ اس پوری چیز میں یہ ایک اور تحفہ ہے۔ میں نے بہت سارے لوگوں کو موٹرسائیکل سواریوں پر باہر دیکھا ہے ، یہاں تک کہ سرد موسم میں بھی ، اور صرف ایک کنبہ کی طرح چلنا اور باہر باسکٹ بال کھیلنا وقت گزارنا ، آپ جانتے ہو ، بس کنبے کے ساتھ اور اس طرح کے مختلف کام کرتے رہتے ہیں۔ اس وقت بہت سارے تحائف ہیں۔ یہ ناقابل یقین ہے۔ میں جانتا ہوں کہ افسوسناک کہانیاں بھی بہت ہیں ، لیکن بہت سارے تحائف بھی ہیں۔ میں بچوں کے ساتھ زیادہ وقت گزارتا ہوں اور ساتھ میں باہر رہتا ہوں اور موٹر سائیکل پر سواری کرتا ہوں اور اس طرح کی چیزوں پر۔

کیٹی: ہاں۔ میں بالکل اتفاق کرتا ہوں۔ میں جانتا ہوں کہ اسکول موخر ہونے یا منسوخ ہونے سے بہت سارے کنبہوں کے لئے یقینی طور پر ایک بڑی تبدیلی رہی ہے ، اور میں جانتا ہوں کہ بہت ساری ماں مارچ کے وسط میں موسم گرما کے شروع ہونے کے لئے بالکل تیار نہیں تھیں۔ لیکن اس کی چاندی کی پرت ، جیسے آپ نے کہا تھا ، کیا آپ اپنے بچوں کے ساتھ ، خاص طور پر بڑے بچوں کے ساتھ ، جیسے آپ کو سال کے اس مقام پر ان کے ساتھ اتنا معیار وقت گزارنے کے لئے وقت نہیں مل پاتا ، اگر وہ اب بھی ہوتے ابھی اسکول میں۔

ٹینا: ہاں ، بالکل جی ہاں. تم بہت ٹھیک کہتے ہو My daughter is in college in California, and she came home, and so it’s just so wonderful to have her home with all of us and just to be together as a family. I feel so blessed to have that extra time and not be running. That’s the thing, running from practice to practice and game to game. It’s been really nice to have this time together.

Katie: Yeah. Exactly. I hope that we can all look back sooner than later and realize that this was a great time of bonding and getting to focus on the really important things like time with family. Again, I’m hoping this will pass relatively quickly. We’ll see. Time will tell. But I hope that we can all one day…

Tina: Yes, me too.

Katie: …look back and have positive memories and have found the good in it, and certainly be interesting to see what our kids look back and say, too.

Tina: Right. I think it’s so fun seeing the kids become so creative to do different things. You know, I just think it’s been a great challenge for them also. I’m not saying it’s not hard, and I agree. I hope it passes sooner rather than later, but just seeing them cooking together and being more creative and doing different things. My kids are older, but I mean, even like some friends you see on Facebook and Instagram doing different fun things with their families and cooking. And the memes have been hysterical. I mean, I have never laughed so hard with some of the memes out there. My mom and I keep sending things back and forth to each other. We have so many different group chats. We did a huge family group FaceTime with both my husband’s side of the family and my side of the family. They were like 20 of us. No one could hear anything, but we just laughed the whole time. So, it’s been a time to really laugh and enjoy and have time for humor.

Katie: Absolutely. And I figure like it’s one of those things like I’m gonna try to learn. I know your kids are on TikTok. I need to learn TikTok. Like all these things I would never have ever thought to do otherwise.

Tina: Oh, my God, that’s fortunate. That’s all they’re doing is doing more TikTok. That’s hysterical. میں جانتا ہوں. میں زیادہ راضی نہیں ہوسکتا تھا۔

Katie: Yeah. I agree. The memes are funny, and I think it’s also important to think of like this is such a rare thing that we truly are all in this together, not even just the U.S., but we are globally in this together. And so, I know that we’re all isolated but at the same time like we’re in something together. And if we can build the community out of this and use this time to nurture relationships and to make them stronger, I think we can, on the other side of this hopefully all emerge stronger and better and more connected. That’s my hope.

Tina: Absolutely. I mean, I see it already. I feel like I’m making more calls to people I’ve been out of touch with and just touching base with people that time didn’t allow me before to do that. So, it’s very, very true. And there’s so many cool learning. I think parents are learning all these different learning tools out there. There are so many online sources, and I think people are starting to realize that they could take a bigger role in their child’s learning. That’s pretty cool, too.

Katie: Yeah. It’ll be really interesting to see the lasting changes in the education system that come from this. And what I’ve been encouraging my kids to do…because I think boredom is the big struggle for kids especially as we all adjust to like, “How do you keep everyone busy when we’re all in the same house?” And so what I’ve been encouraging my kids to do is I’m like, “We have literally the entirety of information, human information available at your fingertips through the internet. So how are you gonna use this hopefully only in next couple of weeks but maybe months to improve yourself?”

And so I’ve even, since we do homeschool, been letting them negotiate. I’m like, “Come to me with a proposal and tell me how you’re gonna improve yourself in the next two months and what skills are you gonna learn. Let’s make this a time of like building and improving and not just thinking of all the bad that’s gonna happen.” And so we are collectively learning Japanese. I’ve got kids learning harmonica and piano. One is learning how to do a backflip, which I might die of heart fright from watching her, but she, I have no doubt, will get it. And so that’s my other encouragement to moms is like let it be fun. Let it be a game. And like how can we all improve ourselves. I’m finally doing some exercise classes much more regularly because I’m home and have time to do them.

Tina: Right. Me too. ٹھیک ہے۔ Exactly.

Katie: Yeah. So the other thing we can talk about both from the mom perspective and the health side is the importance of a daily routine in general but also like an immune-supporting daily routine right now. And so like I’ll share some things that I think are helpful and you can build on them. I’ve mentioned it before, but I am a big fan of light. Not just for the vitamin D, I think that’s super important as well. But I’ve always encouraged people, and I try to everyday go outside really soon after waking up and get natural light as soon as possible after waking up, and that also is important for immune health and hormone health and so many other things because that light signals the whole circadian cascade. And so that’s something simple and free that we can all do is just get light as soon as possible after waking up.

Also, I’ve been tightening up my fasting regimen right now just in the name of supporting immune health. What I’ve been reading from the researchers on this like Dr. Peter Attia. He’s saying we don’t know if long water fasts are good right now because we just don’t have any research on that, and there’s a chance they could…like during a long fast, you might temporarily suppress the immune system. So they’re not recommending long fasts, but they are recommending kind of what they call circadian fasting, which is just eating in a shorter window during the day, whatever window that ends up being for you, and then just not eating after dark. And that’s another signaling mechanism because food is part of that circadian biology.

And so basically like we started talking about from the very beginning of this episode like what are some ways that we can work in harmony with our circadian biology and with our biology to support the immune system naturally and to support hormone health naturally and just to optimize every factor. So, those are a couple I’m doing. I’m also making sure we all take obviously probiotics and IgG and then also vitamin D and vitamin C and get movement every day. How has your routine changed since we have all become homebound?

Tina: Yeah. I wanna piggyback on that fasting because I really am so glad you mentioned that because that…I recently over the last year or so I’ve been practicing intermittent fasting, and I cannot stress how important that is enough right now because we know…from the leaky gut study that we did, it showed us that every time we eat, it causes…especially if we have a leaky gut, which a lot of people…they’re estimating 80% of the adult population has a leaky gut. It causes this inflammatory response. I mean, of course, we all have to eat. So I’m not suggesting that we don’t eat, but I think limiting the time is really, really critical to be supporting our immune system because we don’t want that inflammatory response on a regular basis. And we wanna make sure we’re tightening up the gut barrier and all of that and the leakiness of the gut.

But I agree with the fasting. I agree with getting outside like we talked about. And the breathwork with the sleep is so important. I’m so glad you brought that up because I was just on another podcast the other day, and I kept talking about how important that is. And I think it’s really hard right now with the kids not being on a regular schedule to allow them to sleep in, and yet that’s probably one of the worst things that we…

We want them to get enough sleep, but we don’t want them to be messing around with their circadian rhythm and their sleep cycles that they’re accustomed to because that’s not really great for their immune system either. So, I would definitely agree with you on that about the sleep for sure. I’ve been working out like crazy, too.

Just the sweating alone is just I think really important doing a lot of working out. I don’t think like really hard, hard strenuous workout is good either because that could cause too much stress on the body, too. You know, working out and getting a sweat going I think is really important, and like I mentioned, the breathwork.

I mean, I agree we need to stay away from sugar, and I’ve been really trying to do that as well. It’s really hard right now with the kids because they’re home, and it’s like, “Oh, let’s treat ourselves,” and trying to stay away from alcohol, but I’m always so grateful for Dry Farm Wines that they don’t have sugar in their wines. So, during this time it’s been really nice. I’m like, “Make sure we don’t run out of our Dry Farm Wines,” and I know you’re a big fan, too.

Katie: Yeah. Definitely shout out to Todd, and also just they have been a light and an inspiration during this whole thing as well. Even separate of the wine, I know the emails I’m getting from them they’re…even though they can’t all come together as a team, they’re doing group meditation and grateful practice every single day via the internet via Zoom, and they’re still making that a priority. And they have even been like letting other people join them and just trying to encourage everyone to keep the focus on gratitude even during the hard time. And thankfully, they were declared an essential activity, and so mine is still available. I think a lot of moms right now might agree that wine is an essential.

Tina: Yes. Exactly. And thank God for Dry Farm, exactly. And then, obviously, I’ve been taking lots of vitamin C. So, that’s been great, and of course, I love Paleovalley vitamin C. I think you’re a fan, too, so just lots of great…there’s so many great things out there that could help us just get through this time for sure, so many great supplements, so many great tools that you just talked about. I think we’re very fortunate to have all those tools in our toolbox.

Katie: I agree, and I’ll make sure, like I said, that everything is linked in the show notes, and if you guys are listening, I’ll also put swipe up links to these things on Instagram, so you can find them.

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You know, you listen to the press briefings, the White House press briefings, and you always hear the doctors talking about the IgG and your IgM and your IgG, and so I think people are starting to understand, “Wait, I need to pay attention to what IgGs do in the body.” So, yeah, that’s been selling like crazy. So, right now we do. So hopefully, it’ll stay that way so we could get it out to as many people as possible. We actually did start putting a limit on orders because we just don’t want to have a hoarding situation either because that was happening in the beginning, too.

Katie: Got it. ہاں And that’s another thing to speak to from, like just the mom side through all this is I know there’s all kinds of encouragement online to please not hoard and only take what we actually need right now but just to reiterate that and also to be supportive. I know like I’ve been texting people that live near us and just checking in like, “Do you guys need anything? Can I leave anything on your porch?” You know, like I think that aspect of community is really important as things do stock out, which is really sad to see, and especially I know there’s even some elderly people in our area that weren’t able to get things like toilet paper because people were hoarding it. And so I also just encourage people like check in. I know we can’t like physically check in, but check in with people near you and see how you can support and build community. And I think like if we all focus on that. Hopefully, this thing will end soon, but if not, we’re all gonna get through it better than we entered hopefully.

Tina: Absolutely. And, yes, that’s I think another…I’m glad you brought that up, too. Just helping everybody in the neighborhood and community has been great, and I think it’s been great for the kids, too. And I think that’s another great thing to do for the kids is getting them involved in that, and maybe riding their bikes and bringing over a couple rolls of toilet paper to the elderly and other people in the community that are immunocompromised and shouldn’t be going to the store at all either.

So, I agree. Another gift is to show the kids how to give back because I think kids are so focused on their activities, and we have to go to this practice and this practice, and we’ve got homework and do this. It’s like this is a time to allow them to give back more than they maybe had time to otherwise.

Katie: Yeah, such a good perspective. ٹھیک ہے. So on a practical level just dosage wise. I know that neither of us are doctors, and we’re not trying to give medical advice. Although, for anyone listening, I know telemedicine is what they’re saying is the option right now. Like, don’t go anywhere unless you absolutely have to medically. So I will put a link to SteadyMD, which is my form of concierge telemedicine that I use with our family. So, if you do need to talk to a medical professional, I’ll put that link in the show notes at But without giving medical advice, Tina, I’m curious, like just walk us through what dosing you’re taking of all the different products right now to support your immune system.

Tina: Okay. ضرور So the probiotic I take normally I would take one a day. During this time, I’m taking two a day, and when we say two a day, I take two at the same time, and you always take it after a meal. That’s what I always do. But, you know, one or two a day is so, so important, and even if you took a half of the capsule every day or one capsule every other day, you are in such a better shape than somebody that’s not getting these spores in them. So I would definitely recommend doing that.

The IgG is probably my next priority. I take four of those a day. The normal dosage is four a day. The only reason I have my parents, my in-laws taking more than that because I just really wanna make sure that they are totally supported because they are saying it’s affecting the elderly a little bit more. Not that I consider any of them elderly because they feel so young, but they meet the age criteria, so four a day for most people.

You could take up to 10 a day because the study that was done on the ingredients actually was 5 grams, 4 capsules of our product is 2 grams. So anyway, you could take up to 10 capsules, but I usually take 4 a day. I take a scoop full of our prebiotic. Of course, the prebiotic is so, so important because it’s helping feed our good bacteria in our gut. So, I do that.

And then I take vitamin C. I take like four or five of the Paleovalley vitamin C. I’m taking about 30,000 IUs of the vitamin D but mostly trying to get outside trying to do that. What else am I doing for… I have so many supplements, Katie. You could only imagine, and, of course, our vitamin K2 I’m taking. Because when you’re taking vitamin D, you need to take the vitamin K2.

Oh, our Gluten Away product. That’s the other thing, Gluten Away. I mean, we don’t need to get into that. We could do a whole other episode. But that’s really important because when we’re eating gluten, there’s a study that show that everyone that eats gluten, even if you don’t have any outward symptoms of gluten intolerance, it is still showing this inflammatory response. So, I’m trying to take gluten away before I eat so it could help protect a little bit of that. It’s not a replacement for a gluten-free diet and that we could talk about that later. Mostly the probiotic, the IgG are a number one priority, our prebiotic K2 vitamin. And then vitamin C is also probably number three priority and vitamin D. That’s about it. I know I’m taking more, but I can’t really remember them all.

Katie: Yeah. I’m in a very similar protocol, and I’ll type that out and put it in the show notes so you guys can find all of those things directly. But I think as we like get close to wrapping up, it’s important to reiterate where we started, which is like do all of these things physically to support yourself and your immune system and get sleep and sweat and take supplements. But also at the end of the day, mindset is huge as well, especially for either moms listening, like our mindset so often affects the whole family. It like kind of has a ripple effect, and so to the degree that we can stay positive and grateful and all of those things, that will help our kids navigate this as well, and just to focus on the blessings that are hidden in this in the family time and the ability to for those of us who are home have more time to focus on things and projects and stuff that we’ve been waiting to do.

Tina: Yeah. I could not agree more. The mindset is so important, Katie. And the one thing I forgot to mention is affirmations and just saying that. You know, being careful, like you said, with your words, the words that you use but saying things like, “I am perfect health. I am health. I am in perfect health or I am healthy,” or whatever it is that you wanna say, but saying those things out loud. And it’s not that they miraculously happen. It’s that you’re putting that out there to the world, and then you make choices that will support a healthy lifestyle. So I think, you know, saying affirmations and having that positive mindset is so, so critical to your immune health, is so critical.

Katie: I agree. And like I said, links to everything will be in the show notes at So if you guys are hopefully maybe in the sunshine exercising while you’re listening to this, you can find all of the links there. And you guys leave comments in the show notes, and both of us will answer questions. I know we both wanna be to whatever degree we can be remotely a source of support for any of you guys, and I think the community is so, so important right now. And I’m so grateful for the “Wellness Mama” community and, Tina, for you and for your family and for everyone spreading positivity and being a source of support right now.

Tina: Well, thank you, Katie. I’m so grateful for you and for the platform that you have for people and listeners. You are an amazing human being. So thank you.

Katie: Well, thank you. And thanks to all of you for listening, for sharing your most valuable asset, your time with us today. We’re both so grateful that you were here, and I hope that you will join me again on the next episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” And I hope that soon it will be with all of us not in isolation, but stay positive and stay grateful and stay well.

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