Root Canals, Wisdom Teeth, & Remineralization With Dr. Kelly Blodgett

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This event is one of my favorite research topics, which is oral health. And so, we go deeper into certain topics within it. I’m here with Dr. Kelly Bloodjet, a recognized leader in comprehensive integrated biological dentistry. He is also a teacher and he talks about these things online. She has an educational background in psychology, traditional dentistry, and natural medicine dentistry, as well as an integrated biological dental medicine. He understands the interrelationship of oral health with the health of the whole body and respects it. And he practices dentistry in Portland, where he helps people directly and he also teaches, as I said, online. And I’m going to post a link to a lot of the resources he talks about and suggests, as well as ways to stay in touch on in the notes.

Specifically, in this episode, we talk in depth about root canals, tooth decay, dental implants, gum disease, and more. And he has a really interesting, educated, integrated approach to dealing with these issues. And I think some of the answers may surprise you, especially when it comes to tooth removal. I had a great time recording this interview, learned a lot, and I think you will too. So, let’s jump. Dr. Kelly, welcome. Thanks so much for coming here.

Dr. Kelly: Thank you. Katie, I’m so excited to be with you today.

Katie: I’m so excited to have you here. I think this is such an important title, even more important to people who realize. We all know that oral health is important, but at least for my research, it’s more than our mouths. And there is a kind of rollover effect, in many ways, on the whole body. And I would say that oral health is actually one of my earliest springboards in health and fitness. When I found out I had a small cavity during my pregnancy, and because of that I’m researching that I didn’t want to do anything during my pregnancy, and then I also want to know what the next jewelry is. Is there a way to avoid or improve my oral health, and this has led to an amazing world of research for which I am very grateful. And it’s still a topic I love to explore. And when I found you and your bio, I knew I needed to talk about these areas after the last podcast discussion about oral health. So I can’t wait to go too deep into it. To begin with, I would like to talk about chronic mouth infections. And it can make a dent in things like root canals. But to start broad, people run us through some of the common infections found in the mouth and how rollover effects can affect the rest of the body.

Dr. Kelly: Absolutely. Of course yes, I mean, I think, you know, when we think about things that people are usually accustomed to hearing about, like, you know, they’re in the office. Come, and they want to know, is there a hole in them? Okay fine? Well, you know, this thinking is like, like, going symbolic and not really considering why you would develop them in the first place or why you would have gum disease. Or what is the long-term effect of having root canal teeth? In your mouth, for example, right? So the things that we know in practice, people that are usually affected by it are definitely gum disease, right? It is one of the most popular means of treating chronic infection in a person’s body as well as root canal teeth. I was not taught in dental school about the long-term infectious nature of root canals, but it is something we have recognized in practice that is a very important cause of infectious and energizing anxiety for many people. Is the source. And the other thing I’ve learned over the last few years is what is called oral cavitation. So, like, we hear the term cavities when referring to teeth, cavities refer to your jaw bones that do not heal after tooth extraction and often become infected during this initial treatment phase. And once the gums get close to the top of the affected bone, it gets stuck in the face of your bone. Therefore, the gums, root canals, and cavities are an important issue that we recognize in our practice. And unfortunately, for many people the frequency is too high.

Katie: Yeah, it sounds like that, and I get this question a lot, people who are told they need a root canal, and who start looking for options, and there’s a lot of conflicting information. And for them it is difficult to make a decision. So I’m curious, I know that after reading about you, you say that you have concerns about performing root canals. What advice would you give to a patient who is told they need a root canal? Are there other options and how can they figure out what is the best way to do it?

Dr. Kelly: That’s a big question. So, I want to explain the nature of the question myself and myself, you know, we hear the term you need and then you do it in the space, right? You need a crown. You need to fill out. You need a root canal. And really, it’s not necessary, is it? No one needs a root canal. This is an option you can consider and it is a way to keep your teeth in your mouth, but it is ready to fully disclose and understand what to do with a dead limb attached to my jaw. Are there risks? In one of those people who didn’t go through my Instagram post, my “Toxic Tuesday” series, I explained how teeth are permanently affected after root canal, you know that The root system is completely insecure like a sponge, and it is only able to repel bacteria over time. So, you know, I think it’s appropriate for people to decide to go ahead with this type of therapy, root canal therapy, so that they understand that they have a lot of infectious diseases in their future. There is more danger. And it can happen in a year. It could happen in 10 years. You know, we don’t really know, but it’s definitely a threat, in terms of infection and energy. And we can talk about something, you know, like the energetic meridians after today, but it’s also a very important thing to consider because, you know, your teeth can have a root canal. Yes and your teeth feel fine, but you start experimenting. Symptoms elsewhere in your body. Like, just this morning, I was talking to a young woman who lost her front two teeth five years ago after her slip and fall accident and toothache.

Both teeth were on the active meridians of her bladder, uterus and kidneys. And soon after her accident, she began experiencing endometriosis and chronic UTIs. And of course, you know, he didn’t think to ask his dentist, you know, if his teeth are attached to him because you don’t think about it when you have a stomach ache. Are But it’s just so interesting. So now we are entering the stage of caring for her to clear her of chronic infections in her mouth, all of which are energetic meridians where she is experiencing systemic effects. So, what would I say to these people when they hear their dentists say, “You need a root canal,” the first thing I would suggest is, you know, ask, “What?” Is that my only option? ” Okay fine? If they say yes, I would be encouraged to get a second opinion. Because there are definitely multiple options, right? You could pull out a tooth. I mean, it’s always an option. and of course. You know, even downhill to lose teeth. But you know, an individual should be able to consider all of their options, not just their healthcare provider.

Katie: I totally agree with that. And I’m glad to hear that from the healthcare provider. I have always said that the best results come when you have an educated, highly invested patient and an educated highly invested doctor or practitioner because together; like, by a practitioner You need a patient and they work. Home, and 99% of the time when they are not in your office. So, both. And I love when there are people like you who are very much in the mindset of this partnership about working with the patient and just telling them. I’m also a big fan of other opinions or, you know, being educated as a patient and understanding whatever procedure you have to keep in mind. So, as a follow-up, what are some of the long-term effects you’ve seen of root canals? It simply means that there is still a dead organ in your mouth. And I know it’s based on the vascular system, as it can connect to many other parts of your body. And you mentioned the exciting side of it, what are some of the long-term effects you can see from someone’s root canal?

Dr. Kelly: All right. So yes, if we consider these two effects or connections then maybe the better term is the two connections, well, we have a cardiovascular system that is connected to each tooth by lymphatics that pulls them out, right? So your lymph jumps into your blood supply and, you know, if it’s infected with a chronic disease, your liver is about to expel it. It circulates in your blood supply again, and it circulates throughout your body. So that in itself can be a very important issue. And of course, when you think of dentistry, we have, you know, respected it for decades, but only in special cases, right? For example, if someone has a joint replacement or heart valve replacement, you know, their doctor recommends the American Heart Association. You know, make sure you take antibiotics an hour before you clean your teeth because even brushing your teeth can cause a person to have a lot of bacteremia so that they have a new joint or heart valve. Can cause infection. Okay fine? So we’ve known it for years. And again, these would mean that you have to spend for these processes. If we understand and appreciate the flow of energy from each tooth, we would be wise to consult and look at the meridian dental chart, as if someone were coming, and they were saying, “You You know, Katie, I’ve been worried about chronic GI since last year. You know, we can see, okay, okay, which teeth are connected to the abdomen meridian? There was a post about that some time ago. It’s like the majority of your teeth, clean, you know.

So for someone who had a root canal in almost every single tooth in their mouth, it could be in contact with the GI track, or if it was theirs, you know, a thyroid gland, for example, You know, we want to assess the upper stains because we know that the thyroid gland is connected to these teeth. The things I’ve seen have been; I mean, it’s basically a symptom you can imagine, whether you know it, chronic skin condition, or chronic indigestion, or constipation or , Or you know, you name it. Or as I said, to the girl I was talking to about endometriosis and UTI this morning, you know, we want to go back; and then, it’s possible, with her teeth. It doesn’t matter, but we are not giving up. Consider these dental contacts and what can happen there. And unfortunately, as you well know, root canals are very common in our daily lives, I mean, there are over 15 million root canals in the United States each year. That’s a lot of potential barriers and infections, right? So we have to look at the face. It is connected to the rest of our body, which is no different from any other part of our body.

Katie: It makes so much sense. Well, a lot of people question that. You mentioned that tooth extraction is always an option. And I know that many of my readers and listeners have researched and, after understanding a little bit about the dangers of both, have chosen it over the root canal. What about its hybrid measures if someone has had a tooth removed? I know that now there are options for implants and all sorts of other things that will at least make it so that the tooth is still there. What are your thoughts

Dr. Kelly: Yeah, that’s amazing. You know, the truth is, there are a lot of options. And, you know, the idea that, well, if you lose a tooth, you have to get an implant, you know, that’s the only option. میں ایک قسم کی ذہنیت رکھتا ہوں جب تک کہ ہم یہ نہ سمجھ لیں کہ ہم نے اس ہڈی کی توانائی کو متوازن کردیا ہے اور یہ انفیکشن سے پاک ہے اور کسی ایمپلانٹ کو قبول کرنے پر راضی ہوجاتا ہے تب اس امپلانٹ کا کوئی معنی نہیں ہوتا ہے۔ وہ دانتوں کو تبدیل کرنے کا ایک بہت اچھا طریقہ ہوسکتے ہیں ، مجھے غلط نہ بنائیں ، لیکن ، آپ جانتے ہیں کہ ، آپ کو معلوم ہے کہ ، ہٹانے کے قابل سامان موجود ہیں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، بندھے ہوئے پل ، جہاں آپ دانتوں کو دوسرے دانتوں میں شامل کرنے کے لئے فائبر گلاس کمک ٹیپ کا استعمال کرسکتے ہیں۔ . بہت سے اختیارات ہیں کیونکہ آپ کا دماغ تخلیقی ہے اور اس کے بارے میں سوچ رہا ہے۔ لہذا ، ہمارے عمل میں ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، ہمارے پاس اس طرح کی فکرمند صحت کی دیکھ بھال کی ذہن سازی کے ساتھ ساتھ تکنیکی جدت کی حیرت انگیز ہم آہنگی ہے۔ لہذا ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، ہمارے پاس بہت زیادہ تخلیقی صلاحیت موجود ہے۔ لیکن ہاں ، میرا مطلب ہے ، میں سامنے کے اختتام پر تجویز کروں گا ، ٹھیک ہے ، جب کوئی روٹ نہر یا کوئی جڑ نہر پر غور کر رہا ہے ، اور ہم کہتے ہیں ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، آپ کے دماغ میں اور آپ کی تحقیق پر مبنی ، آپ پہلے ہی ایسا محسوس کر رہے ہیں ، “ہاں ، میں واقعی میں جبڑے کی ہڈی کے ساتھ ایک مردہ ، متاثرہ عضو کو جوڑنا نہیں چاہتا ہوں ، آپ جانتے ہو ، پھر اپنے دانتوں کے ڈاکٹر سے پوچھیں ،” دانتوں کی جگہ لینے کے ل me میرے پاس کیا اختیارات ہوسکتے ہیں؟ اور ان میں سے ہر ایک کے اچھ ؟ے اور مواقع کیا ہیں؟ آپ جانتے ہو ، واقعی ایک سوچنے والی ٹیم ، جسے آپ دانتوں کے بیشتر اچھے طریقوں سے تلاش کریں گے ، وہ آپ کو بتانے کے لئے وقت نکالیں گے ، “ٹھیک ہے ، آپ اس راستے پر جا سکتے ہیں ، یہاں پیشہ و اتفاق ہے۔ آپ اس راستے پر جاسکتے ہیں ، اور یہاں اس کے فوائد اور نقائص موجود ہیں ، “ٹھیک ہے ، اس طرح آپ باخبر فیصلہ کرسکتے ہیں جو آپ کے ویلیو سسٹم سے مطابقت رکھتا ہے کیونکہ میرا عقیدہ نظام یہ ہے کہ میں یہاں انسان کی خدمت کے لئے انسان کی خدمت کروں گا۔ ان کا اپنا ویلیو سسٹم۔ میں اپنی اقدار کو کسی اور سے دور نہیں کروں گا۔ ٹھیک ہے؟ لہذا ، اسی وجہ سے ہمیں کھلی گفتگو کرنا پڑے گی ، میرا مطلب ہے ، آپ کی طرح کی قسم اور میں آج بھی ہوں۔

کیٹی: بالکل۔ ٹھیک ہے. لہذا ، ہر ایک کو یہ سننے کے ل maybe کہ کون ہو سکتا ہے کہ اس کو سمجھنے یا ممکنہ پریشانیوں کو جوڑ رہا ہو ، یا ابھی تک ممکنہ جڑ کی نہر کے بارے میں فکر مند ہو جو ابھی تک ان کے منہ میں ہے ، مجھے کوئی دلچسپی ہے اگر کوئی نقطہ نظر موجود ہے۔ ہم اسے کیسے کالعدم کرتے ہیں؟ لہذا میں نے نہیں کیا ، لیکن اگر میرے پاس ماضی میں جڑ کی نہر ہوتی اور پھر میرے منہ میں یا پھر آپ کو یہ سن رہا ہے کہ جسم میں کہیں اور بھی جڑ سکتا ہے تو ، وہاں کسی طرح کا طریقہ ہے نقصان کو کالعدم کریں اور جسم کو ٹھیک کرنے میں مدد کریں؟ کیا وہاں یہ پتہ لگانے کا کوئی طریقہ ہے کہ آیا وہاں کوئی فعال انفیکشن ہے ، اور اس کا علاج کر رہا ہے ، اور اس کے ذریعے جسم کی تائید کرتے ہیں یا جب آپ مریض کسی پرانی جڑ کی نہر کے ساتھ آپ میں گھس جاتے ہیں تو آپ کیا کرتے ہیں؟

ڈاکٹر کیلی: ضرور۔ ضرور لہذا ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، میرے تجربے نے مجھے یہ سمجھنے کی طرف راغب کیا کہ اگر کسی شخص کے دانتوں میں جڑ کی نہر ہے تو ، یہ بیکٹیریا سے بھرا ہوا ہوگا۔ پچھلے کچھ سالوں میں ، جب میں نے ڈی این اے کنیکشنز نامی لیب میں بھیج دیا ہے ، میں نے اب تک 150 سے زیادہ دانتوں کا اچھی طرح سے تجربہ کیا ہے ، مجھے ابھی تک ایسا کوئی پتہ نہیں ملا ہے جو بیکٹیریا ، پرجیویوں ، وائرسوں اور دیگر چیزوں سے نہیں مل رہا تھا۔ اور ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، یقینا helpful یہ مددگار کے ساتھ اتفاق نہیں ہوگا۔ تو ، ہمیں کچھ تعدد کے ساتھ یہ تبصرہ ملتا ہے کہ “ٹھیک ہے ، تم جانتے ہو ، مجھے کوئی علامت نہیں ہے یا میرے دانت تکلیف نہیں پہنچتے ہیں” ، لیکن پھر بھی وہ ہمیں دیکھ رہے ہیں کیونکہ ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، وہ ہاشموٹو کا شکار ہیں۔ آپ کو معلوم ہے معدے کی پریشانیوں کا سامنا کرنا پڑتا ہے۔ تو ، وہ اکثر ہمارے علامات کی علامت رہتے ہیں ، یہ صرف کچھ نہیں ہے کہ ابھی تک وہ ان کے منہ سے جڑے ہوئے ہیں ، ٹھیک ہے؟ اور ایک چیز جو ہم نے اپنے تشخیصی عمل کے ضمن میں شامل کرنا شروع کی ہے ، وہ آپ کو معلوم ہے کہ ہم متعدد قدرتی علاج فراہم کرنے والے اور ایم ڈی کے ساتھ کام کرتے ہیں جو زیادہ فعال دواؤں کے ڈاکٹر ہیں جو توانائی کے قابل جانچ کے تصورات سے واقف ہیں ، چاہے وہ ہو پٹھوں کی جانچ یا EAV ٹیسٹنگ کی شکل میں ، جہاں ہم ان میریڈیئنز کے ذریعے جسم کی توانائی اور توانائی کے بہاؤ کا اندازہ کرسکتے ہیں جہاں دانت جڑوں کی نہریں ہیں۔ یا یہ وہ علاقہ ہوسکتا ہے جہاں انہیں شک تھا ، آپ جانتے ہو ، جبڑے کی ہڈی میں ایک کاواتشن۔ اور ، آپ جانتے ہو ، دوسرے خیال رکھنے والے صحت کی دیکھ بھال فراہم کرنے والوں کے ساتھ مل کر کام کرنے سے ، ہم ان کے جسم میں کیا ہو رہا ہے اس کی توانائی کے بارے میں صرف بہتر معلومات ، بہتر معیار کی معلومات حاصل کرنے میں کامیاب ہوگئے ہیں کیونکہ ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، میرا مطلب ہے ، ہم ہیں دانتوں کے ڈاکٹر کے پاس جانے سے سب واقف ہیں۔ دانتوں کا ڈاکٹر ہمیں ہماری ایکس رے دکھائے گا ، آپ جانتے ہو ، امید ہے کہ ، ان دنوں وہ ڈیجیٹل ہیں لیکن کچھ اب بھی نہیں ہیں۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، لیکن کسی بھی طرح سے ، آپ اس کالی اور سفید چیز کو دیکھ رہے ہیں۔

اور ، آپ جانتے ہو ، دانتوں کا ڈاکٹر کہتا ہے ، “ٹھیک ہے ، تم جانتے ہو ، ہم کچھ بھی عجیب نہیں دیکھتے ہیں۔” ٹھیک ہے ، توانائی دیکھنا مشکل ہے ، ٹھیک ہے؟ لہذا اگر ہم تجزیہ کرسکتے ہیں کہ دہائیوں پرانی ٹیکنالوجیز کا استعمال کرتے ہوئے جو بہت پیشن گوئ اور مستقل ہیں ، تو ہم جسم کی نوعیت کے بارے میں زیادہ سے زیادہ سمجھ سکتے ہیں۔ اور میں یہ بھی شامل کروں گا کہ ، تشخیص کا ایک اور متحرک وسیلہ اورکت تھرموگرافی ہوگا۔ ہمارے یہاں پورٹ لینڈ ، اوریگون میں ایک تھرموگرافر موجود ہے جس کا ہم اکثر حوالہ دیتے ہیں کیونکہ بعض اوقات یہ مددگار ثابت ہوتا ہے۔ اور یہ ساری چیزیں مکمل طور پر غیر ناگوار ہیں ، جس سے مجھے پیار ہے کیونکہ ، آپ جانتے ہو ، لوگ ان کی نمائش کو کم کرنا نہیں چاہتے ہیں ، ایکس رے جیسی چیزیں ، جو بالکل معقول ہیں۔ لہذا اگر ہم لوگوں کے جسمانی توانائی کا اندازہ لگانے کے ان دیگر ذرائع میں شامل کرسکتے ہیں تو ، میں سمجھتا ہوں کہ یہ بہت مددگار ثابت ہوگا۔ اور یہ ہے.

کیٹی: یہ دلکشی ہے ، اور یہ جاننا بہت اچھا ہے کہ اس طرح کے اوزار موجود ہیں ، جو ہمیں ان چیزوں کا پتہ لگانے میں مدد کرسکتے ہیں۔ ٹھیک ہے. مجھے لگتا ہے کہ یہ اوورپلاپ ہو رہے ہیں ، اور میں کچھ سوالوں کے پیچھے دائر ہوجاتا ہوں۔ لیکن ایک اور شعبہ جس کو میں محسوس کرتا ہوں وہ دانتوں کے جدید دانتوں کو ہٹانے کا خیال ہے۔ در حقیقت ، یہ وہی کچھ تھا جو میرے ساتھ دسویں جماعت میں ہوا تھا۔ مجھے یہ احساس تک نہیں تھا کہ یہ حتی اختیاری ہے۔ اور آپ کے کچھ کاموں کو پڑھنے سے ، ایسا لگتا ہے کہ اصل میں کچھ خطرات ہیں جو اس کے ساتھ ساتھ آتے ہیں۔ ہمارے بہت سے سننے والے ماں ہیں۔ لہذا ، کیا آپ دانشمندانہ دانتوں کی بات کرتے ہوئے ہمیں اصل جائزہ کیا ہے اور ہمیں کیا جاننے کی ضرورت ہے ، اس کا جائزہ ہمیں دے سکتے ہیں ، خاص طور پر اگر ہمارے ایسے بچے ہیں جن کی عمر اس عمر میں ہے جہاں یہ تجویز کیا جارہا ہے کہ وہ دانش دانت نکال دیں۔

ڈاکٹر کیلی: ٹھیک ہے۔ ہاں ، میرا مطلب ہے ، مجھے یہ تقریبا almost معاشرتی نقطہ نظر سے ملتا ہے ، ایسا دلچسپ مسئلہ جو آپ کو معلوم ہے ، منحنی خطوط وحدانی کی طرح ، دانت دانتوں کو ہٹانا ، وہ صرف یہ عام سماجی چیزیں ہیں ، جیسے پروم میں جانا۔ ٹھیک ہے؟ جیسے ، ٹھیک ہے ، جب آپ اپنے منحنی خطوط وحدانی حاصل کر رہے ہیں جب آپ اپنے دانش دانتوں کو ختم کر رہے ہیں؟ اور یہ کہنا نہیں ہے کہ ، دانتوں اور جبڑوں کو سیدھے کرنے کے جو حیرت انگیز فوائد ہیں جو دانتوں اور دانتوں کے معاملات میں اچھی طرح سے سیدھے ہوجاتے ہیں ، یہ آپ کو معلوم ہے ، یقینی طور پر ایسے حالات موجود ہیں جن میں آپ جانتے ہو ، اس کا خطرہ ہے۔ دانت رکھنا اہم ہے اور یہ دانت رکھنے کے فوائد سے بھی زیادہ ہے۔ اور ان معاملات میں ، آپ شرط لگاتے ہیں ، ان سے چھٹکارا پانا بالکل سمجھ میں آتا ہے۔ تاہم ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، ہمیں اس کے بارے میں بھی ذہن نشین کرنے کی ضرورت ہے کہ اس علاقے میں ہڈی اور مسوڑھوں کی بافتوں کی بحالی کیسے صحیح طریقے سے ہو رہی ہے۔ کیوں کہ اگر ہمارے ساتھ ایسی حالت باقی رہ گئی ہے جو آپ نے شروع کردی تھی اس سے کہیں زیادہ متعدی بیماری ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو کہ یہ ایک اصل بہت بڑا مسئلہ ہے۔ لہذا ، میں پہلے یہ مشورہ دوں گا کہ لوگ ، آپ جانتے ہو ، یہ سوال پوچھیں ، “ٹھیک ہے ، کیوں؟” ٹھیک ہے ، میں نے سمجھا کہ یہ ایک معاشرتی معمول ہے کہ ہم سب… آپ کو معلوم ہے ، ہمیں بتایا گیا ہے ، “اوہ ، وقت آگیا ہے کہ آپ کی دانشمندی کو نکالا جائے۔” کیا آپ مجھے یہ سمجھنے میں مدد کرسکتے ہیں کہ اس حقیقت کے علاوہ بھی لوگ عام طور پر جاتے ہیں اور کرتے ہیں؟ میرے لئے ایسا کرنے سے کیا فائدہ ہے؟ میرا مطلب ہے ، شاید اس کی ایک وجہ یہ ہے کہ ہمارے پاس جبڑے کی ہڈیوں میں وہ سب سے پہلے ہیں ، ٹھیک ہے؟ اور ہم یہ اپنے مریضوں کے ل find پاتے ہیں ، جہاں وہ بڑے صحت مند غذا کھاتے ہوئے عام طور پر بولتے ہیں ، اگر وہ ہوتے… اگر ہم ویسٹن پرائس کے کام پر نگاہ ڈالیں تو ، آپ کو معلوم ہوگا ، اس نے لوگوں کو دکھایا ، جن بچوں کو دودھ پلایا گیا تھا ، وہ تھے توسیع جبڑے تیار کرنے کے قابل. آپ جانتے ہو ، وہ ، عام طور پر بول رہے تھے ، تمام 32 دانتوں کے ل room گنجائش رکھتے تھے۔ اور یقینا؟ ، ہمارے معاشرے میں ، یہ نہ ہونا بہت عام ہے ، ٹھیک ہے؟

لہذا یہاں بہت ساری چیزیں پیدائش سے شروع ہوتی ہیں ، جو ماحول یا جسمانی نظام کی سہولت فراہم کرسکتی ہیں ، واقعی ، یہ ان دانتوں کو رکھنے کے لئے موزوں ہوگا۔ تو ، سب سے بڑا خطرہ ، جیسے کہ ہم کاویٹیشن کے خطرے کے بارے میں بات کر رہے تھے ، ٹھیک ہے؟ لہذا اگر آپ ان دانتوں کو ہٹاتے ہیں تو ، اس سے ہڈیوں کے جال مل جاتے ہیں ، یا تو کھانے کے ذرات مل جاتے ہیں یا پتہ چل جاتا ہے ، آپ کو پتہ ہے ، تختی ، اور بیکٹیریا ، اور اس سے زیادہ ہر طرح کی چیزیں ، ایک مہینہ کے وقت کہتے ہیں کہ نرم ٹشوز اوپر سے بند ہوجاتے ہیں۔ ، جو اندر پھنس جاتا ہے ، آپ کا جسم آپ کی حفاظت کرنے کی کوشش کر رہا ہے اور اسے دیوار سے دور کردیتا ہے۔ لیکن بالکل اسی طرح جیسے آپ کے جبڑے کے ہڈی میں جڑوں کی نہر کے دانت ، اس طرح سے متعدی امراض کا وہ علاقہ اب تک باقی رہے گا جب تک کہ اسے حذف نہ کیا جائے۔ اور مجھے آپ کو بتانا ہوگا ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، جب تک کہ میں لوگوں کی مدد سے کچھ سال پہلے ان کو ہٹانے میں مدد نہیں کرنا چاہتا تھا ، ایک ، یہ ڈینٹل اسکول کے بارے میں ہمیں کچھ نہیں سکھایا جاتا تھا۔ اور دو ، مجھے ان چیزوں سے اڑا دیا گیا ہے جو مجھے لوگوں کے جبڑے کی ہڈیوں کے اندر ملتے ہیں۔ یہ بہت ڈراونا ہے اور ان میں سے کچھ جو میں پوسٹ کرتا ہوں ، ٹھیک ہے؟ میرا مطلب ہے ، میں اپنے انسٹاگرام “زہریلا منگل” سیریز میں زیادہ خام ہونا پسند نہیں کرتا ، لیکن میرے خیال میں لوگوں کے لئے یہ ضروری ہے کہ وہ جس طرح کی چیزوں کو دیکھتے ہیں کیونکہ اگر ہم سب نے اسی معلومات کو سراہا تو ہم ہو جائیں گے۔ بہتر انتخاب کرنے کے قابل ، ٹھیک ہے؟

کیٹی: بالکل۔ ہاں ، مجھے لگتا ہے کہ آپ بالکل ٹھیک ہیں۔ اور میں کہوں گا کہ میں اس بات کو یقینی بناتا ہوں کہ شو نوٹوں میں آپ کے سوشل میڈیا اکاؤنٹس کا ایک لنک ہے تاکہ لوگ دیکھ سکیں کہ آپ کس کے بارے میں بات کر رہے ہیں۔ مجھے یہ جاننا بھی دلچسپ ہے کہ اگر یہاں مسو بیماری سے دوچار ہے تو کیوں کہ میں اس بات کو یقینی بنانا چاہتا ہوں کہ میں اس کو صحیح طور پر سمجھتا ہوں ، لیکن میں نے اس سے پہلے بھی دندان سازی کی وضاحت سنی ہے۔ جب مسوڑوں کی بیماری اور کھجوروں کی بات آتی ہے تو منہ میں تقریبا ایک توازن موجود ہوتا ہے ، اور یہ ، جیسے ہمارے پاس زبانی مائکرو بائوم ہوتا ہے ، لہذا بہت سارے قسم کے بیکٹیریا کو مار ڈالنا واقعی ہمیں گہاوں کے ل risk زیادہ خطرہ چھوڑ سکتا ہے ، مثال کے طور پر۔ جیسا کہ ، آپ جانتے ہو کہ ، مسوڑوں کی بیماری سے لڑنے کے لئے صاف ستھری چیزیں ، ہم در حقیقت گہاوں یا اس کے برعکس ایک خطرہ کھول سکتے ہیں۔ تو کیا آپ اس طرح کے مسوڑوں کی مساوات کی وضاحت کرسکتے ہیں اور اس میں یہ کس طرح فٹ بیٹھتا ہے؟

ڈاکٹر کیلی: ہاں ، بالکل اور یہ بھی دلچسپ بات ہے کیونکہ جیسا کہ ہم مسوڑوں کی بیماری کے بارے میں بات کرتے ہیں ، یہ منہ میں یہ پہچانا جانے والا متعدی مسئلہ ہے جسے دندان سازی اور دوائیوں کے ذریعہ بہت زیادہ توجہ دی گئی ہے ، ٹھیک ہے ، کیونکہ ہم منہ میں دائمی انفیکشن کو سمجھتے ہیں ، بالکل ، یہ ہمارے خون کے دھارے میں جذب ہوتا ہے اور ہمیں خطرے میں ڈالتا ہے۔ ڈاکٹر بریڈ بیل کی کتاب “دھڑکتے ہوئے ہارٹ اٹیک جین” نے یہ بیان کرنے کا ایک حیرت انگیز کام کیا کہ ایسا کیسے ہوتا ہے۔ میرا مطلب ہے کہ ، انہوں نے حقیقت میں نہ صرف جڑنے کا سبب ب showedایا ، بلکہ دائمی مسو بیماری اور فالج ، ہارٹ اٹیک ، اور دیگر سوزش کی بیماریوں جیسے امراض کے مابین کی وجہ قرار دیا ہے۔ لہذا ، ہم جانتے ہیں کہ یہ ایک مسئلہ ہے۔ اور آپ بایوفلموں کی مسابقتی نوعیت کے بارے میں اتنا عمدہ نقطہ سامنے لاتے ہیں۔ لہذا ، کسی موقع پر ، ہم ایسے لوگوں کو دیکھیں گے جو ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، مسوڑوں کی بیماری اور دانتوں کی خرابی دونوں نے چیلنج کیا ہے ، لیکن یہ بہت کم ہوتا ہے۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، عام طور پر لوگ یا تو گیز ، لوئس کے اس کیمپ میں ہوتے ہیں ، جب بھی میں دانتوں کے ڈاکٹر کو دیکھتا ہوں ، تم جانتے ہو ، وہ مجھے بتاتے ہیں کہ مجھے اور بہت گہا پڑ گیا ہے۔ مجھے زیادہ گہا پڑا ہے “یا وہ متوسط ​​چیلنجوں کا مقابلہ کر رہے ہیں۔ اور ، آپ جانتے ہو ، چال ہر چیز کو ختم کرنے کی نہیں ہے ، ٹھیک ہے؟ ، آپ کو معلوم ہے کہ ، کسی طرح ہم زبانی ماحول کو نس بندی کرسکتے ہیں ، مضحکہ خیز ہے نا؟ ہم جانتے ہیں کہ زیادہ تر GI صحت کے ل we ، ہم ایک بہت مددگار مائکروبیووم رکھنے کی حمایت کرنا چاہتے ہیں۔ جس کا مطلب بولوں: یہ اہم ہے۔ یہ منہ سے دوسرے سرے تک اہم ہے۔ جو بھی منہ میں ہو رہا ہے ، اگر ہم کافی بیکٹیریا کو ختم کردیں ، تو ، آپ جانتے ہو ، اب ہم نے اس کو مار ڈالا ہے ، اب ایک مذاق لڑکا ہے اور اچھا وقت گزارنا شروع کردیتے ہیں ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، اور آپ کو کینڈیڈا کا انفیکشن ہوجاتا ہے ، وہ بھی نہ صرف آپ کے منہ اور نرم بافتوں پر اثر پڑے گا ، جو ہر وقت ہم کھاتے ہیں ، ٹھیک ہے۔ ہم ڈائر بائیوسس پیدا کرسکتے ہیں جس کے ذریعے ہم پیریڈونٹ انفیکشن کو سنبھالنے کے لئے کس طرح رابطہ کرتے ہیں۔ اور ہمارے عملی عمل میں ، میرا مطلب ہے ، ہم یہ سمجھنے کے بارے میں زیادہ ہیں کہ وہاں کیا ہے اور ہم اسے کس طرح بڑی مددگار حالت میں تبدیل کرنے میں مدد کرسکتے ہیں۔ کون سا ، آپ جانتے ہیں ، اگر آپ ڈاکٹر اسٹیون لن کی “The Dental Diet” نامی کتاب حاصل کرنا چاہتے ہیں تو ، میں نے بہت سارے مریضوں کو اس کی سفارش کی ہے ، اور وہ سب اس قدر قابل ستائش ہیں کیوں کہ اس کے بارے میں بات ہوتی ہے صحت مند غذا کے ساتھ منہ سے دوسرے سرے تک اپنے آنتوں کے مائکرو بایوم کو بہتر بنانے میں مدد کریں۔ اور اس کے ساتھ ہی اس نے ایک حیرت انگیز کام کیا ہے۔ لہذا ، آپ کو معلوم ہے ، مسوڑوں سے متعلق بیماری کے طریقہ کار ہیں۔ میرا مطلب ہے ، یقینا a بہت سارے معاملات جو ہم دیکھتے ہیں ، ایسا ہی ہے ، ہاں ، ہمیں مدد کے ل to کچھ تھراپی مہیا کرنے کی ضرورت ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، چیزوں کو صحیح سمت میں منتقل کریں۔ لیکن دیکھ بھال اس بات کا متوازن ہے کہ ہم منہ میں چیزوں کا انتظام کس طرح کرتے ہیں ، ہم آنت میں چیزوں کا نظم کس طرح کرتے ہیں۔ یہ ایک پورے جسم کا نقطہ نظر ہے ، ٹھیک ہے؟ جو ہونا ضروری ہے.

کیٹی: بالکل۔ اور مجھے لگتا ہے کہ اسی جگہ کی طرف اشارہ کرتے ہوئے آپ نے ان سب چیزوں کے لئے ایک عمدہ نقطہ بنایا ہے ، اور کوئی اتنا آسان نہیں ہے ، جیسا کہ آپ جانتے ہیں ، اور جیسا کہ ہمیں اکثر بتایا جاتا ہے ، صرف فلوسنگ ، یا صرف چینی سے گریز ، یا صرف گہا بھرا ہوا ، یا جو بھی ہو ، بس ہوسکتا ہے۔ یہ صحت کے تمام پہلو ہیں۔ اس کے لئے پورے جسم ، نقطہ نظر کی ضرورت ہوتی ہے ، جیسا کہ آپ نے کہا ہے۔ اور یہی وجہ ہے کہ لگتا ہے کہ ان میں سے بہت سی سفارشات اس کے ساتھ ملتی ہیں۔ اور یقینی طور پر ، صحت کے بیشتر علاقوں کی طرح ، انہیں بھی ہر چھ ماہ بعد ڈینٹسٹ کے پاس جانے ، فلورائڈ ٹریٹمنٹ لینے اور اپنی زندگی کے ساتھ چلنے کے بجائے تھوڑا سا زیادہ کام درکار ہوتا ہے۔ زبانی صحت کی بھی بات آتی ہے تو ہمیں دراصل اپنی اپنی صحت میں ایک متحرک شریک بننا ہوتا ہے۔ ایک اور سوال جو میں قارئین اور سننے والوں سے نسبتا often کثرت سے پایا جاتا ہوں ، وہ یہ ہے کہ صرف سانس کی بو آ رہی ہے۔ وہ کیا اشارہ دے سکتا ہے اور اس سے نمٹنے کے فطری طریقے ہیں؟

ڈاکٹر کیلی: ہاں ، ہاں ، ہاں۔ لہذا ، میں تجویز کرتا ہوں کہ ، آپ کو معلوم ہوگا ، مثال کے طور پر ، یہ آپ کے حیاتیاتی دانتوں کے ڈاکٹر اور آپ دونوں کے لئے ایک سوال ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، یا تو غذائیت کے معالج ، یا آپ کے قدرتی طبیب ، یا جس کے ساتھ آپ کام کررہے ہیں وہ آپ کو بنانے میں مدد فراہم کرتا ہے ، آپ جانتے ہو ، متوازن گٹ مائکرو بایوم اور یہ سب کچھ۔ آپ جانتے ہو ، اس سوال کا ایک حصہ سمجھنا ہے ، جیسے ، کیوں ایک شخص کو بدبو آرہی ہے۔ I mean, you can find some people who have the most fastidious mouths. I mean, it’s so clean. They’re in there with the floss, and the picks, and the rinses, and everything under the sun. But let’s say that their tonsils are chronically infected and, you know, just the Crips are filled with tartar, essentially, I mean, it’s just bacterial and calcium deposits, you’ll never get rid of that smell. And so, you know, maybe we need to have the assistance of an oral surgeon or an ear, nose, and throat specialist who can assess the helpfulness of their tonsils as well. It could be bacterial. It could be, you know, maybe what about…? You know, what’s existing the need, long-term dental restorations, such as crowns and fillings. I mean, I can’t tell you with what frequency we take off old crowns, and they’re just teeming with bacteria underneath because over the past 15 years of the crown was on, you know, the cement failed, and it’s just been getting, you know, kind of putrid underneath this poor thing. You take off the crown, and the patient will say, “Oh, my gosh, that is awful, that smell.” And we say, “Well, is that kind of like the smell that, you know, you’ve been observing from your breath?”

And they’re like,” Oh my gosh, it is.” So, there’s a lot of different sources from which people could experience bad breath. And it’s also possible that somebody might be smelling their own breath but it turns out, they have like a sinus infection, which is the sinus right above your nasal space. You know, if that’s chronically infected, it would make sense that you’re gonna smell things that aren’t right. And one of the advantages of using three-dimensional Cone Beam radiographs, like we have in our practice, is that you can see those structures and we can help, you know, gear people in the right direction to other specialists that can help them in managing those things. So bad breath is a… That’s a big bag to open, I suppose you’d say, right? So it’s worthwhile to consider all possible reasons.

Katie: Got it. What about the tonsils? Because this is an area I don’t feel most people even associate with oral health at all. I do only because in researching a dentist that work with my kids on actually widening my kids palate to make room for their teeth, one of my sons had enlarged tonsils, and I did too as a kid, mine were actually removed. And I knew I didn’t wanna remove any of my kids’ tonsils. And so she brought up the idea of the tonsils and that he was mouth breathing, and that we did to address that, which was what we did. But I don’t think most people even think of the tonsils as being connected to oral health. So, talk us through how the tonsils come into play and what we can do about them if they might be a problem.

Dr. Kelly: Yeah. Well, and like you, you know, I was one of those little kids who had inflamed tonsils, and mine were removed at a young age as well. And I will say, there’s no black and white issue with this, right? At times, kind of like wisdom teeth, at times, it’s appropriate, like, if the nature of those tonsils is that they’re so chronically infected, that you can’t breathe properly, you know, you’re 40 years old, let’s say, you know, what would the health benefits be of removing them and of not removing them, right? So thoughtfully, considering that would be worthwhile. There’s a book called “Hidden Epidemic” written by Dr. Tom Levy, which would be another book I would highly recommend to your listeners. My entire team and I, we all read it together, did kind of a book club about it. And it goes over the chronic issues with root canals, cavitations. And he also covers the issue of tonsils more in the nature of, like, how these can become chronically infected for adults. When as you so appropriately pointed out, you know, like, if we don’t get widened enough palettes and airways that are big enough for us to breathe appropriately, we might be setting up all those lymphoid tissues to be chronically inflamed, right? And if they are, that makes it really challenging to, you know, breathe through your nose at night, so you’re getting good oxygen saturation throughout your blood supply. So, you know, again, if we could start with the end in mind and from, you know, pre-birth, where mom is, you know, just crushing it with optimal nutrition, ideally, their own oral health is in great state so that their child isn’t being exposed to Mercury, and fluoride, and things of this nature, you know, then we would have children who are growing up developing more optimally so that they have appropriate airways and things of that nature. We might then, you know, see fewer issues of chronically inflamed lymphoid tissues. So there’s no black and white answer, right? We just have to consider, like, what are the pros and the cons of keeping them? Obviously, again, kinda like wisdom teeth, they’re probably there for a reason. It’d be good to keep that, but how do we ensure that a person’s physiology and anatomy is designed and developed in a way that everything works properly? Does that make sense?

Katie: Absolutely. And yeah, I love that you keep bringing it back to taking this whole body more holistic approach because I think you’re right, there’s a tendency, especially when it comes to oral health, to try to simplify it to that single cause or single input. And it often is so much more multifaceted than that. And I’m guessing another area that’s also going to be true is when it comes to cavities and teeth remineralizing. And it seems like at least from an outsider doing research, that this is an area where there’s still a lot of conflicting information. And many dentists don’t even necessarily agree that teeth can remineralize or there’s an idea that once there’s a cavity, it must be filled. I’d love to touch on this because this is an area I also get a lot of questions from listeners.

Dr. Kelly: Right. Right. So this is a great, great topic. So what we know is that, you know, teeth are fed internally. Every tooth is supplied with its own little tiny, you know, arteries, and veins, and nerve supply, and lymphatics, right? They’re living tissues. And we were talking earlier about, like, the porous nature of dentin, the second layer of the tooth. When a tooth is alive and vital, all those little soft tissues are filling up those tubules. So you have real live living parts of your body extending into those millions and millions of tubules. So, we understand that certain diet types, which again, Dr. Lin goes over in his book, certain types of dietary approaches are going to be more conducive to highly mineralized teeth that have an outward flow of fluid from within the tooth moving outward, right? Matter of fact, people who are in a more parasympathetic state of being, will experience more fluid flow out of the teeth, which is what we want. When we get into more of a sympathetically driven state, the fluid flow reverses. So you can see how that might be a problem if you have exposed root structure where that dentin is not only exposed, but it’s inviting bacteria inward and bringing with it, you know, like, the acids, and sugars, and things like this from our foods. That can be problematic as well. So there’s absolutely that internal aspect of two health and remineralization we know exists. But we also wanna consider the external aspect of remineralization, right? So, when we as dental providers are looking at X-rays, I mean, again, in school, we’re kind of trained to think mechanistically, you know, we’re looking off, you know, as a black spot on the X-ray, right, time to drill and fill. You know, we don’t really sit back and say, “All right, well, how and why did that happen? What kind of environment exists for this person in their mouth on an ongoing basis, such that this insanely hard tissue, the enamel of the tooth, how on earth did that actually break down,” right?

There has to be not only a fair amount of acidic exposure but over a long period of time, right, that if you’re chronically exposed to acid, whether that’s from, you know, regurgitative issues because you snore all night long or because you like sipping on kombucha all day or, you know, Starbucks, you know, frappuccino or, you know, whatever is loaded with sugars and acids. Those things, sorry, from an external standpoint, are going to provide an environment in the mouth, that will break down your teeth. Now, it also has, you know, the effect of when you swallow that stuff and it goes down your esophagus through your stomach and into your small intestine, and you absorb what’s there, is what you’re eating helping your body to mineralize your teeth or demineralize your teeth internally, right? So, again, whole body consideration here. There’s no… I get this question all the time of like, “Well, what toothpaste should I use to help remineralize my teeth?” And my question back to them is, “Well, for how many minutes a day do you intend to have that toothpaste in your mouth?” Because nothing is going to be more powerful than the biochemistry of your own blood and your own saliva because you’re exposed to that 24/7. So, I mean, not to say that, well, there aren’t some, you know, toothpaste that are better than others, but with respect to reducing risk, what we put inside of our bodies is highly significant for all the health of all of our tissues. So, I guess I would say, like, to help remineralize teeth, I’m advising everybody, get on Amazon or wherever you wanna, go get yourself a copy of Dr. Lin’s book, “The Dental Diet,” read it. The recipes are awesome. He’s a heck of a guy. And I think people really value his perspective. He does a wonderful job of reviewing Dr. Weston Price’s research from the early part of the 20th century. It’s an amazing book.

Katie: I’m so glad you brought him up as well. He was one of my early starting points, as well. And he has pictures of the different teeth of different populations who had different diets and also people who were on a more, like, indigenous type diet and then switched to a Western diet and vice versa. And it’s really fascinating, the data. I’ll link to that book as well.

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I know a lot of people listening…Well, you’ve given so much practical information and probably made a lot of people think in ways they haven’t maybe thought before about their oral health and potentially about previous dental procedures they’ve had. I know you live in Oregon, and I’ll make sure we link to your practice in the show notes at So, anyone who is able to get to you, you’re obviously an incredible option. What about for people who aren’t anywhere geographically close to you, are there any good resources or advice that you would give for finding a good dentist who’s willing to be a partner in oral health?

Dr. Kelly: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a great question. Because I get that question probably half a dozen times a day, via Instagram and Facebook, and such, you know, people ask like, “Well, do you know somebody in…” And, you know, fill in the blank, right? And what I share with them is that, well, I first off, say, on May 27th of this year, I wrote a post on my Instagram account, and I shared the options, such as looking at the doctor search engines on IABDM website, and IoMT website, which, again, you don’t have to write all that down, just go to the post on the 27th of May. And I give some suggestions about things you might look for there. But the other thing that I point out to people is that if they feel a synergy or an energetic connection with what it is that they read that I write, there’s only one of me, you know. And if they love what I’m talking about, and how I respond personally to people that, you know, it’s kind of worth the airplane flight for this level of care. And I mean, I know a handful of other dentists around the country that, you know, I would fly to them. They’re that good and they’re that caring. And we have worked on developing different dental tourism options for people who wanna come here. Because, you know, I really wanna make it an option for anybody who would like to come to our practice to do so. But, you know, for those folks who are, like, you know, “Boy, that much travel just isn’t gonna work for me,” go to that post I put up on May 27th, look up those different groups. And then do your homework, right? As we always should. With anything health-related, do your due diligence. Maybe get three or four providers and look up their websites. Call their practices. See how their team members, you know, connect with you. And you’ll know in your gut, whether, like, “Oh, my gosh, they were so loving and so caring.” Or, you know, “That didn’t really float my boat.” And follow your gut. You know, that’s probably one of the best choices or options in considering health choices, right?

Katie: Absolutely. Yeah. And even just that shift in perception of thinking about interviewing healthcare providers on any level and finding people who are going to be good partners, I feel like there is a shift happening with amazing dentists like you and some of the amazing doctors I’ve interviewed on this podcast as well. I think we’re moving towards an amazing future where there are practitioners who are excited to work with educated patients who are willing to take ownership for their own health. And I think it’s getting easier and easier to find amazing ones like you. I’m so grateful for that. Quickly, I’d love to just talk on a couple more advanced things that I know that you do that I’m just somewhat fascinated by to begin with. So, you mentioned there are times when you do have to remove a tooth, whether it’s wisdom tooth or you’re removing an old root canal, and you wanna avoid these infections and problems that happen. I know from reading some of your posts that you use things like ozone therapy. So I’d love to hear you talk on the ways that you use innovative models like this to avoid the problems so that your patients don’t run into problems in the future, like a lot of patients do.

Dr. Kelly: Right. Yeah. Well, thank you for asking. This happens to be the topic on which I wrote my final paper when I was in the American College of Integrative Medicine and Dentistry. We all had to pick a topic on which we were passionate and I chose the subject of, you know, using technologies to be least invasive, but also to help people’s bodies shift to a healing state, as predictably as possible when we’re removing infections, whether those be, you know, infected implants, infected root canal teeth, or cavitations. So, you know, I’ve developed this synergistic protocol, whereby I’m using a combination of laser therapies, ozone therapies, and people’s own regenerative cells where we do blood draws and spin out the blood and use their mprF, which is just a concentration of their clotting factors and immune cells. And we put all that back in after having, you know, lasered out and ozonated the area, doing those steps, which takes a lot longer than just grabbing a tooth and removing it, right? It’s entirely thoughtful and leaves the person with the best state of health that an infected area of bone can so that their immune system and regenerative capacity can then kick into gear and help regenerate new healthy bone and gum tissue. And we’ve had incredible success doing that over the past few years. I can’t, you know, say enough positive things about using this lprF from people’s own blood. I mean, it makes sense, right?

If you’re using your own regenerative cells, instead of some, you know, like, bone grafting material from a cadaver or dead cow or something like that, it’s going to have a lot more… It’s gonna have vitality, period, right, whereas those other grafting things do not. And we see that, you know, the issues such as post-surgical complications, post-surgical infections, we just simply don’t see those issues for people, which really kind of makes sense, right? When you fill-up that hole that’s been cleaned out as effectively and safely as possible, of course, their own cells are gonna wanna heal. So that’s been an awesome protocol, particularly when we’re doing cavitation surgeries, where oftentimes, you know, those voids in the bone can be fairly large, being able to put all their own healing cells back into that space and closing it up. It just sets them up in an optimum state for healing. So, we’ve been really excited and grateful to have these wonderful technologies to use. So that’s been fun.

Katie: That’s so fascinating and so exciting that there’s… I feel like this is an area where I keep kind of track of the research and there’s so much exciting things going on. And I feel like we’re just finding out more and more almost every single day. And again, there’s people like you who are willing to not just help patients one-on-one, but also to share this research, and share clinical experience, and educate. And I think things like that are gonna make such a big difference for patient outcomes long-term. And I’m so grateful there are people like you who are willing to do that. Like I said, already, I’ll make sure that your social media is linked in the show notes at so people can find you. I follow you on Instagram and you have fascinating posts about all various aspects of oral health. So, I definitely recommend that. I also know that you are a busy practicing dentist, and want to respect your time and your patients. But as we wrap up our time, do you have any other book recommendations? You’ve mentioned several. I’ve been taking notes as you spoke, but I wonder if there’s any other books that don’t necessarily even have to be related to dentistry, but could, that have had a dramatic impact on your life? And if so, what they are?

Dr. Kelly: Oh, yeah, absolutely. So, one book I share with people that I mean, it literally changed my life was a book called “More Than a Carpenter” by Josh McDowell. And in my personal life journey, I mean, I was on my way to going through a Master’s program in counseling. Both my wife and I were. We were about to head off to this counseling program. And, you know, I read “More Than a Carpenter” and it brought me to come to know Jesus Christ, and it just changed my life. And the next thing I know I’m being just energetically shifted and called to this life of being a dentist, and I felt that my calling is to change what people have come to expect from dentistry, such that they would come to experience it as a, you know, highly positive and health-promoting experience, not something that they feared. So since, you know, spring of 1993, I’ve been putting one foot forward in front of another and going down that track, thanks to that book. And I will share one other book that really shifted the style of my practice that’s called “Whole Body Dentistry” by Dr. Mark Breiner. I got into that book about six years ago. And Dr. Breiner does a phenomenal job of documenting and sharing his experience as a dentist who graduated in the 1970s to how he became, like, a Mercury aware and a Mercury-free dentist, and all these other issues of the toxicity of root canals and all that. So I mean, there are people who’ve been doing this much longer than I have, who have been phenomenal pioneers ahead of me.

And for anybody who really wants to dig deep, along with Dr. Steven Lin’s book, I would so recommend for laypeople to pick up “Whole Body Dentistry.” It’s a book you could read and then share with your friends. It’s so good, and does a wonderful job of documenting the changes, and at least what I hope that we can bring to more commonplace in my lifetime in dentistry, through thinking more biologically in terms of what we do. So that’s those two are awesome books. And I think, you know… Thank you for asking that. It’s always good to share books that people are passionate about.

Katie: Absolutely. I’m always looking for new reading suggestions. I love all the ones you mentioned today, and I’ll make sure those are linked. If you guys are listening today, while you’re driving or exercising, please make sure to check out the show notes at, and find all these resources that Dr. Kelly’s mentioned there, some really amazing ones there. And also, like I said, I’ll put links where you can find Dr. Kelly directly if you have an acute problem, especially in an area, you can get to him. Like I said, this is such a fun area of research for me. And it makes me so excited when I find people like you who are, like, working to educate and also providing practical solutions for patients. With that said, I’d promised I will respect your time. I’m gonna let you get back to your patients. But Dr. Kelly, thank you so much for being here and for all that you do.

Dr. Kelly: Well, thank you, Katie. Thank you for everything that you’re doing to, you know, bring so many people into this fold of awareness and ownership. You shared a term earlier about, you know, people taking ownership over their health. And I feel like, you know, that’s what we’re about here in my practice. That’s what I know you’re about and I love the resonance between our vision here. It’s just great. And I’m so thankful and grateful that we were able to connect today. Thank you so much.

Katie: I’m grateful too, and grateful to all of you for listening, for sharing your most valuable resource, your time, with both of us today. We’re so grateful that you did. And I hope that you’ll join me again on the next episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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